- Location
- Who knows?
Well makes sense. Too bad we aren't learning more world breaking secrets. Though keeping Qyburn happy is its own reward.
Did we find out what the Mindflayer was?
Watcher creature or something weirder?
Did he just learn the Fiery Burst feat?Samwell, clever student that he was caught on to the nature of the magic at once. "That's not a spell is it?" What Lya did not expect were the next words. "Could you teach me that, please?"
It would not take that long, he was a quick learner and she had no other pressing project for this body this month. "Certainly."
Honestly, teaching him Fiery Burst might actually improve his father's opinion of him.
Seconding this. Due to his temperament, he is much more suited for research or maybe enchanting. We should throw him as an aid to some research projects and see how it goes. Nothing too complicated, since he is low-level, but still.He hasn't been sufficiently traumatized to level further, has he? Poor child.
Honestly, I don't want to power-level him any further. It won't fix any of his issues, and he's got the absolute worst personality for an adventurer.
IIRC (in the books at least) Sam isn't the coward who'll suddenly "man up" and save the day. The Walker-kill was complete luck, and didn't give him an advanturer's madness/courage - and if that wasn't enough, then what could possibly be?
Samwell has got a whole lot of other good qualities, but "able to effectively fight for his life" isn't one.
1. This is easier said then done, unless you want Qyburn to do some personality readjustment on him. Getting over a deeply ingrained fear of a parent is something that people tend to struggle with their whole lives. Though it could help if he gets positive reinforcement while he directly sees and experiences his father being rebuffed for his behaviour.Honestly, teaching him Fiery Burst might actually improve his father's opinion of him.
Lord Tarly has a poor opinion of his son for several reasons:
- Samwell is a coward who doesn't work well in a crisis
- We've seen magic help with that in the past. Once he gets over his crippling fear of [bad things], he can manage. He should either get an item of Remove Fear, or simply change his definitions of [bad things] to, for example, no longer include disappointing his father or being publicly embarrassed or whatever.
- Lord Tarly has zero respect for "pulling tricks out of old books" instead of being able to think of your own
- This... Honestly isn't Samwell's fault. Lord Tarly is just a dumbass. Best solution would be Diplomancy to convince him he's wrong, or perhaps simply letting Samwell repeatedly succeed anyway. Or getting Samwell to stop emphasizing all the elements of his ideas which come from books.
- Samwell isn't good in a fight, and being a strong combatant is important to Lord Tarly and Westerosi Lords in general
- Fiery Burst + the spells a level 5 wizard gets should honestly be enough to make Samwell at least as good as other Lords. Sure he'll never be winning tourneys with it, but it's immediate, unmistakable combat ability. It's not perfect for a Lord (no nonlethal setting to spar with) but it's not bad.
Here's an edited version of the chapter, DP.Wizards' Work
Twenty Third Day of the Fourth Month 294 AC
Lya was not surprised to see Samwell Tarly approach her as she sat on a marble bench under the rustling branches of the Godswood. She knew from Aebys that the boy had been looking for her, but between designing a spell to pull enemies through space and being herself pulled through time, she did not have as much time as she might have preferred, even when all of her was taken into consideration.
What did surprise and perturb her a touch was how pale the boy looked. Oh, he was usually stammering and nervous when he worked up the nerve to approach her, more so than any of Viserys' other wards, but this looked more serious."Is something the matter?" She had gotten better at smalltalk over the years, but part of that process was figuring out when it was more a hindrance than a help.
"My father is coming for the coronation," he blurted out.
Lya did not ask what was the matter with that. Anyone with working eyes and ears in the keep knew what was the matter with Randyl Tarly where his son was concerned. "I'm sure he will be pleased to hear about how you have been progressing in your studies," she replied diplomatically.
Alas, the boy was having none of it. "Will he now? I'll show him all the pages I've written in my grimoire, more than half with spells that couldn't hurt a fly..."
His voice was not so much fearful or wary as hollow, defeated, and that angered Lya most of all. Since she could not very well turn the lord of Horn Hill into a toad, she instead conjured a piece of parchment from an enchanted bag along with a stylus she rarely used and sketched out a few lines of spell-script before handing them to him. "Do you know what that is?"
"A... light spell?" He spoke slowly as if expecting a trick question.
"A barely functional light spell patched together from old scrolls and guesswork," she confirmed. "Also the first piece of magic I ever did about four and a half years ago." As his eyes widened in disbelief she continued sternly, for she knew sympathy alone would not get through. "Mages like us don't get to pick our spells out of some cosmic armory, Samwell. We don't get to dive into a sea of souls and memories, and we do not get to ask the gods for boons of knowledge. What we get to do is learn to turn the gears of reality to our will, smallest to greatest. If your father proves himself less than impressed by your progress when he arrives, send him to me and I'll show him what wonders sorcery can weave."
The boy's shock gave way to a slightly trembling smile. "That's alright, Wisdom. I... er, don't want you to turn him into a toad." As the words slipped out of him mouth he seemed shocked by his own daring.
"I didn't mean that," Lya half-lied. She had not meant it seriously, at least. "I could take him to the front in Sarnor and blast some of the maddened dead. It's not really my forte, but..." She conjured a flash of white hot flame above her left palm. "I can do it."
Samwell, clever student that he was, caught on to the nature of the magic at once. "That's not a spell, is it?" What Lya did not expect were the next words. "Could you teach me that, please?"
It would not take that long, he was a quick learner and she had no other pressing project for this body this month. "Certainly."
OOC: Help, the interlude ambushed me. It's fun to be able to say that again. I rolled up Sam's studies for the past few months and he crit hard enough to hit the soft cap, level 5... and he still thinks he is not good enough. Previous vote still open. Not yet edited.
Wait, Zherys is very much a "scary older person", even if Sam sees his father verbally flayed by Zherys, it absolutly won't help his underlying fears, only add Zherys to the list of things to be afraid of.We should arrange for Zherys to be present when Sam and Randyll meet again.
Not the point. There are two options:Wait, Zherys is very much a "scary older person", even if Sam sees his father verbally flayed by Zherys, it absolutly won't help his underlying fears, only add Zherys to the list of things to be afraid of.
Samwell is young and highly intelligent. As a 5th level Wizard at 11 years old, he's got decades ahead of him to learn. If he never progresses further, his future is already secure as both the heir of a prosperous bit of land and a mage in the new order we've established. It also doesn't hurt to have friends in high places, and he's certainly got that covered.Honestly, teaching him Fiery Burst might actually improve his father's opinion of him.
Lord Tarly has a poor opinion of his son for several reasons:
- Samwell is a coward who doesn't work well in a crisis
- We've seen magic help with that in the past. Once he gets over his crippling fear of [bad things], he can manage. He should either get an item of Remove Fear, or simply change his definitions of [bad things] to, for example, no longer include disappointing his father or being publicly embarrassed or whatever.
- Lord Tarly has zero respect for "pulling tricks out of old books" instead of being able to think of your own
- This... Honestly isn't Samwell's fault. Lord Tarly is just a dumbass. Best solution would be Diplomancy to convince him he's wrong, or perhaps simply letting Samwell repeatedly succeed anyway. Or getting Samwell to stop emphasizing all the elements of his ideas which come from books.
- Samwell isn't good in a fight, and being a strong combatant is important to Lord Tarly and Westerosi Lords in general
- Fiery Burst + the spells a level 5 wizard gets should honestly be enough to make Samwell at least as good as other Lords. Sure he'll never be winning tourneys with it, but it's immediate, unmistakable combat ability. It's not perfect for a Lord (no nonlethal setting to spar with) but it's not bad.
I don't think there are many people less suited to interacting with Sam then Qyburn.Now if only we could combine the two updates... making Qyburn Samwell's new father figure?
Sam is at level 5 already? Am I the only person considering making him an Inquisitor? He is already almost qualified level wise and he is someone we could trust with the position. Maybe in a few years? We could have him apprentice with a more established one to learn the ropes?
Edit: Also he is worried about that not being enough for his dad? 5th level is when you get 3rd level spells! That is when you get my favorite spell. explosive runes! Their is no problem you can't solve with explosive runes!