Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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[X] Sharing of historical texts and information. Strengthening the purported cultural ties will go a long way toward mollifying grumbling from more conservative factions in both parties.
[X] Push for an exchange of people. You can't stay, but in speaking with your companions Meng Dan has volunteered and assured you his aunt would approve. Bringing back someone nobles of the Emerald Seas can see and speak too would surely help.

I'm ok with either of these, although it looks like Sharing is going to easily win.
 
[X] Push for an exchange of people. You can't stay, but in speaking with your companions Meng Dan has volunteered and assured you his aunt would approve. Bringing back someone nobles of the Emerald Seas can see and speak too would surely help.
 
[X] Push for an exchange of people. You can't stay, but in speaking with your companions Meng Dan has volunteered and assured you his aunt would approve. Bringing back someone nobles of the Emerald Seas can see and speak too would surely help.
 
In all seriousness they were minor one offs to give some flavor to Ling Qi's interactions with the less important disciples, but hey someone wanted more of them and had the dosh to back it up, so here we are.
 
[X] Push for an exchange of people. You can't stay, but in speaking with your companions Meng Dan has volunteered and assured you his aunt would approve. Bringing back someone nobles of the Emerald Seas can see and speak too would surely help.
 
Adhoc vote count started by EternalObserver on Mar 7, 2021 at 6:19 PM, finished with 185 posts and 116 votes.
 
She remembered well what had happened to Yan Renshu, when his work had showed up a real noble.


Ya know this is a prime example of WHY the ministry of integrity and the Sect system exist and try really hard to make sure no one falls between the cracks.

Yes, Yan Renshu probably would have been a hypocritical bastard anyway, fair. But hero or monster, when you get cut off from legitimate advancing by bullshit reasons and the jealousy of the less deserving, you can become really, really dangerous for the system and for innocents in this universe.

Sadly, unless we start slumming with Outer Sect plebs, everybody in the Inner is more akin to social peers and not really available to be our mini boss squad :(

To be fair, we are raising meteorically, and the dods on the 900s and below aren't anything too special.
 
To be fair, we are raising meteorically, and the dods on the 900s and below aren't anything too special.

But even for the 900 rising to the 3rd realm in the inner sect is probably fairly easy, so socially all the common-born are pretty much guaranteed minor titles which makes them our equals. Not sure if inducting them to our clan would be feasible. And we really do need a few minions once we leave the sect. Even the Ma musician is close to the 3rd and earning a title and she's still in the outer sect.
Now I think that given the choice people like the Mas and Nie Ai would probably prefer to be our minions and leave the politicking to us but I'm not sure of the legality of the proposition.
 
It's fascinating to see this perspective. Because it's torn between fear of being a commoner in a dogpit of nobles, and pride in her ability and skill.

We get to see the knock-on effects of noble brutality here, in which talented commoners choose to keep their heads down and use their skills for smaller things when the Empire would prefer egalitarian skill in their cultivators, of any origin.

I think it'd be nice to point out that literally none of our (public) great achievements were possible without our cultivated social connections. And a lot of our private self-empowerment milestones were enabled by our social connections as well.

Nie Ai admires us? That's cool, because we admire Meizhen and until recently we've just been copying her brand of social LMAO

fake it til u make it bby.
Well.
Fake it while you're learning how to do it for real, and then try to figure out how to make it your own way. That's not as catchy though.

Nie Ai solo-held a "just a lumber camp, barely" for hours as a production cultivator against spooky third realm ape bombardment? No casualties and minimal damage?? Yo! Good for her!

I wonder if production cultivators have noble-parties the same as the noble combat cultivators do? Or if they're a bit busy in their workshops. Because uh, if Xuan Shi and Suyin want to have production cultivator parties with other quiet and shy talents, that'd be awesome 10/10
 
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Nie Ai solo-held a "just a lumber camp, barely" for hours as a production cultivator against spooky third realm ape bombardment? No casualties and minimal damage?? Yo! Good for her!
This is a great point, but also wrong. She didn't hold a camp for hours, she held it for days.

Nie Ai frowned as she lowered herself onto the bench. It felt good to sit, she had been dashing around the camp for the better part of three days now with barely a moment to recover beyond the restorative effect of her barricades.

This is some serious, serious endurance. I can easily see why she got into the inner sect if her project is so qi efficient that it can be used for days of use. That is some real talent right there.
 
This is some serious, serious endurance. I can easily see why she got into the inner sect if her project is so qi efficient that it can be used for days of use. That is some real talent right there.
Especially since it was mentioned that the formation still had enough to last for a while without her
"I know your craft well enough to know that they will persist for a few hours without you. The soldiers can hold that long."
 
But even for the 900 rising to the 3rd realm in the inner sect is probably fairly easy, so socially all the common-born are pretty much guaranteed minor titles which makes them our equals. Not sure if inducting them to our clan would be feasible. And we really do need a few minions once we leave the sect. Even the Ma musician is close to the 3rd and earning a title and she's still in the outer sect.
Now I think that given the choice people like the Mas and Nie Ai would probably prefer to be our minions and leave the politicking to us but I'm not sure of the legality of the proposition.
As the interlude shows, perfectly legal to surrender their claim to nobility, as long as no coercion can be proven.

Its a tough sell for a new clan to promise enough resources to be worth the while of a Green though. Its much more plausible to MERGE clans by marrying into a peer who has better prospect, their children would be yours after all, but a Green vassal isn't cheap to pay at any kind of decent market rate.
 
[X] Sharing of historical texts and information. Strengthening the purported cultural ties will go a long way toward mollifying grumbling from more conservative factions in both parties.
 
[X] Sharing of historical texts and information. Strengthening the purported cultural ties will go a long way toward mollifying grumbling from more conservative factions in both parties.
 
And somehow, the idea of just accepting one of the offers to marry into another clan pricked the pride she had. She knew it was silly, but she had earned her rank, giving it up just to be someone's wife was…
Why would she lose her title if she marries into another clan? The title is purely honorary (until she swears fealty to a greater lord and receives some clay), so I don't understand why it would be revoked... Sure, being a landless baroness wouldn't really matter much if she marries into a large, established clan, but that's entirely different thing.
 
Why would she lose her title if she marries into another clan? The title is purely honorary (until she swears fealty to a greater lord and receives some clay), so I don't understand why it would be revoked... Sure, being a landless baroness wouldn't really matter much if she marries into a large, established clan, but that's entirely different thing.
It's not purely honorary, part of the deal with hitting Green young or Cyan at all as a commoner is that it entitles you to land, because the entire point is to integrate those with talent to grow strong enough to cause problems with the system into the system, with the logic being "you don't shit where you eat". Someone who was looking to off a count because he did traditional Xianxia bullshitTM​ is either going to be too busy managing a barony to think of revenge, or too emotionally compromised by having people depend on them for survival to follow through on that revenge.
 
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The rain had not stopped for a week now.

The garden had been churned to muck by the pounding rain and the unpaved paths and roads in the town had become impassable. All industry had shut down as people huddled inside. The immortals were going to war against the barbarians, it was said. The storm was the wrath of the Sect's lord as he marched against their foes. Fields would be ruined, streets and homes damaged, but that was better than suffering under the hands of the Cloud.

The Sects protection had given them many prosperous years, they could suffer one poor one. Besides, folk of the Sect had ensured the harvest was in before they began their march. What was a little winter flooding? Especially when the worst of the water flowed unnaturally out of the town, filling the deep reservoirs that the townsfolk had been frantically digging in place of other labors.

Ling Qingge had to admit, she still did not understand the minds of her neighbors. She almost spilled the tea in her hands as a tremendous boom of thunder shook the window panes, a blinding flash lightning the far silhouettes of the mountains.

"Hoh, that was a big one. I hope Lord Yuan is giving the scum a good drubbing," the elderly woman across from her said. She smiled a toothless smile, peering out the window at the driving rain.

"I pray it is so," Ling Qingge said, holding her cup all the tighter. Even in the warmth of their dining room, the moist chill of the air seemed to penetrate. "Please excuse my nerves, Madam Fong."

The older woman chuckled. "You're excused, Madam Ling. First time experiencing the Lords at work?"

Ling Qingge nodded shallowly. Since her daughter had given her reign over the household, she had begun tentatively reaching out to other households. A lowly woman such as herself could not show her face to true nobles, but here in White Cloud Town, there were many households like her own. The families of disciples who had reached the third realm, as well as the families of soldiers.

Madam Fong was one of these, the Grandmother of an officer in the Sect army, her son had brought her here, and now his son had taken his father's place. Unlike Qingge, the old woman had fully achieved her awakening and others in the district said that she was nearly a hundred years old.

"I've experienced some measure of what my daughter is capable of, but it is not the same," Ling Qingge admitted. It was simply accepted that this terrible storm, spanning the whole region was the work of one man.

"They feel so far above us, but they're just striplings themselves," Madam Fong agreed absently, still watching the rain. "It'll drive you to distraction if you think too hard about it."

"I am not certain how one can avoid doing so," Ling Qingge replied, the wind gusted and the rafters above their heads shook, creaking ominously. If she did not know that Biyu was napping in the 'panic' room her daughter had commissioned, she was sure that she would not be able to sit still at all. Somehow, the expense did not seem so absurd any more.

"It takes practice," Madam Fong said. Light flashed in the sky outside again and the old woman didn't so much as flinch as the house rattled. "Let me thank you again for letting me in. I told that woman last year that she shouldn't have put off reinforcing the roof."

"You're speaking of your late son's wife?" Ling Qingge asked cautiously, happy enough to have a distraction. "Will she be fine in these conditions?"

"She's a realm higher than me, so I'd hope so. That boy didn't choose so badly, but now and then her frugality gets us in trouble. I hear your house has a bit of a problem in the other way though," Madam Fong said thoughtfully, taking up her cup in a trembling hand.

"My daughter is very generous," Ling Qingge allowed. When a member of a ducal clan was coming to their home so regularly, rumors were bound to fly. In this case, the truth had been the best remedy.

"I don't envy you, Madam Ling," the old woman said. "I have enough trouble with my grandson, and the Immortal guests he brings about. Your girl, is it true that she's got the Duchess' ear?"

"She is sworn to her grace's daughter, no more," Ling Qingge replied quickly.

"I see why you worry after your nerves then, Madam Ling," she chuckled.

Ling Qingge sighed, restraining the flinch that tried to come as outside the thunder roared again. "Do you have any wisdom on the matter, Madam Fong."

"Don't think about it," the old woman said pleasantly, savoring her tea. She raised her cup as if to toast as the wind gusted again. She seemed to ignore Ling Qingge's flat look. "If I'm being less pithy Madam, do you go about your day worrying about whether you've offended the spirits?"

"I suppose not, I know the proper rituals well enough and the temple is kind enough to instruct new residents on the local ones," Ling Qingge replied. "I'm not sure your insinuation is correct."

"Isn't it though?" Madam Fong huffed. "We make offerings and obesience, and in return, we get protection, prosperity, and but sometimes…"

She trailed off, gesturing to the storm.
Ling Qingge was silent as well, listening to the wail of the wind and the pounding of the rain. Once, when she had first arrived here, she had christened her daughter a 'little god' in her thoughts. It was a whimsical thing, but sometimes it seemed she was not wrong. In the tales Ling Qi told her and in the things she left out, Ling Qingge had begun to have an idea of just how high the heavens were.

The Sect's mobilization had simply made it obvious.

She hoped that Ling Qi was safe. Her daughter had told her that she was not going to fight, but to meet with some strange foreigners. Was that better, or worse, she wondered. At least if she was fighting, she would be under the protection of her Sect's elders.

"All we can do is pray, for safety, triumph, and homecomings," her guest murmured. "Because even gods can die."

Ling Qingge silently observed the unrelenting storm as thunder boomed again and lightning tore the sky. In her heart she prayed, that her daughter would find her way home again.
 
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