Tbh the new info on Lanna makes sense. Theres no way a lv 15+ full caster would let some Aristocrat walk all over her. Tywin should have been dancing to her tune literal years ago, via spells or just higher social stats.
 
The plot thread is still there, it's just the information source that dead ended.

Oh, I know. Not like Lana's going anywhere(unless you're thinking of giving her the Aberi treatment). But this is like the first time that we've found a Winter Fey that we could have possibly swayed to our side, and losing out on that narrative potential hurts more than whatever is going on with Lana. It's that plot thread I mourn, and it don't help that we didn't get a whit out of it.
 
He's getting the best custom-built body an uncle could ask for.

And a dragon just for him.
So we are building him a dragon body? Because that's certainly the best body we can build, and as a Targaryan he should be able to handle being a dragon, or are you planning to limit him, to the best human body an uncle could ask for.
 
So we are building him a dragon body? Because that's certainly the best body we can build, and as a Targaryan he should be able to handle being a dragon, or are you planning to limit him, to the best human body an uncle could ask for.
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tarrangar, I don't know how many times I can respond to this the same way. I am opposed to this idea for Aemon, and I am opposed to this for Bloodraven. Randomly bringing it up every chance you get isn't going to convince me, it just irritates me. This is well beyond beating a dead horse, this is going to the afterlife and beating its soul.
 
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tarrangar, I don't know how many times I can respond to this the same way. I am opposed to this idea for Aemon, and I am opposed to this for Bloodraven. Randomly bringing it up every chance you get isn't going to convince me, it just irritates me. This is well beyond beating a dead horse, this is going to the afterlife and beating its soul.
I was just pointing out that dragon is the best body we can build, it's not like it have to be Red Dragon, Bloodraven would fit in very well as a Myrkdrekki, letting our family become the kinds of dragons we can make in the Flesh Forge, don't lessen our PRC in my opinion.
 
Gerion better be under compulsion spells too or I'm going to be supremely disappointed.

[X] Crake
Watch the Spell-turning crown that Lanna got from that Other barrow in the Westerlands be some kind of mind-controlling device. All this time she's been a puppet of the Others.
I was just pointing out that dragon is the best body we can build, it's not like it have to be Red Dragon, Bloodraven would fit in very well as a Myrkdrekki, letting our family become the kinds of dragons we can make in the Flesh Forge, don't lessen our PRC in my opinion.
At a certain stage you've got to accept it's a conversation I'm just not interested in having. We have diametrically opposed views to what should be done here. That isn't going to change. This whole thing goes in a big circle the same way every time. I can't police your speech, but there's no way you aren't aware of my views here. I don't know what you're trying to achieve by periodically bringing this up to me.
 
It was Tywin obviously. He probably used the mages Lanna enthralled on his behalf to find a method to control her in turn, just to maximize the poetic irony.
 
[X] Arrange for proof of Cersei Lannister arranging the assassination of Robert Baratheon be given over to Eddard Stark, provide further explanation of the evidence delivered to Winterfell by the Inquisition should it be requested without revealing the source of this information (Brynden), only what is necessary to confirm it beyond all shadow of a doubt.
-[X] Alongside the following proclamations meant for those Lords who have already informally affirmed their oaths of loyalty, implying that Viserys considers Lord Stark not only trustworthy but close enough to being caught in a case of fait accompli, either forced to declare himself an independent realm or swear himself to the Dragon Banner henceforth. This way any serious discussion can take place face to face, but he is capable of making an informed choice and avoid making a decision he cannot possibly take back. Should he still not attend, judgement is implied to still be withheld and dispensed under no authority barring that of Viserys himself. Which implies things. A lot of things, considering the rather perfunctory treatment Tywin and the others got.

[X] Preface: In General
-[X] "It is with a heavy heart that I make this my first official address to you, Lord Stark/Royce/Tyrell/Hightower/Florent/Tarly/Velaryon... etc."
--[X] "I, Viserys Targaryen, by birthright, by oath solemnly given in the vein of fealty for protection, and by dire necessity, do claim dominion over Westeros in the name of House Targaryen."
---[X] "Although it has been that sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof that Westeros has lived by for ten long years, that time is no longer. Justice will be served in accordance to the laws of the realm."

[X] To the Sworn Lords of the Crownlands and Narrow Sea
-[X] For the unwavering support of their Liege and House Targaryen, House Velaryon of Driftmark are to be rewarded as deemed appropriate by the Crown for loyalty beyond measure.
--[X] All lands unlawfully stripped from Houses by decree of their Overlord of that time, Lord Robert Baratheon, for supporting their Liege and House Targaryen, are to be returned to the original title holders, as their revocation was in of itself an unlawful act.
---[X] Additionally, all taxes and revenues collected from these properties from the time of seizure to their forfeiture will be assayed and distributed as is appropriate by the Crown, to the original title holders. Should resources or currency in equivalent value to those originally assessed not be paid within a reasonable time frame, the Crown will determine cause for delay in a private hearing between itself and the defaulting party and arbitrate accordingly.
----[X] Viserys' personal seal stamped in arcane fire, along with a formal invitation to the Coronation of their rightful Liege, Viserys Targaryen and promises of safe passage assured by the Armed Forces of the Imperium.

[X] To the Sworn Lords of the Vale
-[X] For the unlawful rebellion against their Liege and House Targaryen, the Wardenship of the East is hereby revoked from House Arryn, henceforth retained by the Crown to be dispensed or dissolved as it sees fit.
--[X] Furthermore , House Arryn stands accused of committing the crime of High Treason, and are to be declared an enemy of the Crown unless they should submit to its lawful authority posthaste to stand judgement. Any and all who would knowingly stand in their defense are to be treated in accordance with the law.
---[X] All lands unlawfully stripped from Houses by decree of their Overlord of that time, Lord Jon Arryn, for supporting their Liege and House Targaryen, are to be returned to the original title holders, as their revocation was in of itself an unlawful act.
----[X] Additionally, all taxes and revenues collected from these properties from the time of seizure to their forfeiture will be assayed and distributed as is appropriate by the Crown, to the original title holders. Should resources or currency in equivalent value to those originally assessed not be paid within a reasonable time frame, the Crown will determine cause for delay in a private hearing between itself and the defaulting party and arbitrate accordingly.
-----[X] As the known Traitor, Jon Arryn, is currently deceased, judgement of House Arryn is to be placed on hold until a complete cessation of hostilities has occurred in the Western Provinces, or until such a time that charges might be levied or clemency might be granted. All who refuse to submit to the lawful judgement of the Crown shall be considered enemies of the Realm, and treated accordingly.
-----[X] Finally, Viserys' personal seal stamped in arcane fire, along with a formal invitation to the Coronation of their rightful Liege, Viserys Targaryen and promises of safe passage assured by the Armed Forces of the Imperium.

[X] To the Sworn Lords of the Riverlands
-[X] For the unlawful rebellion against their Liege and House Targaryen, the Lord Paramouncy of the Trident has been revoked, henceforth retained by the Crown to be dispensed or dissolved as it sees fit.
--[X] Furthermore , House Tully stands accused of committing the crime of High Treason, and are to be declared an enemy of the Crown unless they should submit to its lawful authority posthaste to stand judgement. Any and all who would knowingly stand in their defense are to be treated in accordance with the law.
---[X] All lands unlawfully stripped from Houses by decree of their Overlord of that time, Lord Hoster Tully, for supporting their Liege and House Targaryen, are to be returned to the original title holders, as their revocation was in of itself an unlawful act.
----[X] Additionally, all taxes and revenues collected from these properties from the time of seizure to their forfeiture will be assayed and distributed as is appropriate by the Crown, to the original title holders. Should resources or currency in equivalent value to those originally assessed not be paid within a reasonable time frame, the Crown will determine cause for delay in a private hearing between itself and the defaulting party and arbitrate accordingly.
-----[X] Finally, Viserys' personal seal stamped in arcane fire, along with a formal invitation to the Coronation of their rightful Liege, Viserys Targaryen and promises of safe passage assured by the Armed Forces of the Imperium.

[X] To the Sworn Lords of the North:
-[X] Conspicuously absent. The only thing here is Viserys' personal seal stamped in arcane fire, and document forbearing judgement in absentia of the current Overlord of the North, Eddard Stark, along with a formal invitation to the Coronation of their rightful Liege, Viserys Targaryen and promises of safe passage assured by the Armed Forces of the Imperium.

[X] To Lord Harlaw:
-[X] Assurances of continued support for both House Harlaw and Lady Asha Greyjoy by the Crown.
--[X] Additionally, Viserys' personal seal stamped in arcane fire, along with a formal invitation to the Coronation of their rightful Liege, Viserys Targaryen and promises of safe passage assured by the Armed Forces of the Imperium.

[X] To the Sworn Lords of the Stormlands
-[X] All lands unlawfully stripped from Houses by decree of their Overlord of that time, Lord Robert Baratheon, for supporting their Liege and House Targaryen, are to be returned to the original title holders, as their revocation was in of itself an unlawful act.
--[X] Additionally, all taxes and revenues collected from these properties from the time of seizure to their forfeiture will be assayed and distributed as is appropriate by the Crown, to the original title holders. Should resources or currency in equivalent value to those originally assessed not be paid within a reasonable time frame, the Crown will determine cause for delay in a private hearing between itself and the defaulting party and arbitrate accordingly.
---[X] Finally, Viserys' personal seal stamped in arcane fire, along with a formal invitation to the Coronation of their rightful Liege, Viserys Targaryen and promises of safe passage assured by the Armed Forces of the Imperium.

[X] To the Sworn Lords of the Reach
-[X] Conspicuously absent. The only thing here is Viserys' personal seal stamped in arcane fire, along with a formal invitation to the Coronation of their rightful Liege, Viserys Targaryen and promises of safe passage assured by the Armed Forces of the Imperium.

[X] To the Principality of Dorne
-[X] For the unwavering support of their Liege and House Targaryen, House Nymeros-Martell of Dorne are to be rewarded as deemed appropriate by the Crown for loyalty beyond measure.
--[X] Viserys' personal seal stamped in arcane fire, along with a formal invitation to the Coronation of their rightful Liege, Viserys Targaryen and promises of safe passage assured by the Armed Forces of the Imperium.

[X] In General
-[X] For the unlawful rebellion against their Liege and House Targaryen, and furthermore for the numerous atrocities committed by the incumbent Overlord at the time of the Usurper's War, Tywin Lannister, House Lannister is hereby attainted for the crime of High Treason, furthermore, guilty of the most heinous crime of regicide, as well as facilitating the vile slaughter of Prince Aegon Targaryen, Princess Rhaenys Targaryen and Princess Elia Martell through the auspices of Ser Gregor Clegane and Ser Amory Lorch. Furthermore, the Wardenship of the West is hereby revoked, to be dispensed or dissolved by the Crown as it sees fit.
--[X] Furthermore, no document, written in any official capacity by a submitting party, will be recognized by the Crown or its institutions, should it bear mention of the attainted House in question.
---[X] In addition, the title to Casterly Rock and all intendant lands or vassals, is hereby revoked from [attainted House], to be held in perpetuity by the Crown, to be garrisoned or bestowed as it sees fit.
----[X] Tywin, of attainted House, has been passed over for preliminary hearing, as his guilt has been determined without question, and has hereby been sentenced to die, for various crimes and numerous atrocities committed before, during, in or after time of the Usurper's War.

[X] "In my name alone," for the last time,
-[X] Viserys Targaryen
 
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[X] Arrange for proof of Cersei Lannister arranging the assassination of Robert Baratheon be given over to Eddard Stark, provide further explanation of the evidence delivered to Winterfell by the Inquisition should it be requested without revealing the source of this information (Brynden), only what is necessary to confirm it beyond all shadow of a doubt.
-[X] Alongside the following proclamations meant for those Lords who have already informally affirmed their oaths of loyalty, implying that Viserys considers Lord Stark not only trustworthy but close enough to being caught in a case of fait accompli, either forced to declare himself an independent realm or swear himself to the Dragon Banner henceforth. This way any serious discussion can take place face to face, but he is capable of making an informed choice and avoid making a decision he cannot possibly take back. Should he still not attend, judgement is implied to still be withheld and dispensed under no authority barring that of Viserys himself. Which implies things. A lot of things, considering the rather perfunctory treatment Tywin and the others got.

[X] Preface: In General
-[X] "It is with a heavy heart that I make this my first official address to you, Lord Stark/Royce/Tyrell/Hightower/Florent/Tarly/Velaryon... etc."
--[X] "I, Viserys Targaryen, by birthright, by oath solemnly given in the vein of fealty for protection, and by dire necessity, do claim dominion over Westeros in the name of House Targaryen."
---[X] "Although it has been that sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof that Westeros has lived by for ten long years, that time is no longer. Justice will be served in accordance to the laws of the realm."

[X] To the Sworn Lords of the Vale
-[X] For the unlawful rebellion against their Liege and House Targaryen, the Wardenship of the East is hereby revoked from House Arryn, henceforth retained by the Crown to be dispensed or dissolved as it sees fit.
--[X] Furthermore , House Arryn stands accused of committing the crime of High Treason, and are to be declared an enemy of the Crown unless they should submit to its lawful authority posthaste to stand judgement. Any and all who would knowingly stand in their defense are to be treated in accordance with the law.
---[X] All lands unlawfully stripped from Houses by decree of their Overlord of that time, Lord Jon Arryn, for supporting their Liege and House Targaryen, are to be returned to the original title holders, as their revocation was in of itself an unlawful act.
----[X] Additionally, all taxes and revenues collected from these properties from the time of seizure to their forfeiture will be assayed and distributed as is appropriate by the Crown, to the original title holders. Should resources or currency in equivalent value to those originally assessed not be paid within a reasonable time frame, the Crown will determine cause for delay in a private hearing between itself and the defaulting party and arbitrate accordingly.
-----[X] As the known Traitor, Jon Arryn, is currently deceased, judgement of House Arryn is to be placed on hold until a complete cessation of hostilities has occurred in the Western Provinces, or until such a time that charges might be levied or clemency might be granted. All who refuse to submit to the lawful judgement of the Crown shall be considered enemies of the Realm, and treated accordingly.
-----[X] Finally, Viserys' personal seal stamped in arcane fire, along with a formal invitation to the Coronation of their rightful Liege, Viserys Targaryen and promises of safe passage assured by the Armed Force of the Imperium.

[X] To the Sworn Lords of the Riverlands
-[X] For the unlawful rebellion against their Liege and House Targaryen, the Lord Paramouncy of the Trident has been revoked, henceforth retained by the Crown to be dispensed or dissolved as it sees fit.
--[X] Furthermore , House Tully stands accused of committing the crime of High Treason, and are to be declared an enemy of the Crown unless they should submit to its lawful authority posthaste to stand judgement. Any and all who would knowingly stand in their defense are to be treated in accordance with the law.
---[X] All lands unlawfully stripped from Houses by decree of their Overlord of that time, Lord Hoster Tully, for supporting their Liege and House Targaryen, are to be returned to the original title holders, as their revocation was in of itself an unlawful act.
----[X] Additionally, all taxes and revenues collected from these properties from the time of seizure to their forfeiture will be assayed and distributed as is appropriate by the Crown, to the original title holders. Should resources or currency in equivalent value to those originally assessed not be paid within a reasonable time frame, the Crown will determine cause for delay in a private hearing between itself and the defaulting party and arbitrate accordingly.
-----[X] Finally, Viserys' personal seal stamped in arcane fire, along with a formal invitation to the Coronation of their rightful Liege, Viserys Targaryen and promises of safe passage assured by the Armed Force of the Imperium.

[X] To the Sworn Lords of the North:
-[X] Conspicuously absent. The only thing here is Viserys' personal seal stamped in arcane fire, and document forbearing judgement in absentia of the current Overlord of the North, Eddard Stark, along with a formal invitation to the Coronation of their rightful Liege, Viserys Targaryen and promises of safe passage assured by the Armed Force of the Imperium.

[X] To Lord Harlaw:
-[X] Assurances of continued support for both House Harlaw and Lady Asha Greyjoy by the Crown.
--[X] Additionally, Viserys' personal seal stamped in arcane fire, along with a formal invitation to the Coronation of their rightful Liege, Viserys Targaryen and promises of safe passage assured by the Armed Force of the Imperium.

[X] To the Sworn Lords of the Stormlands
-[X] All lands unlawfully stripped from Houses by decree of their Overlord of that time, Lord Robert Baratheon, for supporting their Liege and House Targaryen, are to be returned to the original title holders, as their revocation was in of itself an unlawful act.
--[X] Additionally, all taxes and revenues collected from these properties from the time of seizure to their forfeiture will be assayed and distributed as is appropriate by the Crown, to the original title holders. Should resources or currency in equivalent value to those originally assessed not be paid within a reasonable time frame, the Crown will determine cause for delay in a private hearing between itself and the defaulting party and arbitrate accordingly.
---[X] Finally, Viserys' personal seal stamped in arcane fire, along with a formal invitation to the Coronation of their rightful Liege, Viserys Targaryen and promises of safe passage assured by the Armed Force of the Imperium.

[X] To the Sworn Lords of the Reach
-[X] Conspicuously absent. The only thing here is Viserys' personal seal stamped in arcane fire, along with a formal invitation to the Coronation of their rightful Liege, Viserys Targaryen and promises of safe passage assured by the Armed Force of the Imperium.

[X] To the Principality of Dorne
-[X] For the unwavering support of their Liege and House Targaryen, House Nymeros-Martell of Dorne is to be rewarded as deemed appropriate by the Crown for loyalty beyond measure.
--[X] Viserys' personal seal stamped in arcane fire, along with a formal invitation to the Coronation of their rightful Liege, Viserys Targaryen and promises of safe passage assured by the Armed Force of the Imperium.

[X] In General
-[X] For the unlawful rebellion against their Liege and House Targaryen, and furthermore for the numerous atrocities committed by the incumbent Overlord at the time of the Usurper's War, Tywin Lannister, House Lannister is hereby attainted for the crime of High Treason, furthermore, guilty of the most heinous crime of regicide, as well as facilitating the vile slaughter of Prince Aegon Targaryen, Princess Rhaenys Targaryen and Princess Elia Martell through the auspices of Ser Gregor Clegane and Ser Amory Lorch. Furthermore, the Wardenship of the West is hereby revoked, to be bestowed upon another House as the Crown sees fit.
--[X] Furthermore, no document, written in an official capacity by a submitting party, will be recognized by the Crown or its institutions, should it bear mention of the attainted House in question.
---[X] In addition, the title to Casterly Rock and all intendant lands or vassals, is hereby revoked from [attainted House], to be held in perpetuity by the Crown, to be garrisoned or bestowed as it sees fit.
----[X] Tywin, of attainted House, has been passed over for preliminary hearing, as his guilt has been determined without question, and has hereby been sentenced to die, for various crimes and numerous atrocities committed before, during, in or after time of the Usurper's War.

[X] "In my name alone," for the last time,
-[X] Viserys Targaryen
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It's beautiful...
 
[X] Crake

Just because we're not fucking over the Starks doesn't mean they're off the hook entirely, since they will lose the overlordship of The North and a lot of political power and crown favor will go to the Boltons and other houses who more directly supported us.
 
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