Ace of Scarabs
Mechanoid Pilot
- Location
- Singapore
[X] Azel
A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
Maybe make it so the loser of such a case is the one paying for the divination, of course with them being asked, if they want to risk having to pay for divination, or want to drop the case/admit that the other side has won the case, before the divination is performed.
This is of course only for cases where one side request divination, as opposed to cases where the state decide divination is necessary.
But it make it so frivolous divinations cost you, but you can still request a divination if you're sure you're in the right, and as it will be the other side paying if you're indeed right, you don't have to worry about your finances, so long as you're sure you're right.
- Location
- Germany
See my vote. That is roughly what I'm going with, just that the cost of all Divinations made on the the judiciaries tab can be assigned to either party, independently of the cases outcome. This is in part since there are not always clear winners in civil cases, and to keep the door open for the judge to split the costs, depending on exact circumstances.
It's mostly only relevant for the poor anyway, since the fact that the judge can reject the request under my proposal means that the rich will not get any Divinations on the states dime anyway.
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
- Location
- Russia
tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
Yeah but it's also relevant for the rich, in that they can't avoid the poor using divination to sue them, by driving the price up.
Being able to saddle the loser with the cost of the case, mean if a poor person has a good case, a rich person can't easily squash it though superior financing.
- Location
- Germany
Not what I meant. My point was that the rich already have access to Divination for their court cases anyway and that any ruling to widen access to Divination would benefit solely the poor.
Vote closed.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
What the hell happened to the forum this time? I finally dig myself out from under a pile of work so I can look for updates, and now I see that there are checkboxes beside every alert notification. 😡
/really doesn't like change, especially change for its own sake
/really doesn't like change, especially change for its own sake
Part MMMDCL: Wages of Spite
Wages of Spite
Thirty First Day of the Third Month 294 AC
At Malarys' suggestion you make several modifications to the procedure for civil litigation. You quickly have it laid down in a form the Voices can pass before the month is out, speaking with the senior representative for Sorcerer's Deep to ensure things go smoothly. Vaenarr Agreos's smile always reminded you more than a bit of Saan's, but never so much as when he takes up a law for emergency approval:
When a party in a suit introduces evidence, the other party must be given at least five days in which they can get full access to that evidence before it becomes admissible in court. Such contact will be supervised by a representative of the court and one of each party to prevent tampering. Any day on which such a viewing of the evidence could be done counts against this limit, regardless of the opposing party taking this opportunity or not. The opposing party can waive this right, if they so wish.
A party can request the court to verify evidence by divination by the House of Mirrors, but the court can reject this request if it is made frivolously. The cost of this examination becomes part of the suit and the judge decides who will pay for all or parts of the divination expenses as part of the judgment.
The modifications are likely to lead to some greater strain on the House of Mirrors so you send out fifty pairs of psionic object reading gloves to be used in court cases. It certainly will not suffice for every court, but if you could find some way to ferry them around as required... thankfully there is one other person you can speak to on that matter, though she is likely to be less cheerful about it than the Voice.
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"Sarell, I have found something else your sisters can do in place of library duty..." you begin. Her expression remains carefully attentive, but you can guess from the slight twitch of her left wing that she does not expect to enjoy what you have to say next.
In the end she sighs, "One can hardly call the cause of justice any less than that of knowledge." Erinyes usually disdain carrying packages, but as you had hoped they have enough affinity for seeing the law applied in cases great and small to agree to it without rancor. "In this too we might count your service better than that of Mammon, there is at least variety in the list of duties."
The fury remains with you throughout most of the day, ostensibly so that she can run messages to the various corners of the Imperium while you look through the reports, but in truth you suspect more for the company, having found herself at odd ends after the mission to the Feywild ended. Unlike many of her sisters Sarell has not had the chance to make as rich a life for herself outside of her duty yet due to having been stationed in the City of Brass for so long.
Not that you mind the company or the dark wit that accompanies it. Most of the rest of the news out of the Stepstones is good, from greeater progress on the schools in Myr due to continued donations by the guildmasters to the discovery of a deposit of iron by survey teams in the Eastern Flatlands. Alas, not all news could be that good.
"Does this say what I think it says...?" you hand the most comprehensive report on the Daughter's March to Sarell.
"Vanished pay chests for the workers and materials, they should have found that by now..." you see her expression shift to one of confusion, then wrath as she reaches the diviner's report and afferent Inquisition investigation. "I had almost forgotten how petty tanar'ri can be."
Someone had stolen a not insignificant amount of coin from the project and then tossed the chests into one of the darkest, bleakest corners the Abyss. Even if you were to recover them you doubt those chests would contain anything you would be willing to expose your citizens to. As no one had died nor had there been any indication of demonic meddling until greater divination were invoked the event had not been flagged urgent until yesterday.
"My apologies for reminding you," you reply as calmly as you can. It looks like you are going to have to review procedures for handling large sums of money across the Imperium.
| Establish Public Schools in Lys (17/36) |
| Establish Guard Posts in Southern Disputed Lands (7/85) |
| Establish Public Schools in Myr (20/24) -> Critical Success -> +1d6 -> 21/24 |
| Establish Messenger Service in Northern Disputed Lands (9/44) |
| Establish Messenger Service in Daughter's March (3/30) -> Critical Failure (20,000 IM Lost) |
| Establish Guard Posts in Eastern Flatlands (22/35) -> Critical Success -> Iron Mine Found, Province Wealth +1 |
How do you increase security?
[] Assign Flesh-Forged creatures to any large scale movements of currency (Short Term Solution)
-[] Write in how many
[] Encourage greater use of banking, not just for magnates and entrepreneurs but common citizens and small businesses (Long Term Solution)
-[] Write in
[] Write in
OOC: The demons did not steal 20,000 IM, more like 15,000. The rest is wasted time as people did not work without their pay, contractors shifted to other projects with the work grinding to a stop, etc...
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If they had not thrown it away you guys could have tracked it. It is possible to scry and divine objects, even something as commonplace as a coin. You would just need to track down someone to handled said coins and invest them with powers of divination. This way they left no tracks, or rather they left tracks that lead to a death trap 'have a swim in Primordial Evil'
- Location
- Germany
Also, this was likely not some random Tanar'ri, but one of Tiamats. Destroying someones hoard is more her style.
It's the kind of abyssal layer that might be made more hospitable by Wyldfire, a place most lesser demons fear to tread.
- Location
- Germany
What if we pump some liquefied Essence of Law from he Mammon Machine into it?
That would probably annoy the locals... a lot.
- Location
- Germany
I'm filing this away in the "future war-crimes" folder.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
- Location
- USA
LET'S DO IT.
It should be noted that this would disrupt Flesh forge operations for a time.
- Location
- Germany
Why though?
We can't even assume that the demons dropped that coin on their own layer of the Abyss after all.
We might be nuking their rivals and make another Demonlord our foe, just for fun.
- Location
- Argentina
First recover the coins, then track the true culprit through divination?
I mean, if they engage in pranks we can always escalate, but on our free time.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
- Location
- USA
Okay but why would it? The Mammon Machine is stored and operated inside of a Demiplane, and its production has separate material feeds because of that?
- Location
- Philippines
Track the culprits then turn them to Valyrian steel. That way they pay for the crime, and get us some profits.
- Location
- Argentina
They will get turned into Imperial Toilet Brushes!
Yes, I love the idea.
@Duesal, you know you want this.