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But it's not like the leadership of the country really changed. It's still the same ancient royal family
no, it isnt. Our dad, Great Leader Wei, was a revolutionary who deposed the monarchy and then ran the place into the ground. the QM was pretty clear about this? don't know how you missed it
 
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are we apart of some ancient royal dynasty and I missed that?
No, your dad pretty much executed the Last Queen of Guangchou with a 12 gauge point-blank through the back of her neck at the end of his communist revolution.

He did say this:
"The only difference between a noble and a successful bandit king is three generations."
As a way of saying: "Survive, get a kid, and our family is golden and set for a new dynasty."

Mainly because communists don't seem to like the rule of the people very much.
 
...What is the equipment situation of our army? Asking because I want to try nd write a threat assessment 'omake' on our forces from the perspective of the US-NATO. And I don't really know what their situation is. Especially since we haven't really bought or made anything new for our forces yet.
 
Guangchou Threat Assesment
Guangchou Threat Assesment

Guangchou is a poor country with a long history of beating up any who dares try to invade their island, with WW2 japan notably giving up on any invasion and trying to bomb them to oblivion. Which. As we know didn't work. Normally, they likely wouldn't merit much attention if it weren't for how ever since Wei Cai died, they simply stopped trying any sort of sabre rattling, and hadn't meaningfully improved the military ever since, as far as we know. It is this anomaly that makes the nation so curious and so dangerous, because there is no way for us to gage whatever capabilities that give them the comfort to not try and intimidate everyone and anyone they can. Of which, the only notable case was the massive trials over the steel plant sabotage, where they paraded a MASSIVE amount of evidence on those arrested, with a likely significant part being real by virtue of how impractical forging so much in a short time-frame would have been.

Their people have a long history of kicking out invaders, and there is likely defenses and bomb shelters dating back to WW2, though it is unknown how well maintained they are. Their equipment are not much to write about based on what we found, with aircraft and tanks mostly being WW2 surplus, and their infantry also aren't notably equipped. Their training is hard to tell, but it is likely better than one may expect considering how the forces don't seem to flaunt their capabilities. Of course the hardest part is finding what is almost certainly been either finished, or being worked on in a level of secrecy that is so unlike what other communist nation's do. While others certainly hide how theirs are made, they will certainly make sure everyone know it exists for intimidation purposes. The big question though is of course what that something, or multiple somethings are they hiding for when someone else tries to have a go at the little island?

Well, there isn' any way to actually be sure about it, since whatever they have, they have really good opsec, which they use to make sure we have no idea what their ace in the hole is. Something I suspect even China may be unaware of, considering the only reason china hadn't outright replaced the leadership with puppets was because of the headache.

Though considering what little we know, they probably have worked out some AA measures, considering the devastation brought by aircraft in the last major conflict. Possibly using some previously unknown guidance system? Anti-tank weapons and all-terrain vehicles might also be part of whatever projects they are doing away from prying eyes, stuff that would allow them to fight really well on their home turf, which may very well be enough to repulse a very determined attacker given the level of confidence they seem to show.

A/N: Well, how does this work as an omake? didn't have much to work with. Though with the flag vote, we may soon be able to do polandball style comics set in this verse.
 
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Negaverse - AMERICA AD ASTARTE: An American Cold War Quest! Researching Mechs
So, our last post wasn't everything @Cyberphilosipher and I talked about for the negaverse thread. We actually had too many ideas to just fit into one post, so please enjoy part 2 of the american negaverse quest.

AMERICA AD ASTARTE: An American Cold War Quest! Researching Mechs

QM:

1974 SUMMER Research Policies:


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Dealing with insubordinate blackbird pilots (Guangchou crisis):

[] dishonorable discharge; You don't have room for 'flying spies' who are loose cannons
[] Discretely 'dispose' of the Blackbird pilots; The CIA cautions that this knowledge must not escape, by any means necessary
[] nothing; leave minor reprimands and punishments to their commanding officer, but don't take any direct actions yourself against the blackbird Pilots


Surveyor (mech) program:

[] Start a Surveyor (mech) program (Opens up 1 Research slot next year for Mech Development free. Pursuing more than 1 research option requires taking on either an economy debuff or civil order debuff for your rolls)
[] secret research program; attempt to keep the program secret. Will need to roll counter intelligence for this program, but enemies will be unable to 'copy' any traits in your design for a decade, unless you critically fail counter intelligence rolls
[] Infiltration; The CIA assures you they have a new infiltration program (FUR-RIE) which is specialized for east asian operations.
[] Diplomacy; Demand the mechs during negotiation; will lead to Chinese and Sovit Union learning about your program
[] Japanese Help; Your Japanese cultural expert assures you that the japanese already have a theoretical program to explore the viability of mechas. This 'MAZINGER' program is a super secret project, and the Japanese have already invested in counter-intelligence efforts for this program
[] German Help: Ask The Germans and Brandt for aid from the West german industry. A high roll will allow any american design to adopt the 'well engineered' trait from west german technology traits
[] Korean Help: Demand Korean Help. Due to the situation, you can demand help from Korea for free. Get cheap make (costs less money but less durable) for any american design if using korean help
[] French Help: Ask French for aid from French engineers. Bonus to Aesthetics and marketing. bonuses will not apply unless program is made public. Will require either high roll, or diplomatic or military favors for French to buy into the project
[] English Help: Ask English for aid from english engineers. Bonus to CounterIntelligence rolls, and high design rolls will allow American design to adopt the 'resistant to cold weather' trait from english technological traits. Will require either high roll, or diplomatic or military favors for english to buy into the project


If America will be starting its own Surveyor program, it will take time before resources can be fully allocated. Mecha research will begin properly next year (1 die, only +10 research bonus). However, you can focus limited resources on 1 research area this year to get a head start in said area. What do you believe is the priority for mecha research:
[] - Control Interface: A mecha will require a completely new way to interface with controls. Will the mecha use a joystick, or will it act like a gigantic armored suit? write in the exact control schema for extra bonuses
[] - Stability Gyro: An Upright mechanized vehicle is incredibly unstable. The first priority must be making sure pilots don't just fall over
[] - Powered Limbs: The wheel was one of the first advancements of human civilization, and now you're trying to replace it. Obviously, you must spend time to ensure that you mode of locomotion will be an improvement over traditional weapon platforms, like tanks and trucks


Andrew Jackson
[X] Start a Surveyor (mech) program
[X] secret research program; attempt to keep the program secret.
[X] Hire the cowboy pilots as our first Mech operators

Guys, Are we really going to let our texan cowboys down?
I don't care this is a write-in, No way we aren't rewarding these damn pilots for a job well done.

Also, what are these options for mech research

[X] - BIG ASS CANON; Figure out how to mount large weapons and handle recoil

Davy Crockett
[X] Start a Surveyor (mech) program
[X] secret research program; attempt to keep the program secret.
[X] Hire the cowboy pilots as our first Mech operators
[X] - BIG ASS CANON; Figure out how to mount large weapons and handle recoil

Guys, we know Germany is super good with weapons. And the japanese are just obvious. We need to get their help. We can count on our CoIntel rolls without english help though.
[X] Japanese Help; Your Japanese cultural expert assures you that the japanese already have a theoretical program to explore the viability of mechas. This 'MAZINGER' program is a super secret project, and the Japanese have already invested in counter-intelligence efforts for this program
[X] German Help: Ask The Germans and Brandt for aid from the West german industry. A high roll will allow any american design to adopt the 'well engineered' trait from west german technology traits

Guys, we know those island guys were acting suspicious. This is their secret weapon. We need to outdo them at their own game!

QM:
I don't even.... They almost crashed a SR-71... Do you even care about that.

Neil Armstrong

[X] Start a Surveyor (mech) program
[X] secret research program; attempt to keep the program secret.
[X] Japanese Help; Your Japanese cultural expert assures you that the japanese already have a theoretical program to explore the viability of mechas. This 'MAZINGER' program is a super secret project, and the Japanese have already invested in counter-intelligence efforts for this program
[X] German Help: Ask The Germans and Brandt for aid from the West german industry. A high roll will allow any american design to adopt the 'well engineered' trait from west german technology traits
[X] Hire the cowboy pilots as our first Mech operators

Guys, every mech needs to go to space. And we are going to return to the moon, to build the space base, and when we do, we will need some sort of defense. Mechs would be perfect
[X] TO THE STARS; Movement and locomotion in low-gravity and vacuum environments must be a priority

Tim Curry:

We need to go to the one place that hasn't been corrupted by Communism. SPAAAACE!
[X] Start a Surveyor (mech) program
[X] secret research program; attempt to keep the program secret.
[X] Hire the cowboy pilots as our first Mech operators
[X] TO THE STARS; Movement and locomotion in low-gravity and vacuum environments must be a priority

Gene Roddenberry:

[X] nothing; leave minor reprimands and punishments to their commanding officer, but don't take any direct actions yourself against the blackbird Pilots

Guys, maybe we could not make machines of war, or at least use this to bolster our diplomacy rolls. I'm sure the japanese and the germans could help, and we could rebuild some of the bridges we burned
[X] - Control Interface: A mecha will require a completely new way to interface with controls. Will the mecha use a joystick, or will it act like a gigantic armored suit? Use a multiple joystick controls
[X] Start a Surveyor (mech) program
[X] secret research program; attempt to keep the program secret.
[X] Japanese Help; Your Japanese cultural expert assures you that the japanese already have a theoretical program to explore the viability of mechas. This 'MAZINGER' program is a super secret project, and the Japanese have already invested in counter-intelligence efforts for this program
[X] German Help: Ask The Germans and Brandt for aid from the West german industry. A high roll will allow any american design to adopt the 'well engineered' trait from west german technology traits

Alan Turin:
[X] Start a Surveyor (mech) program
[X] secret research program; attempt to keep the program secret.
[X] nothing; leave minor reprimands and punishments to their commanding officer, but don't take any direct actions yourself against the blackbird Pilots
[X] Japanese Help; Your Japanese cultural expert assures you that the japanese already have a theoretical program to explore the viability of mechas. This 'MAZINGER' program is a super secret project, and the Japanese have already invested in counter-intelligence efforts for this program
[X] German Help: Ask The Germans and Brandt for aid from the West german industry. A high roll will allow any american design to adopt the 'well engineered' trait from west german technology traits

Also, perhaps we should focus on communication? Mechs are just big infantry, so good communication means we should be able to leverage some of our awesome squad tactic bonuses
We could perhaps use ARPANET? and the mechs share targeting data?
[X] Apply Arpanet Research to our targeting system; Research a way for mechs share targeting data. If one mech gets a bead on the enemy, all the mechs on the field should have the capability of targeting it


Ben Franklin:
Mazinger? Isn't that a-
QM, did the japanese broadcast all the details about their mech program as an anime?!?!

Anyways, I think we should be focusing on stability
[X] Start a Surveyor (mech) program
[X] secret research program; attempt to keep the program secret.
[X] nothing; leave minor reprimands and punishments to their commanding officer, but don't take any direct actions yourself against the blackbird Pilots
[X] German Help: Ask The Germans and Brandt for aid from the West german industry. A high roll will allow any american design to adopt the 'well engineered' trait from west german technology traits
[X] - Stability Gyro: An Upright mechanized vehicle is incredibly unstable. The first priority must be making sure pilots don't just fall over

QM:
tell me, how much did you invest into that the manhattan project, and how did those counterintel rolls turn out

also, do not push me on these bullshit research options. I'm not just going to give you research bigger guns, and then allow you to apply that knowledge to tanks and artillery.

ANY MECHA RESEARCH WILL ONLY APPLY TO MECHS!


Benedict Arnold:

Hey guys, didn't we start a whole cointel thing with west germany last year, the whole guillarme affair? You know, one of the secretaries for the Chancellor is actually a spy? How are we going to get around that?

Listen, we should just rely on japan. Anime waifu's for the win
[X] Start a Surveyor (mech) program
[X] secret research program; attempt to keep the program secret.
[X] Infiltration; The CIA assures you they have a new infiltration program (FUR-RIE) which is specialized for east asian operations.
[X] Japanese Help; Your Japanese cultural expert assures you that the japanese already have a theoretical program to explore the viability of mechas. This 'MAZINGER' program is a super secret project, and the Japanese have already invested in counter-intelligence efforts for this program
[X] Hire the cowboy pilots as our first Mech operators

Ben Franklin:
Oh shit. QM, you gotta let us change our votes

QM:
NOPE. I told you guys it was on you to keep track of all your counter-intelligence efforts. You guys bought like 20 different actions all over the world last turn. You shouldn't do that unless you can actually keep track of everything. Since getting german support was so unanimous, I'm going to roll for it now.

D100 => 30

Yeah, the east german spy totally caught a glimpse of the mech blueprints, and have passed some of the data back to their handlers. You can't be sure what the effects of that will be.

edit: Also, Alan turin, How does that even work? ARPANET has nothing to do with mechs. Do you have cables linked up between your mechs? I don't even understand the crazy ideas you guys want me to implement.

Elvis Presley:
Oh thank god. not sure of what the effects will be means we've got some time until QM decides to let the east germans know the mecha are real, isntead of fake. We need to use the power of anime here to hurry our research guys!
[X] Start a Surveyor (mech) program
[X] secret research program; attempt to keep the program secret.
[X] nothing; leave minor reprimands and punishments to their commanding officer, but don't take any direct actions yourself against the blackbird Pilots
[X] Japanese Help; Your Japanese cultural expert assures you that the japanese already have a theoretical program to explore the viability of mechas. This 'MAZINGER' program is a super secret project, and the Japanese have already invested in counter-intelligence efforts for this program

[X] Apply Arpanet Research to our targeting system; OUR PILOTS WILL BE ABLE TO WATCH AND DRAW INSPIRATION FROM ANIME ALL DAY!

Ben Franklin:
I am changing my vote. We need to rely on the anime waifus
[X] Start a Surveyor (mech) program
[X] secret research program; attempt to keep the program secret.
[X] nothing; leave minor reprimands and punishments to their commanding officer, but don't take any direct actions yourself against the blackbird Pilots
[X] Japanese Help; Your Japanese cultural expert assures you that the japanese already have a theoretical program to explore the viability of mechas. This 'MAZINGER' program is a super secret project, and the Japanese have already invested in counter-intelligence efforts for this program
[X] Apply Arpanet Research to our targeting system; OUR PILOTS WILL BE ABLE TO WATCH AND DRAW INSPIRATION FROM ANIME ALL DAY!

FDR:
Gotta agree. We need to use the power of anime.
[X] Start a Surveyor (mech) program
[X] secret research program; attempt to keep the program secret.
[X] nothing; leave minor reprimands and punishments to their commanding officer, but don't take any direct actions yourself against the blackbird Pilots
[X] Japanese Help; Your Japanese cultural expert assures you that the japanese already have a theoretical program to explore the viability of mechas. This 'MAZINGER' program is a super secret project, and the Japanese have already invested in counter-intelligence efforts for this program
[X] Apply Arpanet Research to our targeting system; OUR PILOTS WILL BE ABLE TO WATCH AND DRAW INSPIRATION FROM ANIME ALL DAY!


QM:
What the hell guys? Seriously, you won't be able to fight if you need a wired connection;

fuck it, I'll figure out what the hell to do here later. Just, if you want really want ARPANET ... roll for expanding ARPANET into something wireless, and able to transmit targeting data. You need an extremely high roll to succeed

I don't even understand the crazy ideas you guys want me to implement.

memelizard:
Guys, I'm going to roll for it!
Project Expand: D100 => 95 +10 = 105 #ARPANET Expansion
Crit: D100 => 83 + 5 = 88
Total: 188

Uhh, QM? My Dice just made a thing.

Elvis Presley:
THE POWER OF ANIME PREVAILS! OUR PILOTS ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO STREAM GUNDAM ALL DAY LONG BOYS!
NICE JOB MEMELIZARD!

QM:
You have got to be kidding me....
fine, all your mechs can wirelessly communicate and target any enemy sighted as long as they are within 1 mile of each other. This system is special to mechs, and you'll need to perform more research to get it to work in other areas

Also, if you are so hellbent on anime I will allow you're pilots to now pirate gundam while within their mechs

MemeLizard:
THE POWER OF ANIME PREVAILS! OUR PILOTS ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO STREAM GUNDAM ALL DAY LONG BOYS!

Ben Franklin:
Guys, ARPANET was basically the prot-internet. It was used for research. We need to research this to expand it beyond mechs. REMEMBER THE GOALPOST REWARDS! INTERNET IS +70 Research rolls

Teddy Roosevelt:
THE POWER OF ANIME PREVAILS! OUR PILOTS ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO STREAM GUNDAM ALL DAY LONG BOYS!

Davy Crockett:
THE POWER OF ANIME PREVAILS! OUR PILOTS ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO STREAM GUNDAM ALL DAY LONG BOYS!

QM:
Do any of you even realize you just invented the internet?

Gene Rodennberry:
Guys, if we properly research the internet, we could have ALL THE ANIME!

Andrew Jackson:
THE POWER OF ANIME PREVAILS! OUR PILOTS ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO STREAM GUNDAM ALL DAY LONG BOYS!

Alan Turin:
THE POWER OF ANIME PREVAILS! OUR PILOTS ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO STREAM GUNDAM ALL DAY LONG BOYS!

George Lucas:
THE POWER OF ANIME PREVAILS! OUR PILOTS ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO STREAM GUNDAM ALL DAY LONG BOYS!

Ben Franklin:
Gene, I don't think they can here us. I think this is going to be another meme flood. I don't think some of these guys have even voted yet.

Babe Ruth:
THE POWER OF ANIME PREVAILS! OUR PILOTS ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO STREAM GUNDAM ALL DAY LONG BOYS!

Marilyn Monroe:
THE POWER OF ANIME PREVAILS! OUR PILOTS ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO STREAM GUNDAM ALL DAY LONG BOYS!

John Adams:
THE POWER OF ANIME PREVAILS! OUR PILOTS ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO STREAM GUNDAM ALL DAY LONG BOYS!

QM:
Fine, you guys get some traits for this ridiculousness:
Gain National Spirit: The World Wide What?: As the Inventor of the Global World Wide Web, you carry Great international Prestige and ability to shape global opinion on a mass scale. (Gain a Permanent +5 to Electronic Intelligence, Diplomacy, Research and Education Rolls Permanently. Will Evolve into the Global Digital Age with enough Time and Effort.)

Trait: ARPANET Evolves into the INTERNET!

mecha pilots gain trait: BELIEVE IN THE ME THAT BELIEVES IN YOU: Pilots are inspired by anime. This can lead them to try and perform unrealistic feats, but sometimes they will succeed beyond your wildest expectations; (-20 on non-crit mecha rolls, +50 on crit mecha rolls)

QM:
Now can we get back to the voting!

King George III:
THE POWER OF ANIME PREVAILS! OUR PILOTS ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO STREAM GUNDAM ALL DAY LONG BOYS!




AN: Tag with Negaverse Tags to Me or @Cyberphilosipher. Enjoy and bask in the power of Anime! I mean, American Power!
 
[X] Sheer. Fucking. Hubris.


Red Earth and Red Moon upon a black background of space - communicating our ambitions to the whole world! ("Well, at least they dream big." - Richard M. Helms, Director of the CIA)
And when we start to have permanent offworld colonies, we can start adding little white stars around either Earth or the Moon. :D
Also, there were quite a few Anarchists in our Progressive faction, and they managed to win everyone else over on adding a little black to the flag - as a treat.

edit: Or, if you're feeling a bit more anime, you can add gold stars to the Moon/Earth for the Dragon Ball Z vibe.

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[X] DemFed Isekai


This one's based on the flag I proposed for the Democratic Federation from 'For the Tyrants Fear Your Might' (Basically socialist North America).
 
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[X] DemFed Isekai

I like this @CyberEnby

I feel like you got both the looking forward option and the looking back one. I prefer emphasize our history as a defensive nut peaceful nation with the turtle symbolism, and I think the color scheme really sells our communist ideals. It contains almost everything I want on our flag.

I do like the hubris flag, but I think we might end up more obssessed with mechs than spaceships (alhtough we should do both). Space is just so hard to do from turn to turn. Otherwise, that flag is also kind of perfect
 
One thing that is kind of amusing. By complete accident, we managed to become one of the scariest communist nations in the world, only rivaled by the actual big players that are Russia and china. Simply by having our military investments be exclusively for our one black project!:lol::rofl:
 
One thing that is kind of amusing. By complete accident, we managed to become one of the scariest communist nations in the world, only rivaled by the actual big players that are Russia and china. Simply by having our military investments be exclusively for our one black project!:lol::rofl:

CAPITALISTS HATE HIM!
This Small Asian Communist Nation Became A Major Player in Just 3 Years!
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