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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Most likely because he's one of the few people we have working with an Archduke's blood and is a blatant worshipper of Zathir, Asmodeus' greatest foe.

Damned well he'll want that soul.

[X] Yes
-[X] Wait until he is on his feet and more balanced mentally
 
It's obviously too late, but Imperial Steel forgers probably should have far better guards. We also need to figure out how to get around the fact that Hell might know everything about Imperial Steel and make sure they can't use that knowledge to shank the Imperial Deity.
 
Duesal said:
It's obviously too late, but Imperial Steel forgers probably should have far better guards. We also need to figure out how to get around the fact that Hell might know everything about Imperial Steel and make sure they can't use that knowledge to shank the Imperial Deity.
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none of the crafts men knew a thing about the imperial deity and Baator knowing about imperial steel doesn't mean they can make the logic jump that its being used as component in long term plan to forge a god plus its safe to assume the suspicion of such project as creating a god won't even cross Asmoduce's mind until its far too late , cause remember magic has only retuned less than a decade ago so in the minds of Baator even the guys who have managed to attain immortality would still be thinking like short sighted mortals as far as they know , also even if knowledge of the imperial deity leaks Baator is likely going to assume they have centuries to scheme around it after all none of them so much as suspect that the necessary divine seed money has already been acquired(I am talking about the drowned god's power that Big V stole from it at birth)
 
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I have played enough quests to know that is going to be really tempting from the other side of the screen
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eh, not really, to be honest?

Frankly, even for some of the Companions I wouldn't agree going storming the gates of all nine hells for.
(And that what Viserys would face. No archdevil would spend the expense, knowing he's weak to his comrades' peril)

This guy...
Well, he's somewhat important, but for sentimentality alone, really.

The worst that could happen is strategic layout getting learned by the Devils, and afaik, we never issued him a Mindblank before the system-change, so the all the info he knew was likely already compromised.
 
mmgaballah said:
none of the crafts men knew a thing about the imperial deity and Baator knowing about imperial steel doesn't mean they can make the logic jump that its being used as component in long term plan to forge a god plus its safe to assume the suspicion of such project as creating a god won't even cross Asmoduce's mind until its far too late , cause remember magic has only retuned less than a decade ago so in the minds of Baator even the guys who have managed to attain immortality would still be thinking like short sighted mortals as far as they know , also even if knowledge of the imperial deity leaks Baator is likely going to assume they have centuries to scheme around it after all none of them so much as suspect that the necessary divine seed money has already been acquired(I am talking about the drowned god's power that Big V stole from it at birth)
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As far as we know, nobody but Viserys and Companions know about the Imperial Deity.

But this is Asmodeus. Do not underestimate him. He can do a lot with a smith that knows everything we know about Imperial Steel and how to use it.
 
kind of wondering how the hell did Baator manage to make off with the souls of our black smiths in the first place , like the avatars of two gods were about and about relatively near by and one of them was the sort that has every reason to oppose Baator's master so unless it was a case of them lucking out and ending up in hell the only way those specific souls could have been stolen is if an archdevil was on site to snatch them
 
Gods I have finally done it!

This is longer than War and Peace, not to mention all of the millions of posts in between.
I have read from start to finish, only took me 6 months.
I don't think I have read so much since University.

DragonParadox, if you don't have a Patreon or paid for this, everyone reading this owes you something (name your drug/drink of choice). Many authors who work for a living don't generate so much content. Not only that it is of high standard too; the dialogue is also impressive.
Oh and Azel deserves a pat on the back for stats, game feels like Crusader kings meet DnD 3.5 and still somehow works with the crazy Frankenstein monster of both systems.

And what a time to start!
Conquest of Westeros Get! Followed by, gaining a city and suffering a serious bloody nose attack.
Honestly, there was so much very good luck that this is better than what could have happened. Imagine if the Brazen throne had killed Visery's?
High stakes this time, the game has seriously changed.

Some crazy idea I had about reducing the damage of future attacks is to intentionally create 'bait' targets. Maybe fake ward stones?
Even better would be to manufacture some less effective but much cheaper.

Finally for the current vote:

[X] Yes
-[X] Wait until he is on his feet and more balanced mentally


Oh and a bonus for the current situation for the wizard of ID fans. If Visery's was more like his Canon self
 
Welcome Newbie! Always happy to have a new face!

[X] Yes
-[x] Right now, you do not wish to keep the secret

Full Leeroy on this!
 
quelthias said:
Gods I have finally done it!

This is longer than War and Peace, not to mention all of the millions of posts in between.
I have read from start to finish, only took me 6 months.
I don't think I have read so much since University.

DragonParadox, if you don't have a Patreon or paid for this, everyone reading this owes you something (name your drug/drink of choice). Many authors who work for a living don't generate so much content. Not only that it is of high standard too; the dialogue is also impressive.
Oh and Azel deserves a pat on the back for stats, game feels like Crusader kings meet DnD 3.5 and still somehow works with the crazy Frankenstein monster of both systems.

And what a time to start!
Conquest of Westeros Get! Followed by, gaining a city and suffering a serious bloody nose attack.
Honestly, there was so much very good luck that this is better than what could have happened. Imagine if the Brazen throne had killed Visery's?
High stakes this time, the game has seriously changed.

Some crazy idea I had about reducing the damage of future attacks is to intentionally create 'bait' targets. Maybe fake ward stones?
Even better would be to manufacture some less effective but much cheaper.

Finally for the current vote:

[X] Yes
-[X] Wait until he is on his feet and more balanced mentally


Oh and a bonus for the current situation for the wizard of ID fans. If Visery's was more like his Canon self
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  1. Thank you, it is always nice to see a new reader.
  2. The problem with fake wardsstones is that the real thing is rather obvious by virtue of its function. Like any diviner can find an Uncertainty ward just because that is where their power stops working
 
[X] Yes
-[X] Wait until he is on his feet and more balanced mentally

Eh, gotta wait til he cools off first. No need for the kid to swear oaths in a fit of emotion.
 
Omg, that Loki Episode 6!

That got me thinking... Do we all have free will in this setting? There are points in this quest where the Endgame is leading. That dream sequence of awakening ourselves...

Reforging Heaven? Fixing Nirvana? Repairing Axis?

What if this entire setting is a quest for Viserys to one day claim Axis and be the head of the Inevitables just as the Lawful Neutral that he truly is?

A Time Dragon... A Paradox...

DragonParadox is a Viserys variant at the end of time, making sure the Sacred Timeline exists!

Wake up sheeple!
 
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Part MMMDCCCL: A Bold Summons
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    • A Bold Summons ​

    Fourteenth Day of the Tenth Month 294 AC

    Randyll Tarly is a decent public speaker on his own terms, you muse as you lean back in your seat and consider his most recent exchange with the Voice from Westhaven, representative of not just the citizens who have their residence in the military base proper but also the surrounding lands. One would certainly not call him inspiring, at least not outside a battlefield, but he gives clear concise answers that manages to reassure when reassurance is appropriate without falling to double-forked meanings and honeyed words.

    In the aftermath of what will likely be recalled forever in Imperial histories as the Burning of the Dale, questions for the Minister of War had come swift and at times sharp in spite of the fact that, unlike all the marshals who were seated in the Curia, he had no direct part in the decision. Yet questioning the marshals was starting to be seen particularly among the lower chamber as questioning the troops; not quite disloyal, but more akin to lacking in civic spirit in these trying times or, to quote a rather popular editorial in the Times, 'un-patriotic'. As elected officials, the Vox are particularly sensitive to such public perceptions, be they headwind or tailwind, which is how Tarly came to be questioned on matters that are quite far from the strict remit of his post. Several times the marshals had chosen to interject of their own will but he had never asked for their help, at least not in public.

    It is no secret among the halls of power that the Minister of War had taken the blow against Everfire Dale among the hardest and that he has been seeking to educate himself on the threat with the most elan. A request for a ring of sustenance from the man himself had actually gotten as high up as your desk simply because of how strained the logistics had gotten over these past few days. You had approved it at once, of course. Of all the reactions one might have at a time like this, throwing one's self into study is among the best.

    If anything, you wonder if his time might not be better spent doing that than still picking over the details of that day to the exigent standards of the Vox and some of his fellow princeps.

    That is when the Third Voice of the Stepstones, Vox Populi Imperialis Irricho Wyna, says something that is about as far from repetitive as one can get, that is indeed so surprising as to silence the constant hum of the chamber like the fall of a leaden curtain. "You say that the first to see the storm was the Winged Serpent Zathir, indeed that he was the first to try to react and fail, that he was one to warn the Imperator in far off Qohor, yet we have heard nothing of him in this chamber out of respect for his... nature." Wyna pauses and clears his throat uncomfortably. "No matter his powers, no matter the magic or miracle that animates his form, he is a being who acts within the bounds of the Imperium, indeed who acts upon the skies of the capital, the very ones this chamber lies under. I ask that he be called to the stand as a witness in order to give us a clearer picture of that happened that day and the way in which we might best avoid another such calamity."

    "Surprised that one does not have silver hair," Varys hisses in your mind.

    You snort and offer a mild reproving glance. In face and stature Wyna is about as unremarkable a person as one might find in the crowded streets of the Deep, but one must admit that asking for a god's testimony before a body they are a part of is something that would fit your kin, the human no less than the draconic.

    Zathir himself probably would not even mind being called to testify in the matter, but you are not sure you want to create a precedent of incarnate Gods being summoned to speak before the chamber. Someone might try to use the precedent to call on Yss or worse, R'hllor. From the look of some of the more religiously inclined members you suspect you are not alone in considering this and the shock will not keep them silent long.

    What do you do?

    [] Speak up against the notion, the precedent is too dangerous

    [] Speak up for the idea, Zathir would not mind and it is in the spirit of how you Dany and many of your Companions see gods

    [] Let matters progress without your interference

    [] Write in

    OOC: So I was just going to do a regular action and then it occurred to me that it has been quite a while since we have heard from the Curia. I thought about how some of them would react, did some rolls and this came out of it.
     
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    [X] Speak up against the notion, the precedent is too dangerous
     
    DragonParadox said:
    A Bold Summons ​

    Fourteenth Day of the Tenth Month 294 AC

    Randyll Tarly is a decent public speaker on his own terms, you muse as you lean back in your seat and consider his most recent exchange with the Voice from Westhaven, representative of not just the citizens who have their residence in the military base proper but also the surrounding lands. One would certainly not call him inspiring, at least not outside a battlefield, but he gives clear and concise answers that manage to reassure when reassurance is appropriate without falling to double-forked meanings and honeyed words.

    In the aftermath of what will likely be recalled forever in Imperial histories as the Burning of the Dale, questions for the Minister of War had come swift and at times sharp in spite of the fact that, unlike all the marshals who seated in the Curia, he had no direct part in the decision. Yet questioning the marshals was starting to be seen particularly among the lower chamber as questioning the troops; not quite disloyal, but more akin to lacking in civic spirit in these trying times or, to quote a rather popular editorial in the Times, 'un-patriotic'. As elected officials, the Vox are particularly sensitive to such public perceptions, be they headwind or tailwind, which is how Tarly came to be questioned on matters that are quite far from the strict remit of his post. Several times, Marshals had chosen to interject of their own will but he had never asked for their help, at least not in public.

    It is no secret among the halls of power that the Minister of War had taken the blow against Everfire Dale among the hardest and that he has been seeking to educate himself on the threat with the most elan. A request for a ring of sustenance from the man himself had actually gotten as high up as your desk simply because of how strained the logistics had gotten over these past few days. You had approved it at once, of course. Of all the reactions one might have at a time like this, throwing one's self into study is among the best.

    If anything, you wonder if his time might not be better spent doing that than still picking over the details of that day to the exigent standards of the Vox and some of his fellow princeps.

    That is when the Third Voice of the Stepstones, Vox Populi Imperialis Irricho Wyna, says something that is about as far from repetitive as one can get, that is indeed so surprising as to silence the constant hum of the chamber like the fall of a leaden curtain. "You say that the first to see the storm was the Winged Serpent Zathir, indeed that he was the first to try to react and fail, that he was one to warn the Imperator in far off Qohor, yet we have heard nothing of him in this chamber out of respect for his... nature." Wyna pauses and clears his throat uncomfortably. "No matter his powers, no matter the magic or miracle that animates his form, he is a being who acts within the bounds of the Imperium, indeed who acts upon the skies of the capital, the very ones this chamber lies under. I ask that he be called to the stand as a witness in order to give us a clearer picture of that happened that day and the way in which we might best avoid another such calamity."

    "Surprised that one does not have silver hair," Varys hisses in your mind.

    You snort and offer a mild reproving glance. In face and stature Wyna is about as unremarkable a person as one might find in the crowded streets of the Deep, but one must admit that asking for a god's testimony before a body they are a part of is something that would fit your kin, the human no less than the draconic.

    Zathir himself probably would not even mind being called to testify in the matter, but you are not sure you want to create a precedent of incarnate Gods being summoned to speak before the chamber. Someone might try to use the precedent to call on Yss or worse, R'hllor. From the look of some of the more religiously inclined members, you suspect you are not alone in considering this and the shock will not keep them silent long.

    What do you do?

    [] Speak up against the notion, the precedent is too dangerous

    [] Speak up for the idea, Zathir would not mind and it is in the spirit of how you Dany and many of your Companions see gods

    [] Let matters progress without your interference

    [] Write in

    OOC: So I was just going to do a regular action and then it occurred to me that it has been quite a while since we have heard from the Curia. I thought about how some of them would react, did some rolls and this came out of it. Not yet edited.
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    Haha, no fucking way are we letting this become a precedent.

    [X] Speak up against the notion, the precedent is too dangerous
     
    To be fair, we can set precedent by making the God's presence optional, and a herald the mandatory thing

    This I feel is a nice compromise. Zathir can come if her wishes, and Burny can send someone to speak for him.

    (I personally would love to be able to have Burny explain himself in front of everybody, but I know that is not going to happen)
     
    [X] Speak up against the notion, the precedent is too dangerous

    I want to vote to allow the motion because it would be hilarious, but I don't think we should be giving mortals like the Vox any jurisdiction over gods. Forget Burny and Yss, I refuse to see the day someone tries to call the Old Gods to the stand and we have to grow them a tree for the occassion.
     
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