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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Well, if an archmaester died this way he likely deserved it since clearly he wasn't smart enough to keep his position.

Considering what we have encountered should we now focus on looking into the Citadel Conspiracy now? We do have all those letters and stuff we can scry to hopefully get something.
 
DragonParadox said:
This time when she reaches for the threads of time you are ready, but you do not stop her, distracted by another feeling, familiar yet strange. S song at the edge of hearing, a tale in the realm of tales grown. The irony of the Citadel's conspiracy offering you the gift of the mad dragon's defeat does not escape you.

Mythic Rank Gained

What next?

[] Write in Mythic Rank Plan

OOC: You guys did beat a CR 23 dragon and four CR 16 fey with one spell, that in addition to your part of the Fall of the Court of Stars pushed you over the edge. Not yet edited.
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Oh.

Oh.

Oh, I didn't see that one coming!

@everyone, this would be our fourth Mythic Rank, correct? And didn't we have greenlight from DP that the moment we announce ourself as Imperator we would attain yet another Mythic Rank?

We're gonna be Lvl. 18/MR 5 by the end of the month.

I... I have no words.
 
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[X] Restore the Archmaester's body via a Miracle. Question it with Speak to Dead to corroborate the story you received.
-[X] Before questioning, set up a Mindblank-ward around the corpse, so as to not ping any Divination by the corpse revealing the knowledge of the Conspiracy members and such.
-[X] Learn what items he had on himself, and then use Miracle again to restore those.
-[X] Establish a connection to either Marwyn or Qyburn, have them take part in asking the maester for anything of use in their task of infiltrating the Citadel.
-[X] Meanwhile, while the corpse is being questioned, have the rest of the group move in to try and loot whatever of worth there is in Jabberwocky's territory. Just in case.

Meanwhile, this chapter seems to show that we shouldn't be scared of the Pathfinder's Jaberwocky-making Super!Fey.
I think that changes our priorities on it a bit, makes it less crucial to do anything about it quickly for sure.
 
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I've claimed all within my sight
To loot what's there, this is my right!
-Orange Lantern Viserys, probably.

Miracle is about bullshit enough to time-reverse the destruction of whatever items he had on him. Bwhahaha.
 
One Autumn Leaf said:
So we have the corpse of a member of the conspiracy. He probably knows who else is in said conspiracy.
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Good point.
I'm adding "put a Mindblank-ward around the corpse while it's questioned and store it in the cloak afterwards" to not ping any Divination-alarms off the Conspiracy members being revealed.
Just to be sure.
The guys are probably aware the poor fuck's ded (if anyone would use ded-detectors that'd be them, methinks), better not give them an idea someone's learning their secrets from him already.
 
Here's what I've got for Visreys' new Mythic rank. @egoo, I've included your vote in my plan.

I'm not really excited about Elemental Bond, but I agreed that we would pick it up on the next Mythic rank when I argued for us to acquire Component Freedom first. If ya'll want something other than Elemental Bond, I would prefer Resilient Arcana because it makes it much harder for Viserys' spells to be Dispelled, a common tactic we ourselves use regularly and have had used against us.
Resilient Arcana (Su): Your spells and effects become more difficult to identify and dispel. Add your tier to the DC of any checks to identify your spells, recognize them as they are being cast, or Dispel them using Dispel Magic or similar effects.
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As for the new Mythic spell, I'm advocating for Blood Wish, if that's acceptable to @DragonParadox. All I did was include the additional information from Pathfinder's Mythic Limited Wish without changing anything other than the name of the spell and removing references to prepared spellcasters.

Wild Arcana lets us duplicate just about any spell we want to use, but it cannot duplicate Mythic versions of those spells. Mythic Blood Wish would let us do that with spells of 6th level and lower, which is really nice. There are a lot of Mythic spells with really awesome effects, such as Mythic Contingency, which would let Viserys have three Contingency spells active simultaneously (increasing as his Mythic Tier rises) rather than just one.

Even better, Viserys would be able to cast Mythic Blood Wish in almost any condition, limited only to being unconscious or in the round following a Celerity spell. That means even if he were Stunned or Nauseated, conditions which normally prevent spellcasting, he could still use the spell as normal. That could be a huge life saver.

[X] Viserys' 4th Mythic Rank
-[X] Attribute Increase: +2 Charisma
-[X] Path Ability:
--[X] Elemental Bond [Fire]: You are connected to the Elemental Plane of Fire. Whenever you cast a spell with the Fire descriptor, add your Mythic tier to your caster level for that spell.
-[X] Mythic Spell: Mythic Blood Wish
Blood Wish
Universal
Level: Sorcerer 7 (Dragonblooded only)
Components: V, S, See Text
Casting Time: 1 standard action
Range: See text
Target: See text
Duration: See text
Saving Throw: None; see text
Spell Resistance: Yes

A Blood Wish lets you create nearly any type of effect.
For example, a Blood Wish can do any of the following things.
  • Duplicate any sorcerer/wizard spell of 6th level or lower, provided the spell is not of a school prohibited to you.
  • Duplicate any other spell of 5th level or lower, provided the spell is not of a school prohibited to you.
  • Duplicate any sorcerer/wizard spell of 5th level or lower, even if it's of a prohibited school.
  • Duplicate any other spell of 4th level or lower, even if it's of a prohibited school.
  • Undo the harmful effects of many spells, such as geas/quest or insanity.
  • Produce any other effect whose power level is in line with the above effects, such as a single creature automatically hitting on its next attack or taking a -7 penalty on its next saving throw.
A duplicated spell allows saving throws and spell resistance as normal (but the save DC is for a 7th-level spell). When a Blood Wish duplicates a spell that has an XP cost, you must pay that cost or 300 XP, whichever is more. When a Blood Wish spell duplicates a spell with a material component that costs more than 1,000 gp, you must provide that component.

Special: Each use of Blood Wish causes 1 point of temporary Charisma damage to the caster.

Mythic: When using Mythic Blood Wish to duplicate another spell, you can duplicate a Mythic spell you know. If you don't know the Mythic spell, you can expend a second use of Mythic power to duplicate the Mythic version of the desired spell.
  • Augment: If you expend two uses of mythic power, you can cast a Silent, Stilled Mythic Blood Wish, even if you're helpless or couldn't otherwise take actions (but not unconscious).
[X] Restore the Archmaester's body via a Miracle. Question it with Speak to Dead to corroborate the story you received.
-[X] Before questioning, set up a Mindblank-ward around the corpse, so as to not ping any Divination by the corpse revealing the knowledge of the Conspiracy members and such.
-[X] Learn what items he had on himself, and then use Miracle again to restore those.
-[X] Establish a connection to either Marwyn or Qyburn, have them take part in asking the maester for anything of use in their task of infiltrating the Citadel.
-[X] Meanwhile, while the corpse is being questioned, have the rest of the group move in to try and loot whatever of worth there is in Jabberwocky's territory. Just in case.
 
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@Goldfish, if casting a Mythic Bloodwish costs MP uses, why would we ever do that when we could copy a Miracle instead via the same pool?

I don't think Bloodwish's a good spell to get a Mythic version of for us.
What are our alternatives?

Also, I edited my plan a little since:
egoo said:
[X] Restore the Archmaester's body via a Miracle. Question it with Speak to Dead to corroborate the story you received.
-[X] Before questioning, set up a Mindblank-ward around the corpse, so as to not ping any Divination by the corpse revealing the knowledge of the Conspiracy members and such.
-[X] Learn what items he had on himself, and then use Miracle again to restore those.
-[X] Establish a connection to either Marwyn or Qyburn, have them take part in asking the maester for anything of use in their task of infiltrating the Citadel.
-[X] Meanwhile, while the corpse is being questioned, have the rest of the group move in to try and loot whatever of worth there is in Jabberwocky's territory. Just in case.
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Just some paranoia and other order of sentences.

[X] Goldfish
 
silvanknight said:
Mythic Miracle might work too
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There isn't one by rules-as-written for a reason.
Miracle is "long as DM doesn't mind, I can do this"-spell.
It has no clear boundaries on the effect.
Ergo, no good way to measure how Mythic would affect it, unlike, say, the cheese that is Timesto(m)p.

It's not like DP could quantify how much he allows something to be done with a Miracle and then also quantify how Mythic version would be higher in 'numbers'.
 
egoo said:
@Goldfish, if casting a Mythic Bloodwish costs MP uses, why would we ever do that when we could copy a Miracle instead via the same pool?

I don't think Bloodwish's a good spell to get a Mythic version of for us.
What are our alternatives?

Also, I edited my plan a little since:

Just some paranoia and other order of sentences.

[X] Goldfish
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Add the updates to my plan.

Mythic Blood Wish isn't about duplicating regular spells, but duplicating Mythic spells (6th level and lower Arcane, 5th level and lower Divine), as I explained in my previous post. Miracle and Wild Arcana cannot do that. It can also be used when Viserys has been Stun, Nauseated, etc., conditions which normally preventing spellcasting.
silvanknight said:
Mythic Miracle might work too
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I'm pretty sure there isn't a Mythic version of Miracle in Pathfinder because that would be too powerful. Miracle can be used to recreate so many spell effects without any cost, a Mythic Version, assuming it functioned like Mythic Wish in this regard, would be able to duplicate almost every Mythic spell, even most of the higher level and more powerful ones. And if it worked differently, we would have to come up with the parameters. It's already powerful enough, IMO, without further tinkering with it.
 
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