[X] Archmaester Benedict
[X] Netzachel (God's Victory)
[X] General Vaerios Ghad
[X] General Hazhak mo Zhoa
 
[X] Archmaester Benedict
[X] Netzachel (God's Victory)
[X] General Vaerios Ghad
[X] Red Ant


Let's give the Westerosi a bone to chew on, shall we.
 
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[X] Archmaester Benedict
[X] Netzachel (God's Victory)
[X] General Vaerios Ghad
[X] General Hazhak mo Zhoa
 
I can't see how Benedict would fully satiate the need for big-dick-swinging from the traditional martial elite, for exactly the same reasons that Benedict was considered controversial... and still is to the same degree.

While it's a posting that "makes sense" because he is an "Archmaester"--and we all realize how little bearing that holds for any of us, especially being the case that while objectively we know he can grow into his position since his credentials are actually high enough and intelligence assessments of his character seem to indicate he would probably excel in the role, he still doesn't have much of a resume of positions and campaigns compared to some of the other candidates.

As a "compromise" candidate to show that we "have taken their concerns about Westerosi having some point of contact in the IMF seriously", he is sorely lacking in much of the way that matters. He's presumably not born to nobility, much less high nobility. He's not a Knight, which was the real sticking point, with the feudal lords wanting to feel like they still matter to Viserys militarily, even if only for their expertise in all matters "stabbing badguys dead" even if that's basically headed toward rapid obsolescence.

@Azel pointed out that if we didn't pick Benedict now, someone like Donnel, or worse, might be forced down our throat later. I'm fucking baffled on how he ended up on this list in the first place, instead of someone with a similarly sterling reputation and background in knighthood who--I don't know--just so happened to be counted a loyalist, or even just someone reasonably well-disposed toward us. It doesn't signal very well when we reward people who only got in line at literal gunpoint.

But in reality, picking Benedict is just kicking this can down the road.

I'm not overly concerned, because our "response" to being pressed for including someone with Donnel's criteria later on in the Curia is that our mobile elite is going to be combined arms, and literally none of the martial nobility have the means of supplying any of the components to that, nor the background for making any of it work as of yet. Then segue into how much we've developed the curriculum at the Imperial Military Academy, cough cough, not so subtle nudge to send their children there. That kicks the can down the road even further, only this way we're tacitly implying there has not been a noble scion born yet with the right background for high command roles, and also gives us ample opportunity to indoctrinate educate indoctrinate their second and third sons to our liking.
 
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I can't see how Benedict would fully satiate the need for big-dick-swinging from the traditional martial elite, for exactly the same reasons that Benedict was considered controversial... and still is to the same degree.

While it's a posting that "makes sense" because he is an "Archmaester"--and we all realize how little bearing that holds for any of us, especially being the case that while objectively we know he can grow into his position since his credentials are actually high enough and intelligence assessments of his character seem to indicate he would probably excel in the role, he still doesn't have much of a resume of positions and campaigns compared to some of the other candidates.

As a "compromise" candidate to show that we "have taken their concerns about Westerosi having some point of contact in the IMF seriously", he is sorely lacking in much of the way that matters. He's presumably not born to nobility, much less high nobility. He's not a Knight, which was the real sticking point, with the feudal lords wanting to feel like they still matter to Viserys militarily, even if only for their expertise in all matters "stabbing badguys dead" even if that's basically headed toward rapid obsolescence.

@Azel pointed out that if we didn't pick Benedict now, someone like Donnel, or worse, might be forced down our throat later. I'm fucking baffled on how he ended up on this list in the first place, instead of someone with a similarly sterling reputation and background in knighthood who--I don't know--just so happened to be counted a loyalist, or even just someone reasonably well-disposed toward us. It doesn't signal very well when we reward people who only got in line at literal gunpoint.

But in reality, picking Benedict is just kicking this can down the road.

I'm not overly concerned, because our "response" to being pressed for including someone with Donnel's criteria later on in the Curia is that our mobile elite is going to be combined arms, and literally none of the martial nobility have the means of supplying any of the components to that, nor the background for making any of it work as of yet. Then segue into how much we've developed the curriculum at the Imperial Military Academy, cough cough, not so subtle nudge to send their children there. That kicks the can down the road even further, only this way we're tacitly implying there has not been a noble scion born yet with the right background for high command roles, and also gives us ample opportunity to indoctrinate educate indoctrinate their second and third sons to our liking.
Benedict is definitely not a pick that fully satisfies the Westerosi nobility, but between him and Tarly being Minister of War, it's a decent amount of lipservice being paid towards the Westerosi traditions. Both are concessions to entrenched power structures we care little about, both are fig leafs and everyone knows it. But in the end, that is all that matters. Benedict is sufficiently "one of them" that they can rally behind him, even if they would have generally not even known he existed before today, which is much better than having to pick between a Ghiscari, a Braavosi, a R'hllor fanatic and a Demon tainted Archon to back as "their guy". So he is, in the end, the hero no one wanted (and who would generally shit on them since they were happy to call him a delusional clown barely two weeks ago), but also the only thing they got.

As for Donnel, the issue is that pickings are just that slim in Westeros. With all functions over government being united in the lord, there is no cadre of professionals to recruit from and with the only military force that adapted to the times at all being the one opposed to us, there are not really any other leaders available. And most loyalist leaders from Roberts Rebellion are either dead or very much on the Imperators shit-list, like Selmy and Mace Tyrell.

Donnel largely made the cut because he has at least some recent campaigning experience and, while himself being woefully inadequate at magical warfare, having an understanding of what he needs to improve upon (courtesy of Dalla clowning on him). At the same time, picking him would have been a huge "reaching across the aisle" moment so to speak, showing that we are willing to forgive and forget, and throwing a big bone to the warrior nobility.
He simply would have given the most political bang for blowing this position on someone who absolutely sucks at it for multiple reasons.


We will definitely still get calls by the Westerosi to name their second uncles to some high government functions which they are unqualified for because of their last name, that's how feudal systems work, but now we can point to Benedict and Tarly as examples of us indulging them already when telling them to pound dirt.
 
Would Andrew Dayne be willing to put his lordship down for the post?

I don't like him, but he seemed competent and he has been working with mages for longer than most Westerosi, thanks to being Dornish.

Another possible option would be one of Manderly's sons, they are unproven in high-magic warfare, but they've been dealing with devils and undead for quite some time.

I mean, either of those might work if you just want a Westerosi noble that didn't just recently surrender to us.
 
Would Andrew Dayne be willing to put his lordship down for the post?

I don't like him, but he seemed competent and he has been working with mages for longer than most Westerosi, thanks to being Dornish.

Another possible option would be one of Manderly's sons, they are unproven in high-magic warfare, but they've been dealing with devils and undead for quite some time.

I mean, either of those might work if you just want a Westerosi noble that didn't just recently surrender to us.
Andrew Dayne would largely be seen as rewarding the Dornish some more. Manderly is better in that regard, but I think it's decently well known by now that he is one of those lords counselling Ned Stark to sit the restoration out.

Donnel would have so much of a political impact precisely because he sucks so much. Naming him is akin to kow-towing before the idea of Westerosi warrior nobility, which something they direly crave and which would do a great deal to shut them up. However, I'm not remotely willing to give that to them.

I mean, I like Benedict last but not least since it's unlikely that he will actually support the Princeps Sanguine all that much in the Curia. He also has the benefit of being some red meat for the rank and file of the Maesters, making it more likely that they swallow our take-over and de facto dissolution of their order. It should also encourage more competent Maesters to migrate to SD instead of dealing with the mess in Oldtown.
 
OK, vote closed.
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Apr 12, 2021 at 10:11 AM, finished with 125 posts and 31 votes.
 
de facto dissolution of their order
I don't think it will be de facto but rather straight up dissolution cause here is the thing we are going to need a lot of educated personal to work as administrators for Westeros and since things will go along more smoothly if those administrators are Westerosi rather than Essosi since it will feel less like a foreign conquest for the common people that way ,we are going to have to dissolve the Citadel to free up the potential bureaucrats as its the only place on the continent with a large number of educated personal qualified for paper pushing duties
 
[X] Archmaester Benedict
[X] Netzachel (God's Victory)
[X] General Vaerios Ghad
[X] General Hazhak mo Zhoa

Might as well vote.
 
I'd like to make a point of hiring Ryos Lodaris to manage the Plane of Water mercenaries we have on retainer.
 
Winning Vote
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Apr 12, 2021 at 10:11 AM, finished with 125 posts and 31 votes.
 
Part MMMDCCLIII: Of Law Most High
Of Law Most High

Tenth Day of the Fifth Month 294 AC

Having settled the matters of the military from the Minister of War to the Marshals of earth and air you turn your eye upon those who besides Malarys shall have more of an impact in times of peace over all the citizens of the realm. While local laws may flow from the quills of local lords, seen to by the Voices of their provinces, and the laws of the Empire may derive from your thoughts, the High Court shall have a strong voice in the interpreting of those laws, and as any legal scholar worth the name the difference between craft of law and interpretation of the same is like onto the difference between a river and the sea, clear from afar, but oft a wide and muddy delta stretches between them.

First among the names brought forward is that of the young Gunthor Hightower, a mere three and twenty years of age, and more a dabbler in the law than a full scholar, though willing and even eager to learn. Still, were it not for the patronage of his brother, Duke Baelor, he would not even be in the running at this point. His appointment would peak as much for the politics of the present as the hopes of the future skill. Still, you trust Malarys to keep him on a straight path and one more vote the head of the court could count upon by reason of youth and inexperience would not go wholly amiss.

Hailing also from Oldtown though under much different circumstances is Maester Petyr, a man of low birth and no great importance in the Citadel. Nonetheless, a keen light shines in his eye and has long served as a scribe to various archmaesters, giving him experience in both political and bureaucratic matters. His skill as a litigator is largely untested, though it is hoped that he can slide by on his reputation as a scholar long enough to gain experience in the doing.

The call for more experienced folk in the actual business of settling disputes has brought to light, alongside many expected candidates, those who are unexpected. Morwyn of Deepcleft has served for many years as a judge and his rulings are counted fair by most who came before him, or at least even in their unfairness. The only trouble is that the place where he served was Deepcleft and the scepter of his lord was that of Salladhor Saan. Pirates need fair judges in many ways more than other men, but you doubt many shall prove as philosophical in this matter. Grumbles and dark rumor are likely to follow the man many years hence, no matter his skill at oratory.

From silver tongue to one perhaps less depth from Dorne comes a man who has for many years served as the right hand and almost the voice of the gout ridden Doran Martell in matters of the law. Here at last you see a man that even Malarys ungrudgingly admits knows his craft well, as a litigator and as a judge. Alas, Vynar Jokarys is in person the sort of man who makes Stannis Baratheon seem charismatic by contrast and has gained foes to match his manner. In Dorne only the patronage of the prince could have shielded him and you have little doubt it shall be the same in the Deep from foes old and new made.

The next judge hails from even farther afield, as far indeed as any judge within your boarders. Javad Rahbar of the Vault is currently serving as a legal counsel of the administration directly under Alinor. The shaitan lawyer was one of the first immigrants from the Opaline Vault to the Imperium and he had practiced law there for nearly a century already. Since serving under Alinor he has been a great influence on the internal regulations of the bureaucracy and even helped to draw some laws in this function, making him one of the foremost lawyers in the realm. Unfortunately, he is rather strict and considered conservative even by the standards of the shaitan.

Again among the ranks of the archons there is one who might well serve the task, though as with many of his kindred Chesed still bears the scars of the Fall of Heaven. Once he was a herald of Olheon, a fallen Lord Ephemeral whose name few now recall. The trumpeter bore his lord's rulings and judgement to all that is, but since the Fall of Heaven and the death of his lord he himself had taken up the gavel to speak judgements in honor of his memory. His past and very nature make him a fantastic candidate for a post as a judge, but the darkening of the world has not left him unchanged. Over the years he has grown jaded to the concerns of mortals, and while not cruel or malicious he often is far more concerned with the precedents he sets or the outlook of the realm for centuries to come than the person before him.

By far one of the oddest folk whose name landed on your desk, in purely human terms at least, is that of Syrio Coltherys. In many ways meeting him feels almost nostalgic, the garb of drab grey and personality willfully blank that reminds one of the image of a Braavosi solicitor almost to the point of caricature, which makes it all the more surprising that he hails instead from Tyrosh. A mask willfully crafted, you realize at once. Contrary to what he projects outwards he is a social climber with a rather colorful private life. So far he managed to keep his professional life and his private escapades from interfering with each other, but with the increased scrutiny the post of High Judge would give him there might be a scandal sooner or later.

Evening brings your first meeting with a priest of the Blind God of Lorath, about whom you have been long curious though you have never had the time to pursue among all the tasks and the calls upon your time. Jaquar of Lorath greets you without title or word of courtesy which to be honest is something of a relief in its directness among a court that seems yet obsessed in getting just the right one as it seeks its feet. He had, you learn been, working as a preacher and wandering judge among the Lorathi colonies for the past years. You find him scrupulously fair in his judgement for he places great emphasis on the careful consideration of the law to allow true justice to be met out. However, the priest is also extremely liberal even by the growing Imperial standards and rather outspoken about his faith. While technically not accredited as a priest and his faith being barely more than an accepted cult in the Imperium, he would still be seen by many as a clergyman being lifted into an office and wake desires by other faiths to see some of their own elevated likewise.

At the other end of the scales you find Thomond Rain, a man charming as he is sharp of wit and skilled in the use of both. In truth he too makes you nostalgic, but for far more personal a reason. If Corlys Waters had gone into law rather that step beyond it then you imagine might you have presented yourself to the world as such, and much as the charming rogue of the One-Eyed Rat Thomond has his own bodies sunk in the harbor as the saying goes. Born as the bastard son of the rather infamous Braavosi legal counsel, Rickon Wolf, the man had received a great legal education in the law firm his father co-founded. He had spent nearly three decades working as a lawyer, with an intermediate stint as a justicar under the previous Sealord. When queried about his dismissal of the man, Ferrego Antaryon noted that his father's law firm was well-respected, but also rumored to do some more than shady dealings with many keyholder houses. While nothing was ever conclusively proven against him, Thomond was known to greatly favor the moneyed gentry in his rulings and for that, many accused him of accepting bribes.

Next to the accounting is a Volantene, though for once proposed not from the Archon's Palace, but by a discreet message from Benerro. Maekar 'the Mongrel' has been the salvation of many a slave and former slave in the arcane and oft willfully confusing legal system of Old Volantis. Born in a Lyseni slave breeding establishment to unknown parents, Maekar served as a house slave, then tutor and finally as a lawyer after his grateful owner freed him, after which he took up the work for which he is most well known. Originally branded "the Mongrel" as an insult, he took the name as a badge of honor, styling himself as brother to all slaves in the city. Despite what his past might imply he is socially rather conservative by Imperial standards, which is likely why the Magisters of Volantis never took enough objection to him to have him dealth with. With slavery ended, his influence has begun to wane, but he is still a well-respected member of the Volantene Assembly's Voices. His appointment would be largely uncontroversial, but the man is used to not only interpret but also to try and change the law and that is unlikely to stop now.

From farther east you receive a rare recommendation from Relath whom to be honest you had not thought cared enough for the skills of men to comment one over the other, though upon hearing the history of Parion Dyodrys you begin to understand the brine dragon's reasons and his purpose. The Tolosi lawyer turned judge has been serving under Relath ever since the dragon had taken over the city. At first, he found most tasks of ruling beneath his dignity, so he instead delegated nearly all judicial powers to Parion. Even though the dragon would never say so out loud, his words in the recommendation still imply that the man's skill played a large role in keeping the peace in Tolos. Still, that very closeness will incline many to see him as a puppet of 'the Sea Dragon' who even now has a fearsome reputation in the Imperium. Knowing Relath you cannot even be certain said suspicions would be wholly wrong. Then again, as Malarys is quick to remind you, everyone has some kind of agenda and the perfect judge has not yet in the forges of Axis been wrought.

You had thought Dyodrys would be the last of the candidates, but upon the wings of shadow and by the counsel of the Iron Bank one more shows himself, a fey of the Orphne Court who has had much to do with the first negotiations of the Iron Bank and those same fey. Swiftquill he is of the Svartalfar. While he does share the fey's general streak of mischievousness, showing itself as loopholes and fine print in his work, he is also diligent in his work and will perform tasks given to him to the letter of the order. The Iron Bank notes that he would be terrible in any capacity where he would have to draft laws, but would excel as a judge due to his attention to detail and literal-mindedness.

Choose Four (Approval Voting):

[] Gunthor Hightower
+ Westerosi Noble (one of the few Westerosi who could serve as a high judge at all, naming him would alley the fears of an Essosi dominated High Court)
+ Xenophile (he is quite interested in other cultures and much more willing to see their perspective on things than many others)
- Young (he is far younger than many judges in much lower positions and would likely be perceived as no more than a boy by many)
- Unskilled (he has no formal education in law, nor experience as a judge)

[] Maester Petyr
+ Westerosi (one of the few Westerosi who could serve as a high judge at all, naming him would alley the fears of an Essosi dominated High Court)
+ Quick (Marwyn praised his wit, which is praise he rarely gives)
+ Aura of Competence (over the years in the Citadel, he has cultivated the ability to appear knowledgeable and skilled, even when he was not)
- Untested (while he has some theoretical knowledge of litigating, he never did so in practice)
- Reluctant (part of feigning skill is to make sure nobody can ever test you to notice the lack thereof, so he is wary of accepting a position where he can not disappear easily)

[] Morwyn of Deepcleft
+ Incorruptible (contrary to what many believe, there is honor among thieves and nowhere more so than among those tasked with judging about it)
+ Diplomatic (a skilled negotiator and orator)
+- Flexible (is likely to bend the law somewhat if that would help to keep all parties of a dispute equally unhappy)
- Former Pirate (many will blindly accuse him of corruption or lawlessness due to his past life)

[] Vynar Jokarys
+ Experienced Judge (has spoken judgments in Doran's name for nearly ten years)
+ Vast Knowledge (he knows the law codes of the Imperium, Westeros and most of western Essos, including old Valyrian law by heart)
- Cold (many consider him impersonal and lacking in empathy or emotion)
- Easy to Hate (his history has aspects that make him a possible target of nearly every prejudice there is and his personality makes sure that many will pick one sooner or later)

[] Javad Rahbar
+ Very Experienced (nearly a century of experience as a lawyer)
+ Wrote the Book (after you and Malarys, he is likely the person who knows the Imperial law the best by virtue of having had a hand in writing parts of it)
+- By the Book (he takes the law above all else and his little tolerance to deviations from it's letter and intent)
- Very Conservative (while not showing itself in any prejudices or racism, he is a firm believer in a strictly ordered society and considers the Imperium painfully lax in this matter)
- Hanging Judge (he rarely if ever shows lenience and tends towards the harshest punishments the law allows)

[] Chesed (kindness, goodness)
+ Very Experienced (has served as a messenger to an Emypreal Lord of justice and litigated himself for millennia)
+ Good Reputation (his past and nature are guaranteed to draw positive reactions from everyone in the Imperium)
- Impersonal (views nearly exclusively the long term and tends to act as if his ruling will be law forever after, leading to some odd and controversial judgments)

[] Syrio Coltherys
+ Experienced (has two decades of experience as a lawyer and worked as a Imperial judge for the past two years in Tyrosh)
+ Unassuming (he is skilled at making himself look uninteresting and harmless, having led to many underestimating him)
+- Ambitious
- Secret Life (in private, he likes the company of whores and the taste of hard spirits, which would greatly harm his reputation if it became public)

[] Jaquar of Lorath
+ Blind Justice (firmly believes that all are equal before the law and will do his best to apply it so)
+ Thoughtful (never makes hasty decisions and will produce lengthy legal analysis for every case brought before him, ensuring that there is little ambiguity about why he made a given choice or how his rulings are meant)
+- Extremely Liberal (the Blind Gods followers believe that all creatures of the world are wholly equal, which goes much further than even the most firebrand agitators usually go)
- Priest of the Blind God (while he would no longer name himself such if nominated, most people would still see him as a priest and thus choosing him would be seen as opening the door for clergymen to hold high office)

[] Thomond Rain
+ Experienced Judge (three decades as a lawyer and one decade as a judge is about as much experience as a mortal man can have)
+ Diplomatic (has been rubbing shoulders with keyholders and the Braavosi elite since he was a boy and will make a good showing for himself on the political floor)
+- Favoring Wealth (he is a firm believer into the idea that amassing wealth is a proof of good character and will nearly always judge in favor of traders and other moneyed elites)
- Whispers of Bribery (while no actual cases of bribery have been found, that will hardly stop people from accusing him of such)

[] Maekar the Mongrel
+ Experienced (has been working as a lawyer for two decades)
+ Uncontroversial (he is still well liked by the former slaves as one of their own, while Magisters consider him non-threatening)
+ Good Orator (has experience in public speaking and served in the in the Council of Voices of the Hegemony of Volantis, making him a good spokesman in the Curia)
+- Socially Conservative
- Overreach (is likely to try to not only interpret, but also to adjust and create laws with his rulings)

[] Parion Dyodrys
+ Experienced (worked two decades as a lawyer and has been acting as the highest judge in Tolos for years)
+ Diplomatic (has played a large part in keeping the peace in Tolos by negotiating with the local nobles and Relath, wich makes it likely that he will prosper in the Curia)
+ Clean Reputation (there have never been any scandals involving him and the background checks imply that this is very unlikely to change, as he lives a rather unremarkable and calm life)
- Stench of Nepotism (he is very much Relaths candidate in the eyes of many, making his appointment seem mostly a favor to the dragon)
- Old Entanglements (he had to make some deals in his role in Tolos, so some Tolosi nobles might try to cash in old favors)

[] Swiftquill
+ Attention to Detail (is likely to catch even the smallest bits of information or legal ramifications of a case and very skilled at finding irregularities in the rulings of others)
+ Bound by his Word (once sworn into office, he will be incapable of dealing unfairly, taking bribes or indulge in any other behavior that would be problematic for a High Judge)
+- By the Letter (is very attached to the letter of the law and unlikely to interpret it to any great degree)
- Alien (in the end, he is a fey and his reasoning and rulings might come off as odd or incomprehensible to those not used to dealing with them)

OOC: And done, just a few more ministries and we will have a full accounting of the non-landed postings.
 
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[X] Maester Petyr
[X] Morwyn of Deepcleft
[X] Vynar Jokarys
[X] Chesed (kindness, goodness)
[X] Syrio Coltherys
[X] Swiftquill


Approval voting is allowed in these right?
 
I actually like most of these?

[X] Morwyn of Deepcleft
Saans been great. Willing to go to bat for Mr Pirate.

[X] Vynar Jokarys
Flaws seem workable and willing to stan for Dorne here

[X] Jaquar of Lorath
Blind God seems cool and a good counterpoint to some of the colder judges

[X] Chesed (kindness, goodness)
Oh hey Empyreal Lord sutff? Sure

[X] Parion Dyodrys
SG and not too worried about favorinf Relath.


Tempted by the Volatnene, but the whole trying to make laws bit is a little too far for me.
 
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[] Gunthor Hightower
+ Westerosi Noble (one of the few Westerosi who could serve as a high judge at all, naming him would alley the fears of an Essosi dominated High Court)
+ Xenophile (he is quite interested in other cultures and much more willing to see their perspective on things than many others)
- Young (he is far younger than many judges in much lower positions and would likely be perceived as no more than a boy by many)
- Unskilled (he has no formal education in law, nor experience as a judge)
He might be a decent candidate in ten to twenty years, but that's ten to twenty years away. Nope.
[] Maester Petyr
+ Westerosi (one of the few Westerosi who could serve as a high judge at all, naming him would alley the fears of an Essosi dominated High Court)
+ Quick (Marwyn praised his wit, which is praise he rarely gives)
+ Aura of Competence (over the years in the Citadel, he has cultivated the ability to appear knowledgeable and skilled, even when he was not)
- Untested (while he has some theoretical knowledge of litigating, he never did so in practice)
- Reluctant (part of feigning skill is to make sure nobody can ever test you to notice the lack thereof, so he is wary of accepting a position where he can not disappear easily)
Also nope. Avoiding having to appoint people like him is why I wanted Benedict.
[] Morwyn of Deepcleft
+ Incorruptible (contrary to what many believe, there is honor among thieves and nowhere more so than among those tasked with judging about it)
+ Diplomatic (a skilled negotiator and orator)
+- Flexible (is likely to bend the law somewhat if that would help to keep all parties of a dispute equally unhappy)
- Former Pirate (many will blindly accuse him of corruption or lawlessness due to his past life)
He's overall a decent pick, but he is scandal shaped.

Tentative yes from me.
[] Vynar Jokarys
+ Experienced Judge (has spoken judgments in Dorans name for nearly ten years)
+ Vast Knowledge (he knows the law codes of the Imperium, Westeros and most of western Essos, including old Valyrian law by heart)
- Cold (many consider him impersonal and lacking in empathy or emotion)
- Easy to Hate (his history has aspects that make him a possible target of nearly every prejudice there is and his personality makes sure that many will pick one sooner or later)
Solid choice and we can turn his disadvantage around and claim him to be the token Westerosi on the bench. After all, if he could speak judgement for Doran, then clearly he is fit to represent Westeros, right?
[] Javad Rahbar
+ Very Experienced (nearly a century of experience as a lawyer)
+ Wrote the Book (after you and Malarys, he is likely the person who knows the Imperial law the best by virtue of having had a hand in writing parts of it)
+- By the Book (he takes the law above all else and his little tolerance to deviations from it's letter and intent)
- Very Conservative (while not showing itself in any prejudices or racism, he is a firm believer in a strictly ordered society and considers the Imperium painfully lax in this matter)
- Hanging Judge (he rarely if ever shows lenience and tends towards the harshest punishments the law allows)
That he is very conservative is not that big of an issue on the bench since he will stick to the law as written. It's a bit more relevant for the Curia, but I'm not seeing him being very active there anyway.

He gets a vote from me.
[] Chesed (kindness, goodness)
+ Very Experienced (has served as a messenger to an Emypreal Lord of justice and litigated himself for millennia)
+ Good Reputation (his past and nature are guaranteed to draw positive reactions from everyone in the Imperium)
- Impersonal (views nearly exclusively the long term and tends to act as if his ruling will be law forever after, leading to some odd and controversial judgments)
He's pretty much the epitome of the detached Outsider that doesn't really get mortals all that well and he will likely cause a low churn of minor scandals and revisions reaching Viserys desk. Pretty much a big chunk of good PR now in exchange for a steady trickle of bad PR later.

Very tentative yes from me, mostly to balance out more controversial appointments.
[] Syrio Coltherys
+ Experienced (has two decades of experience as a lawyer and worked as a Imperial judge for the past two years in Tyrosh)
+ Unassuming (he is skilled at making himself look uninteresting and harmless, having led to many undeerstimating him)
+- Ambitious
- Secret Life (in private, he likes the company of whores and the taste of hard spirits, which would greatly harm his reputation if it became public)
Also a boring but solid yes.
[] Jaquar of Lorath
+ Blind Justice (firmly believes that all are equal before the law and will do his best to apply it so)
+ Thoughtful (never makes hasty decisions and will produce lengthy legal analysis for every case brought before him, ensuring that there is little ambiguity about why he made a given choice or how his rulings are meant)
+- Extremely Liberal (the Blind Gods followers believe that all creatures of the world are wholly equal, which goes much further than even the most firebrand agitators usually go)
- Priest of the Blind God (while he would no langer name himself such if nominated, most people would still see him as a priest and thus choosing him would be seen as opening the door for clergymen to hold high office)
Hard nope from me. His traits are neat, but he ain't worth the can of worms he would open.
[] Thomond Rain
+ Experienced Judge (three decades as a lawyer and one decade as a judge is about as much experience as a mortal man can have)
+ Diplomatic (has been rubbing shoulders with keyholders and the Braavosi elite since he was a boy and will make a good showing for himself on the political floor)
+- Favoring Wealth (he is a firm believer into the idea that amassing wealth is a proof of good character and will nearly always judge in favor of traders and other moneyed elites)
- Whispers of Bribery (while no actual cases of bribery have been found, that will hardly stop people from accusing him of such)
Nope. I've got no interest in naming someone who shows blatant favoritism like that.
[] Maekar the Mongrel
+ Experienced (has been working as a lawyer for two decades)
+ Uncontroversial (he is still well liked by the former slaves as one of their own, while Magisters consider him non-threatening)
+ Good Orator (has experience in public speaking and served in the in the Council of Voices of the Hegemony of Volantis, making him a good spokesman in the Curia)
+- Socially Conservative
- Overreach (is likely to try to not only interpret, but also to adjust and create laws with his rulings)
Eh. If we package him with more literal minded judges, his Overreach will be kept in check and other than that, he is good.
[] Swiftquill
+ Attention to Detail (is likely to catch even the smallest bits of information or legal ramifications of a case and very skilled at finding irregularities in the rulings of others)
+ Bound by his Word (once sworn into office, he will be incapable of dealing unfairly, taking bribes or indulge in any other behavior that would be problematic for a High Judge)
+- By the Letter (is very attached to the letter of the law and unlikely to interpret it to any great degree)
- Alien (in the end, he is a fey and his reasoning and rulings might come off as odd or incomprehensible to those not used to dealing with them)
Yeah. No. Definitely not. The High Court ain't the place for Fey shenanigans, even if the Iron Bank thinks he can be worked well with.


Firm votes:
[X] Vynar Jokarys
[X] Javad Rahbar
[X] Syrio Coltherys
[X] Maekar the Mongrel

Tentative votes:
[X] Morwyn of Deepcleft
[X] Chesed (kindness, goodness)
 
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