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No it isn't, it's been done for millennia before Dieter. Again, Feudalism. This is part of the system. Freaking Sigmar was already up to this shit back in the day. 'Skip your immediate superior and go to the Emperor' is one of the big selling points of having an Emperor for most nobles.

"Feudalism is an inherently corrupt system, therefore we should be corrupt" is a stupid fucking argument, especially when we come from an organisation established to fight corruption.
 
[X] Imperial Dispensation
[X] College Dispensation

Changing my vote. While I'm still alright with Imperial Dispensation, I think it would be best for my ambition of Mathilde as a Matriarch, normal or Supreme, to work with the Colleges. Plus Dragomas is cool too.
 
No idea about DL, but in canon it's because Thungni and Smeidnir and so on beign the children of Valaya and Grungi's kids is exclusive to 1e WFRP AFAIK. So it's a bit of canon clash.
The book Grudgelore also talks about the other Ancestor Gods and them being the children of the main three.

(The main difference Grudgelore has to 1st edition Stone and Steel is that it only says Valaya is married to Grungni, rather than both Grungni and Grimnir)
 
Also, this does raise a question. Snorri is Thungni and Smeidnir's brother, and yet he is not highly revered as an Ancestor God to the likes of them. Why is that?

He stayed with the Karaz Ankor to lead it as High King when the Ancestor Gods departed.

All of this is information we already knew, with perhaps one acception. This "Library of Caledor" which was destroyed during the Sundering. It's not exactly ringing any bells for me. I do know that Caledor was seriously ravaged by the Sundering though.

It was the library of Caledor Dragontamer, located in Anlec, rather than the library of the Kingdom of Caledor.

I suppose Gate of Cosmic Order is referencing Rta? Hinduism has lots of interesting concepts, but I haven't had the time to delve super deeply into them. There's way too much material to consume in any sort of reasonable time frame.

It's a creative translation of the dharmachakra.

I suppose Middenheim isn't a primary nexus of the Imperial network? It would be the only major city (Nuln, Altdorf, Talabheim, Middenheim) of the Empire not to be one if that was the case.

It could be one that's cut off from the rest of the network by fallen nexuses, such as if it connected to Talabheim through the nexus the Hedgewise lost, or to Altdorf through somewhere in the Drakwald.

Also, why Gisoreux to Parravon? Montfort is just skipped?

Brevity. Gisoreux-Montfort-Parravon is practically the same line as Gisoreux-Parravon.

The bolded bit has rather gone over my head, I'm afraid. What was being communicated here?

The Hedgewise are the leading experts on laws about Waystones laid down by Sigmar, he was confirming that yes, the big man himself said "don't touch the waystone gold, idiot".
 
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Would confirming with Cython about whatever the Araby network connect directly to Ulthuan and is similar to the old world be considered be a free action behind screen or something else?

Seems minor to be a full AP and I don't know if you would locked that behind a social vote. It could be relevant information in regard to trying to pull an Araby researcher in the future.
 
I don't care how we get it but we need permission if we're gonna continue. Stopping isn't really an option for us, if we were that frightened of studying dhar we wouldn't have read the liber mortis

[x] College Dispensation
[x] Imperial Dispensation
[x] Cult Dispensation
 
I've always found the fact that Ulthuan is floating very strange. If it floats thanks to the Vortex, how did it float before it?

It only needs external life support to stay afloat after the Sundering, which occurred post-Vortex.

@Boney
Would confirming with Cython about whatever the Araby network connect directly to Ulthuan and is similar to the old world be considered be a free action behind screen or something else?

Seems minor to be a full AP and I don't know if you would locked that behind a social vote. It could be relevant information in regard to trying to pull an Araby researcher in the future.

If it becomes relevant to something like that, Mathilde will automatically check it out.
 
I've always found the fact that Ulthuan is floating very strange. If it floats thanks to the Vortex, how did it float before it?
Personally, I don't think it was floating before the Sundering (when Malekith tried to destabilize the Vortex and destroy Ulthuan, and partially succeeded)

Afterwards, Ulthuan needs the Vortex or it will crumble and sink.

Weber'd by Boney.
 
I've always found the fact that Ulthuan is floating very strange. If it floats thanks to the Vortex, how did it float before it?
Supposedly, Ulthuan was fashioned from Draugnir's corpse by Asuryan after he was drained from making the Sword of Khaine and being hunted down by Anath Raema, which would be after the polar gate collapse. I can't attest to the veracity of this claim considering it's a myth, but Deathfang does mention gods literally walking around that time, so I can't imagine a floating island being beyond their ability.
 
It's not Dragomas that we have to worry about here, it's everyone else who might side-eye how we're already close to the Empress and now we're going directly to him. It's a bad look we'd get from the rest of the Colleges.
The rest of the colleges won't be informed until we have results as well as the imperial decree to defend ourselves with. Even if they care they won't have a place to stand at that time. If we tell them now, with no results and no emperor in our corner, that's when we're vulnerable to them.
"Feudalism is an inherently corrupt system, therefore we should be corrupt" is a stupid fucking argument, especially when we come from an organisation established to fight corruption.
The Grey College doesn't fight all corruption. If it did, that'd hurt the Empire because feudalism is inherently corrupt and nepotistic and the Empire is feudal. The Grey College protects the Empire, whether that be by fighting corruption or by using it.
 
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[x] Imperial Dispensation

Two reasons.

First, I expect that other organizations have information networks including the colleges. So doing this through the normal channels is something I'd expect to filter through to chaos cults and the high elves.

Second, to demonstrate our authority to the rest of the participants.

"Oh, there's a problem with the articles? No matter, here's a signed declaration from the emperor personally to me that we are good to proceed. Any other questions?"

This sets Mathilde up as the authority on this project, not the patriarchs, and I believe this will smooth out way later.
 
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"Feudalism is an inherently corrupt system, therefore we should be corrupt" is a stupid fucking argument, especially when we come from an organisation established to fight corruption.
Our organisation was established to protect the Empire against subtle enemies, especially those using magic. And it was created in the context of a feudal society, to maintain that society, not fight against it. So making use of said feudal system for our ends is perfectly fine. From our POV feudalism is corrupt, but not from the Grey College´s.

Supposedly, Ulthuan was fashioned from Draugnir's corpse by Asuryan after he was drained from making the Sword of Khaine and being hunted down by Anath Raema, which would be after the polar gate collapse. I can't attest to the veracity of this claim considering it's a myth, but Deathfang does mention gods literally walking around that time, so I can't imagine a floating island being beyond their ability.
I've always thought it was the OO who made Ulthuan and put the elves on it, like they rearranged most of the world.
 
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Why would that make him less respected/regarded? That seems like it would get more regard.

Whatever made the Ancestor Gods the Ancestor Gods, he turned it down to stay with the Karaz Ankor. Also things are a bit murky since on his deathbed he swore an oath to his BFF, a little-known Elvish fellow by the name of Malekith, that if the Karaz Ankor was ever, like, seriously super betrayed by someone it super trusted, like, say, you, my super BFF Malekith, I'll come back and murder enemies of Dwarves forever with my magical axe. And now there's this guy wandering around the place murdering enemies of Dwarves forever with a magical axe, so... yeah.
 
I've always thought it was the OO who made Ulthuan and put the elves on it, like they rearranged most of the world.
It's never actually stated that the Old Ones made Ulthuan. In Quest, the Elves were assigned to a city named "Qt" and watched over by Draugnir. I'd guess Qt stands for the Ancient City of Quintex in Naggaroth, and that was the Elves' original home before they moved to Ulthuan at some point.
 
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