It's still better than saying that I will keep them in check. And they will get to question every five years so they can have a public forum for any doubts. It will at least make them feel that they have some influence on the decision.
A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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[X] Azel
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I'm telling them that they can bitch whenever they want though? The question is if we will listen, but your suggestion doesn't change that. The Curia can't force us to do anything.
Fair enough. I just think we should have a specific formal bitching time. But this is fine as well
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We have. It's called "Curia session".
Jack_Trade
Chasing the Green Fairy
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Have the Curia even realized that Viserys and the companions for that matter, are effectively immortal?
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Proving that only the Many-minded are destined to dominate the multiverse.We have. It's called "Curia session".
[X] Azel
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We're certainly not hiding the fact.
Crake
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Effectively ageless is the more correct answer.
Living on a death world, and not just a death world, but a Hell Dimension with sub-Nightmare Dimensions, functionally no one is immortal. Even Gods.
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The fact that they have an old man in a young body standing right in front of them, made so by our magic, says yet.
Even if the whole "Dragon" thing hasn't fully sunk in, and the whole "Mythic" thing is barely known, at least the Reincarnation is very well known.
They do, at least any of them that bothered to check how long a dragon that speaks like a man lives. Even without that the concept of 'he who makes the rules makes exceptions for kith and kin' is a bone deep truth west and east of the Narrow Sea.
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That simply means that you must be more... thorough. We are all the proof you need of that.
Did you ever get that feeling like you are a dorf in Dwarf Fortress 'DragonParadox is in a fey mood' kind of thing, because I have the strongest temptation to try to reboot Kings of Men even though I know I do not have the time for a third quest. I swear sometimes my muse just seems to me more in the business of teasing than inspiring
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*grumbles in abortive quests*Did you ever get that feeling like you are a dorf in Dwarf Fortress 'DragonParadox is in a fey mood' kind of thing, because I have the strongest temptation to try to reboot Kings of Men even though I know I do not have the time for a third quest. I swear sometimes my muse just seems to me more in the business of teasing than inspiring
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If you were the type of writer who could go back to something after a long break I'd say just let this one cool off a bit and do it, but those are rather rare and I don't think it could work for you.Did you ever get that feeling like you are a dorf in Dwarf Fortress 'DragonParadox is in a fey mood' kind of thing, because I have the strongest temptation to try to reboot Kings of Men even though I know I do not have the time for a third quest. I swear sometimes my muse just seems to me more in the business of teasing than inspiring
It really would not, the best I might be able to do after a long time would be a reboot and I do not think anyone here wants to go back to the One Eyed Rat.
Crake
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"Aw shit, here we go again."It really would not, the best I might be able to do after a long time would be a reboot and I do not think anyone here wants to go back to the One Eyed Rat.
I think that it could be pretty reasonable to have a set period every few years, either 5 or 10, where we officially evaluate ministerial roles. Basically a set time for a cabinet reshuffle, for mandates to potentially change, and for official retirement due to length of service. At the very least, I think we should establish that people will be expected to step aside for a term every once in a while. Term limits don't really make great sense in the context of potentially immortal leadership, because what if you're at war and actually want your best general back, but he's already lead the fight for a while?
Despite this, I think there is a fair point to try and establish ideas like taking a "retirement" every few years, and what that actually means in practice. Do top civil servants get any form of old-age pay? Maybe establish that after something like 25/40/50 years (some year number like that, maybe a siding scale?) you get retirement pay for 25 years, in which period you're expected not to serve in government or be at the top of industries. Maybe the longer you serve, the longer you're expected not to serve with a potential for emergency override?
I think there is a fair point to trying to establish norms like this. Additionally, I think establishing that we actually may take actions proposed by people questioning us is important so the institution feels like it actually provides value. If we don't budge on this issue, I think we should take action on at least one point people raise.
Despite this, I think there is a fair point to try and establish ideas like taking a "retirement" every few years, and what that actually means in practice. Do top civil servants get any form of old-age pay? Maybe establish that after something like 25/40/50 years (some year number like that, maybe a siding scale?) you get retirement pay for 25 years, in which period you're expected not to serve in government or be at the top of industries. Maybe the longer you serve, the longer you're expected not to serve with a potential for emergency override?
I think there is a fair point to trying to establish norms like this. Additionally, I think establishing that we actually may take actions proposed by people questioning us is important so the institution feels like it actually provides value. If we don't budge on this issue, I think we should take action on at least one point people raise.
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I do not think you guys have any sort of pension. Ironically this is one area where Westeros is ahead of the game, since giving pensions to leal servants who can no longer serve in full is seen as good lordship though of course that is all a matter for the individual to decide.
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We should have that in place for retired legionnaires. We can just extend that system as needed.
Oh yeah you give lands to legionaries I meant a pension in coin.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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IIRC, the Legion has different exit benefits for people leaving Service, based on length of service.
5 years results in an increment of "current salary + keeping equipment", 10 years a greater portion plus current benefits, 15, same, 20 and they get a plot of land as a homestead. You would have to look for the vote though.
I think we can just safely assume that we take care of our retiring government officials broadly speaking.
It has never been discussed so I think that might be one of those things best left to actions under the new system, it is the kind of board organizational challenge that seems to fit.