Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

Juugo · Oct 22, 2021

yrsillar said:
Xio Fen

yrsillar said:
gan Guangli

yrsillar said:
More surprisingly,it was

yrsillar said:
"Ugh, fine,

Mind you, I am not quite sure if you intended there to use a comma or not.

yrsillar said:
she noticed Ling Qi."Done

yrsillar said:
to do it,"

yrsillar said:
methods,"

This is going to be an interesting discussion. Su Ling seems to dissatisfied with her bodies development, while ironically her friend achieved her longtime body surgery goal. wihto ut further information I would suggest for her to kep at her current path. There must be a good reason why surgery on spirit blooded is generally stamped out and I can't imagine the result being pleasant for anyone.

Vicont · Oct 22, 2021

[] Su Ling was doing well already, she had already turned her blood to her own purposes. Why waste something you had already stolen? Wasn't it a better revenge to use your enemy's tools against them?

I sincerely believe that this is our and Ling Qi's opinion. Also Su Ling knows that it is opinion and not order.

Does empty [ and ] counts or it would be [ and x and ] in some hours?
Also, errors maybe:

yrsillar said:
Xiao fen's hand snapped out, shattering the hammer mid spin into motes of green qi.

Fen

yrsillar said:
She knew the girl appreciated it, even if she pretended not too.

not to? Is it americanism too say too and not to say to?

yrsillar said:
this time gan Guangli would be allowed to attend.

Gan Guangli

promethus · Oct 22, 2021

XiaoYueMao said:
it was stated in the story right at the end that while removing spirit blood is possible, its very very risky and can seriously harm your cultivation base (or was implied atleast). this isnt a case of "well you would only choose the first option for power" ... the second option can seriously hurt her short and long term (It would probably be a dice roll with low odds). and even then, it STILL doesn't solve her underlying trauma, it wont make her happy at all, she just thinks it will due to a severe disdain of her mother

it is controversial due to social opinions . self surgery and cutting out parts is standard imperial cultivation .

Yun · Oct 22, 2021

[] Su Ling was doing well already, she had already turned her blood to her own purposes. Why waste something you had already stolen? Wasn't it a better revenge to use your enemy's tools against them?

Because while Su Ling will be the one who ultimately makes the decision here, and this has Ling Qi bring up an important point as this matter related to SL's long-term life goals. Since I imagine even ignoring any risk of cultivation potential damage from such surgery those traits are liable to prove useful locating her mother where other cultivators have failed.

XiaoYueMao · Oct 22, 2021

promethus said:
it is controversial due to social opinions . self surgery and cutting out parts is standard imperial cultivation .

ah, but we dont know that. the empire may have a certain cultivation method, but

1. this isnt cultivation
2. it was stated in a previous chapter that the empire was actually very open with its information and libraries (hence why Sun Shao was even allowed to integrate barbarian arts anyway). and it was only VERY recently that they started burning books.

if it was something people didnt actually want to research it was likely due to it having severe consequences (interestingly, thats actually the same reason barbarian cultivation isnt well researched, it has extreme consequences)

Vanguard_D · Oct 22, 2021

promethus said:
it is controversial due to social opinions . self surgery and cutting out parts is standard imperial cultivation .

In this case self surgery and cutting out parts in Standard imperial cultivation is more like training and dieting.

Su Ling is more like turning a knife on herself and cutting.

If this is a thing that the anti spiritblood Empire think is bad, then you should probably think again.

Valmond · Oct 22, 2021

Spirit surgery, spirit blooded or not, might be controversial for the same reason Hanyi being half human bound spirit is controversial.
There's a lot of room for, misuse, there.

Lena27 · Oct 22, 2021

Is the outcome we vote for actually gonna be whats gonna happen? Because I feel kinda uncomfortable with us making a life decision for someone who isn't us. Ling qi is our character, not Su Ling. We shouldn't be making this choice...

Vanguard_D · Oct 22, 2021

Lena27 said:
Is the outcome we vote for actually gonna be whats gonna happen? Because I feel kinda uncomfortable with us making a life decision for someone who isn't us. Ling qi is our character, not Su Ling. We shouldn't be making this choice...

We are giving her an advice. What she decides from the advice we and Suyin and Qingling gives her depends on herself.

XiaoYueMao · Oct 22, 2021

Vanguard_D said:
In this case self surgery and cutting out parts in Standard imperial cultivation is more like training and dieting.

Su Ling is more like turning a knife on herself and cutting.

which ironically the latter is closer to barbarian self mutilation cultivation. again, not that what Su Ling wants to do is even cultivation.

the best solution here is to address her trauma first and if she still wants to do this, then go ahead. the problem with making trauma based decisions like this is: what if she removes her spirit blood and realizes that shes NOT happy with it, that she LIKED her differences and simply hated her mom???? you CANNOT reverse this process. and shouldn't be decided on from a purely trauma response. we SHOULD help her through her trauma BEFORE helping her rush such a huge life changing decision

XiaoYueMao · Oct 22, 2021

Valmond said:
Spirit surgery, spirit blooded or not, might be controversial for the same reason Hanyi being half human bound spirit is controversial.
There's a lot of room for, misuse, there.

Hanyi isnt actually half human. its been stated multiple times that she was left in Zeqings womb for so long that she died, shes the spirit of a corpse, shes full spirit, shes simply humanlike due to being a spirit of a dead human.

also note that you cant bind humans or half humans like you can spirits, they require a special ceremony. so the fact hanyi was bound like normal proves shes not half human

Amn · Oct 22, 2021

[X] Su Ling was doing well already, she had already turned her blood to her own purposes. Why waste something you had already stolen? Wasn't it a better revenge to use your enemy's tools against them?

I see this as a trauma inspired reaction and doubt that his will fix the underlying issue, aka she despising the way of her birth and ultimately herself. Cutting out parts of her mother might superficially give her some spiteful satisfaction but won´t ultimately reconcile her feelings about herself and the fate of her father. Personally I´d advice her to work through her trauma without sacrificing something entirely hers, specifically her very nature.
If after our counsel she still wants to go through with it, thats that but life changing decisions like this have to be challenged not just affirmed.

Lena27 · Oct 22, 2021

Vanguard_D said:
We are giving her an advice. What she decides from the advice we and Suyin and Qingling gives her depends on herself.

Yes but meta-wise, what does it actually depend on? Like how is Yrsillar going to decide? Will our answer affect the chance of her making one choice over another a certain amount? Will Yrsillar be deciding this at least partially with a roll? There's not a lot of info here.

Neshuakadal · Oct 22, 2021

This is a very difficult conversation. To me I think the biggest red flag for me is that this idea is coming now, when a tail is on the way. This feels like a knee jerk reaction rather than giving it the consideration it deserves.

There is a lot of different ways to approach this conversation and a lot of different issues mixing together for it. I think in the end I will vote for option one. I feel like Su Ling is rushing for a solution instead of looking for one, so I don't think surgery will give her what she needs.

Valmond · Oct 22, 2021

XiaoYueMao said:
Hanyi isnt actually half human. its been stated multiple times that she was left in Zeqings womb for so long that she died, shes the spirit of a corpse, shes full spirit, shes simply humanlike due to being a spirit of a dead human.

also note that you cant bind humans or half humans like you can spirits, they require a special ceremony. so the fact hanyi was bound like normal proves shes not half human

Yes, but the reason people get somewhat iffy when they learn Hanyi's dad was a human is because of the issues with binding humans.

Vanguard_D · Oct 22, 2021

Lena27 said:
Yes but meta-wise, what does it actually depend on? Like how is Yrsillar going to decide? Will our answer affect the chance of her making one choice over another a certain amount? Will Yrsillar be deciding this at least partially with a roll? There's not a lot of info here.

She will take LQ´s advice under consideration. Good thing about yrs characters is that they usually do things by themselves based on their own values and goals. This wont be a direct "Su Ling does what we tell her" but it will probably be a factor in her decision making. Just like any advice from a friend is.

Erebeal · Oct 22, 2021

Ultimately, yeah, tried to work through the arguments for the second but at the end of the day this just feels most IC:

[X] Su Ling was doing well already, she had already turned her blood to her own purposes. Why waste something you had already stolen? Wasn't it a better revenge to use your enemy's tools against them?

Neshuakadal · Oct 22, 2021