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Wait, the forest extends up the mountainside? To whatever the there-local tree line is?
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SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
The chance of it bad ending the game is not small, it's significant.
It does.
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So even if we made it through, we'd be stumbling/flitting around in a forest, looking for a way in (hopefully) relayed to us by people who've never been here from records two centuries of KickFlipping ago?
Guile
Having a really great time right now
8" on tabletop is 16 yards 'in game', right? 'Catch' was hyperbole, but he's also located somewhere in a forest ringing the biggest dwarven fortress in the north and an actual mountain. It's a big forest.
We don't have any hard numbers on chances, SSS.
SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
Yes, we have no idea where the entrances are.
I'm pretty sure the chance is greater than 5%, that's significant to my mind.
His turn you into a chaos spawn via using magic aura effects the entire battlefield no matter the size you make it in TT, obviously there's some limit in the lore but it's going to be hundreds of meters radius not tens.
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pucflek
Verified simpleton
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Yeah seriously just. There is a difference between trying something risky and going full Leeroy Jenkins, and casting anywhere within the range of Morghur, pacified, fake or whatever, is just the worst kind of idea. We cannot determine the range of this effect and we don't know if whatever it actually is even has this effect, but i would really, really rather not.
That's not really the reassuring argument you might think it is, you know?
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- Void
This is reliant on the fact that firstly this is actually Shadowgrave, and secondly that his capabilities work given that Borek's initial survival lends doubt toward.
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- Philippines
We are assuming that Morghur is not sentient and can't be diplomance,
I would agree with sneaking in if Morghur is not sentient, and there is no one to diplomance, but we haven't try diplomacy yet with the forest, we have to try to see if the order align beastmen are sentient enough to talk to.
We could also go beyond the border of Karag Dum use a matrix on a inanimate object, release spell and see what happens.
I would agree with sneaking in if Morghur is not sentient, and there is no one to diplomance, but we haven't try diplomacy yet with the forest, we have to try to see if the order align beastmen are sentient enough to talk to.
We could also go beyond the border of Karag Dum use a matrix on a inanimate object, release spell and see what happens.
Yeah well I would rather not risk chaos spawnhood on the basis of one counter-example.
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Voting to take a risk one acknowledges as a (horrific)-game-ender for everyone... I know I'm on the risk averse end of the voter spectrum, but I gotta say I feel some kind of way about that.
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SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
There's a whole host of other posibilities you're not considering which means that Borek not being mutated doesn't mean the field doesn't exist.
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- Austria
Right, I am mildly more tempted to leave and return later with Cython and some other research buddies, but not yet. There are still some genuinely safe (well, safer than road to here was, rip Gotrek) options we can try that should net useful data.
[X] Fortify here and see if anything interesting happens over the next day
[X] Approach the Kvellige camp peacefully and attempt to discuss the Karak with them
[X] Approach the Kul camp peacefully and attempt to discuss the Karak with them
Most interesting for us here and now is the question of "Will any tribal casters explode into Spawn on cast?" or observing any other Chaos effects around Morghur.
If Morghur does not do Chaos effects, it's certainly vital data.
[X] Fortify here and see if anything interesting happens over the next day
[X] Approach the Kvellige camp peacefully and attempt to discuss the Karak with them
[X] Approach the Kul camp peacefully and attempt to discuss the Karak with them
Most interesting for us here and now is the question of "Will any tribal casters explode into Spawn on cast?" or observing any other Chaos effects around Morghur.
If Morghur does not do Chaos effects, it's certainly vital data.
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Romv
A Memory of TREES
@BoneyM
Did we see Corey Dum-dum move into the desert? Or did he stay (let's say with both feet) just inside the forest's border?
Can we clearly see the border between the desert and the forest? If so, just how abrupt is the transition, are there indents where the forest grows into the desert, or the desert into the forest?
The heat shimmer, is it present even without someone disturbing the air? And if so, is it as you'd expect in a normal desert?
Did we see Corey Dum-dum move into the desert? Or did he stay (let's say with both feet) just inside the forest's border?
Can we clearly see the border between the desert and the forest? If so, just how abrupt is the transition, are there indents where the forest grows into the desert, or the desert into the forest?
The heat shimmer, is it present even without someone disturbing the air? And if so, is it as you'd expect in a normal desert?
Borek had infinite money and he needed 200 years to get this expedition. If we leave we aren't coming back.
He was in the desert at first.
Abrupt. More details than that can't be seen at this distance.
Yes and yes.
Sovereign Hunt
A Concentric Circle
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Not caught up to the thread yet, but uh, no? We are ironically in the safest place in the Deep Chaos Wastes right now (past the Dhar border, at least). As per Word of Boney, the current rate of Dhar contamination we're taking through our protections is barely worse than Stirland, and that's without taking Karag Dum's anti-Dhar bubble into account. We'll be able to see any threat coming for miles, and Cor-Dum is a far more tempting target to the kind of people we might expect to run into out here regardless. And we'll only be staying for one more day, when we've already spent a week in the Wastes basically without incident. Staying for one more day isn't any more dangerous than any other portion of this trip since Vlag.
I'm not in favor of trying to sneak into the Karag or anything that suicidal, but staying the night here isn't nearly as dangerous as you believe it to be. It's worth the risk.
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But the thing is all the Shadowgrave does is make Reality, or rather the Winds that can affect Reality used by Wizards, more unstable when in the Wastes it is already unstable. Now if the ability to mutate things rapidly by merely being around them is connected to that we didn't see signs of immediate mutation nor distress/discomfort by Borek, and combine that with the fact that none of the Trees seem notably mutated. As they should be if used regularly by the Beastmen. It suggests that whatever is going on here affects Reality to the point where Morghur's own capability is weakened greatly or nulled.
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[X] Approach the Kul camp peacefully and attempt to discuss the Karak with them
[X] Approach the Kvellige camp peacefully and attempt to discuss the Karak with them
[X] Attempt to approach Morghur to see if he can be communicated with
[X] Attempt to infiltrate the Karak with magic
[X] Attempt to infiltrate the Karak without magic
[X] Fortify here and see if anything interesting happens over the next day
[X] Approach the Kvellige camp peacefully and attempt to discuss the Karak with them
[X] Attempt to approach Morghur to see if he can be communicated with
[X] Attempt to infiltrate the Karak with magic
[X] Attempt to infiltrate the Karak without magic
[X] Fortify here and see if anything interesting happens over the next day
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- Aotearoa
Lower rates of Dhar exposure is still increasing your Dhar exposure, but still. There other dangers.
If they don't, we'd have waited around in the wastes longer for nothing, losing credibility yes, but more importantly putting people at risk.
Talking to a tribe is at least an active course of action.
It's very passive, though, and relies on some warband deciding that this is the moment to attack Cor Dum.
If they don't, we'd have waited around in the wastes longer for nothing, losing credibility yes, but more importantly putting people at risk.
Talking to a tribe is at least an active course of action.
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I'm not too sure about that, according to the WHF books (i.e. tome of salvation) regarding Ranald, he really doesnt like violence and killing as the solution. Its even in his sacred rules