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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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I don't think that there's going to be anything quiet about Qyburn dealing with him. Especially once the maester actually sees him for the first time.
 
Azel said:
Penrose - Lord of Parchments - Surrendered immediately.
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no punishment
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Trant - Lord of Gallowsgrey - Family poisoned by Lord Garret Trant after warning shot was given. Youngest daughter Anna manifested Warlock powers after interaction with the Fury Usizil.
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house will attained and Lord Garret Trant will be hanged as a traitor and a kinslayer
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Rambton - Lord of ??? - Surrendered after warning shot was given.
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will have some land striped away reducing there power
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Sunglass - Lord of Sweetport Sound - Surrendered after warning shot was given.
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will have some land striped away reducing there power
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Follard - Lord of ??? - Surrendered immediately. Contested succession and Maester was hiding invitation to the coronation
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will have the succession settled by the crown but no punishment
Azel said:
Byrch - Lord of Bywater - Household deposed old lord in favor of his son and handed him over as a prisoner.
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the deposition is most certainly illegal but since it was in our favor will only strip some land away
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Templeton - Ser of Nightstar - Ser Symond Templeton, the head of house, died a traitors death in battle at the Bloody Gate.
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house will be attained as disgraced traitors and rebels
 
mmgaballah said:
the deposition is most certainly illegal but since it was in our favor will only strip some land away
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Eeeeeeh... is it? Is it illegal though? I mean, they did unfurl the banner for us (even though it's done in such spontaneous manner). I wouldn't expect them to be given any special treatment (being our Vassal is already special enough). But, shouldn't this act is supposed to be applauded?

Basically, what's the protocol here?
 
Jack vile Ripper said:
Eeeeeeh... is it? Is it illegal though? I mean, they did unfurl the banner for us (even though it's done in such spontaneous manner). I wouldn't expect them to be given any special treatment (being our Vassal is already special enough). But, shouldn't this act is supposed to be applauded?

Basically, what's the protocol here?
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I mean in this case the would be usurper was 7 years old. It's a weird situation.
 
Azel said:
Follard - Lord of ??? - Surrendered immediately. Contested succession and Maester was hiding invitation to the coronation.
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Lord Follard is not a King and therefore cannot legitimize his child. @DragonParadox knew that, but really the only reason this succession is contested is that there are people alive in Follard's household who's best interest is in propping up his bastard as an heir, or the bastard actually had a greater hold on the people there than would seem usual.
 
DragonParadox said:
Suddenly a young girl's scream could be heard above the din of battle. Waymar turned his gaze towards the carriage Ser Godric's young daughter traveled in. To his horror he saw that the Valemen had been forced away from one of the doors and a wildling was dragging the screaming girl away.

Little Cora always so cheerful and curious, full of excitement at finally getting to see Runestone after all the tales Waymar had told her about it... No
Words came to Waymar then, words in the Old Tongue which no Royce of Runestone had spoken in centuries, words of fire and destruction. He uttered them without knowing what he said, without knowing why his hand was outstretched. It just felt right.

A shard of white-hot stone formed just above his palm and streaked towards the clansman that had garbed the girl. His head exploded from the impact in a shower of gore and sparks. Seeing the magic, for what else could you call it, the wildlings broke and ran.

So shocked were the valemen also that none thought to give chase.

What have I done, Waymar thought in mounting dread looking at the suspicious,nay accusing faces of the men around him.
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"The robed fellow is screaming something about demons," Cloud announced, his senses sharper than his rider's. He sounded genuinely bemused as any born beyond the bounds of the world would be. Demons meant something far more specific upon Distant Spheres, a category that could be measured and bounded at least to some degree, to the septon who had showed himself at one of the Keep's windows it meant something else entirely.

"Alright, that was the first plan out the window," Tyene mused. "Hit hat one with a lightning bolt," she called to Waymar.

"What? No, he's just a priest..."

"Who is currently waving around a mace and extolling the knights to slay the foul the demons and witches," she interrupted. "Kill him and the rest of them might reconsider lighting their own pyre."

"We are supposed to offer a warning first," the knight insisted.

"The sept is empty," the Red Woman interjected, her voice somehow carrying perfectly over the wind even without a hint of magic. "It is just wood and stone, but if it were to burn I imagine they would be a touch less certain their gods are with them."

"You can set rocks on fire?" Tyene asked curiously as she circled.

"I can set beings begotten of primordial flame on fire. Yes I can handle a bit of stone," Melisandre of Asshai answered with a smile that reminded Waymar eerily of Viserys.

Once he might have found the notion unimaginable, once he might have objected to the blasphemy, but on this day and in this hour the Waymar knew that he would rather spare lives than the feelings of gods. "Do it," he agreed.

A stream of flame rent the night by the will of the priestess and the might of the Red God. Stone burned like kindling as the Darkenbeasts roared. The setpton faltered...

"Stand! Stand fast against the witchery!" Waymar recognized Ser Symond Templeton, the Knight of Ninestars by his craggy features and pointed beard. His blue eyes burned with unshakable conviction.

Better one life lost than hundreds. Waymar Royce gathered lightning on his fist enough to slay a horned devil or wound an elder wyrm and cast it upon the knight below in a pillar of white that outshone the burning sept as the sun outshines a candle. There was not even ash left, just molten steel pooling on the cobblestones.

Most of the knights surrendered after that. The clansmen would still get their tithe of blood from the handful who lacked even that final shred of sense.
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Tiny Waymar: "Oh no, I used vile sorcery and murdered a clansman!"
Current Waymar: *burns the sept, vaporizes a knight*
 
Crake said:
Lord Follard is not a King and therefore cannot legitimize his child. @DragonParadox knew that, but really the only reason this succession is contested is that there are people alive in Follard's household who's best interest is in propping up his bastard as an heir, or the bastard actually had a greater hold on the people there than would seem usual.
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I'm pretty sure we enable lords to recognize bastards on their own in the Imperium.
 
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Duesal said:
Tiny Waymar: "Oh no, I used vile sorcery and murdered a clansman!"
Current Waymar: *burns the sept, vaporizes a knight*
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Remember that piddly ass little Fire Bolt spell he used to have, the one he killed the clansman with and that a Scholarium Combat Sorcerer would laugh at? Compare that to being able to gank an Adult Red Dragon with the flick of his wrist now...

Things sure have changed in just a few years.
 
Azel said:
I'm pretty sure we enable lords to recognize bastards on their own in the Imperium.
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Good point about our own laws, but I was more talking about in the context of Westerosi law, which makes it pretty clear that only the authority of Kings can make bastards into legitimized heirs.

It was more commentary that there's probably a lot more to this than "the Lord says he's the new Lord, so we'll do what he says". It's never that simple in Westeros.
 
Crake said:
Good point about our own laws, but I was more talking about in the context of Westerosi law, which makes it pretty clear that only the authority of Kings can make bastards into legitimized heirs.
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Yeah. I just wanted to point out that we can claim some legal pretext to rule either way in this matter. They will definitely ask us to sort this out.

I have the impression that the person with the most patriotic feelings towards the Imperium has the best claim.
 
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Interlude MXXIII: Through Mountain and Vale
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    • Through Mountain and Vale ​

    Thirtieth Day of the Fourth Month 294 AC

    It was perhaps not notable that those lords who had made a habit of fence sitting in the troubles and travails of Jon Arryn's succession had no horse in the race to back once the Moonchaser and her sister ships reached them. House Ruthermont of Red Hill, House Waynwood of Ironoaks and House Hardyng of Hearthguard were more than welcoming of Imperial company, indeed they offered apologies for not being able to make it as far as Sorcerer's Deep in the brief time they had available. Would they be swearing to the Imperator? But of course, why would they not? They were loyal bannermen of House Arryn of course, but their hearts had been heavy in the Rebellion. Targaryen was the only true holder of the Iron Throne and of course His Grace King Viserys Third of his name.

    On being informed by a smiling Moonsong that the title was 'His Majesty' and the Vale would likely not be remaining a singular political entity the reputable Lady Anya Waynwood seemed to have abruptly found something that sat ill with her in her food. Doubtless some foreign condiment. Her nephew and by some measure the heir to the Vale looked if anything relieved and set out pestering the bridge staff about all the things the ship could do, all the things they had seen and much more as only a boy of three and ten could do.

    As for the other would-be lords of the Vale Lord Aden Aryn of Gulltown could not be found in the family keep for he had been riding hard to the Eyrie already under Imperial control to stake his claim to the seat. Still, with proof of the Eyrie's capture in the form of the Arryn seal, which Captain Moonsong had taken as a souvenir knowing that the House would likely never have need of it, House Wydman of Windwater and House Elesham of the Paps decided that it would be wiser not to rouse the Dragon's ire and pledged to bend the knee.

    The same could not be said of House Dutton and so the unremarkable market town of Sheepsford became the scene of the first true battle of the War in the Vale, at least in so far as half a hundred praetorians landing directly on the bombarded ramparts of the keep and working their way inwards could be called a war. While there were some wounded among the waves of legionaries who poured through the gate after it had been secured there not one of the Dragon's men died.

    Alas, when the Second Darkenbeast Company and the Griffon Knights struck upon an equally recalcitrant lord at Shrike Hill they had fewer means to actually taking the keep. The Clansmen of the Sons of the Mist claimed they could restrain themselves if ordered to take the place, after all it might be their keep once all was said and done, but Ser Waymar Royce doubted their resolve to keep the harm to only the Lord and his armsmen should they be bloodied.

    Wisdom Melisandre offered to simply step through the walls wrapped in shadows and slay the lord as well as any of his heirs who might share his folly until the rest of the garrison surrendered. While that would doubtless get the job done it would be by far the most viscerally horrifying tactic used this night.

    Lastly they could simply wait for the Moonchaser and her sister ships to arrive here with their Legion detachment, though it would likely still involve bombardment if of a different sort.

    What does Waymar decide?

    [] Bombard the keep and send in the Sons of the Mist

    [] Send in Melisandre to terrify the garrison into surrender

    [] Move on and leave it for the Moonchaser and her sister ships to deal with

    [] Write in

    OOC: No one is responding to hails, so Waymar can't just blast the lord from afar. They are all locked up inside the keep.
     
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    • @DragonParadox, why the deviation from the default plan in Sheepsford? The plan was to burn the keeps of anyone resisting to the ground instead of needlessly risking soldiers to storm them.

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    Stormlands
    Penrose - Lord of Parchments - Surrendered immediately.
    Trant - Lord of Gallowsgrey - Family poisoned by Lord Garret Trant after warning shot was given. Youngest daughter Anna manifested Warlock powers after interaction with the Fury Usizil.

    Crownlands
    Rambton - Lord of ??? - Surrendered after warning shot was given.
    Sunglass - Lord of Sweetport Sound - Surrendered after warning shot was given.
    Follard - Lord of ??? - Surrendered immediately. Contested succession and Maester was hiding invitation to the coronation.
    Byrch - Lord of Bywater - Household deposed old lord in favor of his son and handed him over as a prisoner.

    Vale
    Templeton - Ser of Nightstar - Ser Symond Templeton, the head of house, died a traitors death in battle at the Bloody Gate.
    Ruthermont - Lord of Red Hill - Surrendered immediately.
    Waynwood - Lord of Ironoaks - Surrendered immediately.
    Hardyng - Lord of Hearthguard - Surrendered immediately.
    Aryn of Gulltown - ??? - Currently riding to the Eyrie to claim the place for himself.
    Wydman - Lord of Windwater - Surrendered immediately.
    Elesham - Lord of the Paps - Surrendered immediately.
    Dutton - Lord of Sheepsford - Traitor. Keep shelled and ruins stormed.
    ??? - Lord of Shrike Hill - Traitor. Resisting.
     
    [X] Challenge the Lord to a duel under his own terms. If he should be so cowardly to refuse to accept, challenge the person with nominal command of the garrison under the same terms. If he should not, point out that the next step is to blow up the gate with a lightning bolt, and so help us if we find a dead household...
     
    Azel said:
    @DragonParadox, why the deviation from the default plan in Sheepsford? The plan was to burn the keeps of anyone resisting to the ground instead of needlessly risking soldiers to storm them.
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    I think he's implying that the garrison was so inept once faced with something even a little supernatural (Praetorians) that there was little risk of capturing the place with soldiers and little value beyond stagecraft in emptying cannons on fortifications. So command on the scene decided to order a capture.

    Granted considering no one died they were mostly correct, it's still bad form.
     
    Crake said:
    I think he's implying that the garrison was so inept once faced with something even a little supernatural (Praetorians) that there was little risk of capturing the place with soldiers and little value beyond stagecraft in emptying cannons on fortifications. So command on the scene decided to order a capture.

    Granted considering no one died they were mostly correct, it's still bad form.
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    Keep in mind they also have access to divination so they could ask what the odds of anyone on your side dying were and since the answer was 'very, very low' they went ahead.
     
    [X] Let sappers use some of the Darkenbeasts companies Explosive Packs to blow down the outer walls, then call for surrender again, making it clear that the next step if they refuse is to throw a mix of firebombs and explosives from the Darkenbeasts, which will see the keep reduced to burning rubble.
    -[X] The Darkenbeasts will circle the keep to keep the garrison from interfering with the sappers.
     
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