I understood that reference.

Because he is Sundowner.

He is a sun who has been downed.

Sun.

Star.
Downed.

EZ clap.
 
Blood Dragon is a good standby.
You mean these guys here?


Ultimately, it doesn't matter. We will soon be Imperator Viserys and if that title alone does not excite, we've been doing something wrong.
 
Vote closed.
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Nov 11, 2020 at 10:50 AM, finished with 220 posts and 17 votes.

  • [X] Plan Cleaning Up
    -[X] Main Strike Team: Viserys, Dany, Ser Richard, Lya, Mereth, 4x Erinyes, 2x Vigilant Hunters
    --[X] Scout and secure the former stronghold of the Queen, with special focus on her body and the King. Feed on any energy fields that are smaller then your head, have Lya split any that are larger.
    -[X] Highgarden "Diplomacy" Team: Rhealla, Umbral Stalker, Osryx (Very Old Myrkdreki), The Seeker, Oberyn Martell (because pettiness quota)
    --[X] Deliver one (1) trained messenger raven and an explanation that you have solved the Tyrells Fey problems. Their undying gratitude and unwavering loyalty is appreciated.
    -[X] Crimson Court Team: Waymar, Lady Saenena Caleris, Benerro, 10x Erinyes, 2x Vigilant Hunters
    --[X] Secure the corpse of the lord and the remnants of the court. Try to browbeat as many remaining Crimson assets as possible into surrendering and bending the knee.
    -[X] Golden Court Team: Tyene, Vee, Malarys, Sandor, Valaena, 2x Fiery Dragonbeast, Glyra
    --[X] Secure the corpse of the lord and the remnants of the court. Try to browbeat as many remaining Gold assets as possible into surrendering and bending the knee.
    -[X] Orange Counterstrike Team:
    --[X] Marwyn, Vargo, Sari, Ashin, Qyburn, Leto
    --[X] 20x Erinyes, 4x Vigilant Hunters
    --[X] 2x Heavy Warstriders, 5x Warstriders, 20x Light Warstriders
    ---[X] Each Heavy Warstriders carries primarily solid ammo, but each one also gets Super-Incendiary Rounds (each one containing 10x Wildfire, 10x Incendiary Catalyst, 1x Pyre Salt)
    --[X] 10x Black Brute, 5x Necro-Kraken, 20x Black Champion, 20x Necrotic Mold, 10x Bloodclot Mold, 5x Greater Bloodclot Mold
    --[X] 3x Very Old Myrkdreki
    --[X] 20x Glass Golem
    --[X] 10x Advanced Sorcerer Creature Kelpies, 4x Fiery Dragonbeast
    --[X] See about the Deep Ones forces and start a counterattack if they deem it sensible, or if the Deep Ones try to establish a base on the Arbor. Otherwise, secure everything of the Orange Court that the Illithid have not already stolen.
    -[X] Violet Spite Team: Moonsong, Balerion (with Varys in charge), Asha, Theon, Maelor, Rina, Aradia, Kyra
    --[X] Seek to get a formal surrender from the Violet Court, offering them clemency if they bend the knee.
    -[X] Green Diplomacy Team: Main Orphne Lord, Alyssa Crowl, Danar Crowl, The Misfits, Soft Strider, 1x Verdant Phoenix, Nirah (Champion of Yss), Ser Dregaire, 1x Orphne Fey Lord
    --[X] Goal is to at least neutralize the court, preferably to get them to swear fealty either to Viserys directly, or to the Old Gods.
    -[X] Azure Diplomacy Team: Zherys, Xor, Garin, Wyla, Adamantine Golem, 2x Very Old Myrkdreki (The Twins), Aife (Herald of the Ferryman), 1x Orphne Fey Lord
    --[X] Goal is to at least neutralize the court, preferably to get them to swear fealty to Viserys.
    -[X] Indigo Scouting Team: Nuri, Morwyn, Tuin, Sarell, Azema, 6x Wild Hunt Archers, 4x Wild Hunt Scouts
    --[X] See what is left of the court and observe for now. If chances present themselves to recruit the remnants of the court, do so.
 
Vote closed.
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Nov 11, 2020 at 10:50 AM, finished with 220 posts and 17 votes.

  • [X] Plan Cleaning Up
    -[X] Main Strike Team: Viserys, Dany, Ser Richard, Lya, Mereth, 4x Erinyes, 2x Vigilant Hunters
    --[X] Scout and secure the former stronghold of the Queen, with special focus on her body and the King. Feed on any energy fields that are smaller then your head, have Lya split any that are larger.
    -[X] Highgarden "Diplomacy" Team: Rhealla, Umbral Stalker, Osryx (Very Old Myrkdreki), The Seeker, Oberyn Martell (because pettiness quota)
    --[X] Deliver one (1) trained messenger raven and an explanation that you have solved the Tyrells Fey problems. Their undying gratitude and unwavering loyalty is appreciated.
    -[X] Crimson Court Team: Waymar, Lady Saenena Caleris, Benerro, 10x Erinyes, 2x Vigilant Hunters
    --[X] Secure the corpse of the lord and the remnants of the court. Try to browbeat as many remaining Crimson assets as possible into surrendering and bending the knee.
    -[X] Golden Court Team: Tyene, Vee, Malarys, Sandor, Valaena, 2x Fiery Dragonbeast, Glyra
    --[X] Secure the corpse of the lord and the remnants of the court. Try to browbeat as many remaining Gold assets as possible into surrendering and bending the knee.
    -[X] Orange Counterstrike Team:
    --[X] Marwyn, Vargo, Sari, Ashin, Qyburn, Leto
    --[X] 20x Erinyes, 4x Vigilant Hunters
    --[X] 2x Heavy Warstriders, 5x Warstriders, 20x Light Warstriders
    ---[X] Each Heavy Warstriders carries primarily solid ammo, but each one also gets Super-Incendiary Rounds (each one containing 10x Wildfire, 10x Incendiary Catalyst, 1x Pyre Salt)
    --[X] 10x Black Brute, 5x Necro-Kraken, 20x Black Champion, 20x Necrotic Mold, 10x Bloodclot Mold, 5x Greater Bloodclot Mold
    --[X] 3x Very Old Myrkdreki
    --[X] 20x Glass Golem
    --[X] 10x Advanced Sorcerer Creature Kelpies, 4x Fiery Dragonbeast
    --[X] See about the Deep Ones forces and start a counterattack if they deem it sensible, or if the Deep Ones try to establish a base on the Arbor. Otherwise, secure everything of the Orange Court that the Illithid have not already stolen.
    -[X] Violet Spite Team: Moonsong, Balerion (with Varys in charge), Asha, Theon, Maelor, Rina, Aradia, Kyra
    --[X] Seek to get a formal surrender from the Violet Court, offering them clemency if they bend the knee.
    -[X] Green Diplomacy Team: Main Orphne Lord, Alyssa Crowl, Danar Crowl, The Misfits, Soft Strider, 1x Verdant Phoenix, Nirah (Champion of Yss), Ser Dregaire, 1x Orphne Fey Lord
    --[X] Goal is to at least neutralize the court, preferably to get them to swear fealty either to Viserys directly, or to the Old Gods.
    -[X] Azure Diplomacy Team: Zherys, Xor, Garin, Wyla, Adamantine Golem, 2x Very Old Myrkdreki (The Twins), Aife (Herald of the Ferryman), 1x Orphne Fey Lord
    --[X] Goal is to at least neutralize the court, preferably to get them to swear fealty to Viserys.
    -[X] Indigo Scouting Team: Nuri, Morwyn, Tuin, Sarell, Azema, 6x Wild Hunt Archers, 4x Wild Hunt Scouts
    --[X] See what is left of the court and observe for now. If chances present themselves to recruit the remnants of the court, do so.
Excellent. Time to loot the everything, and make the scattered remnants swear fealty.

Also a Tyrell POV interlude reacting to Operation Starfall and then Rhaella delivering the raven would be perfection. 👌
 
The best names are the ones that don't sound like much, but are made more by the people who carry them.

Viserys has the class to take something like king in the garden (or similar variants) and make it imposing because it refers to him instead of borrowing intimidation from his title.
 
I still remember the sort of long-term plans we used to discuss back in 2017/2018. Viserys as such a long-term cultural fixture that getting rid of him will be unimaginable, etc.
That will obviously apply to any title we choose. And past a certain point titles become unnecessary, and your name serves the exact same function (except that it's cooler that way).
 
I was looking around for inspiration, and I found something interesting called Sylvan Theatre which refers to a type of outdoor theatre arrangement. If you look at that page you'll see it list a place called Ruinentheater in Germany, which looks like this:
If we rechristen the site of the CoS Queen's palace to something like similar, then I give it even odds our more melodramatic fey start calling Viserys lord of the ruined theatre (or whatever that specific ruin's name becomes) by the end of the day.

It feels like a bit much to me, but vaguely threatening allegory with at least two applicable meanings seems like about as subdued as they'd go for something like this.
 
Winning Vote
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Nov 11, 2020 at 10:50 AM, finished with 220 posts and 17 votes.

  • [X] Plan Cleaning Up
    -[X] Main Strike Team: Viserys, Dany, Ser Richard, Lya, Mereth, 4x Erinyes, 2x Vigilant Hunters
    --[X] Scout and secure the former stronghold of the Queen, with special focus on her body and the King. Feed on any energy fields that are smaller then your head, have Lya split any that are larger.
    -[X] Highgarden "Diplomacy" Team: Rhealla, Umbral Stalker, Osryx (Very Old Myrkdreki), The Seeker, Oberyn Martell (because pettiness quota)
    --[X] Deliver one (1) trained messenger raven and an explanation that you have solved the Tyrells Fey problems. Their undying gratitude and unwavering loyalty is appreciated.
    -[X] Crimson Court Team: Waymar, Lady Saenena Caleris, Benerro, 10x Erinyes, 2x Vigilant Hunters
    --[X] Secure the corpse of the lord and the remnants of the court. Try to browbeat as many remaining Crimson assets as possible into surrendering and bending the knee.
    -[X] Golden Court Team: Tyene, Vee, Malarys, Sandor, Valaena, 2x Fiery Dragonbeast, Glyra
    --[X] Secure the corpse of the lord and the remnants of the court. Try to browbeat as many remaining Gold assets as possible into surrendering and bending the knee.
    -[X] Orange Counterstrike Team:
    --[X] Marwyn, Vargo, Sari, Ashin, Qyburn, Leto
    --[X] 20x Erinyes, 4x Vigilant Hunters
    --[X] 2x Heavy Warstriders, 5x Warstriders, 20x Light Warstriders
    ---[X] Each Heavy Warstriders carries primarily solid ammo, but each one also gets Super-Incendiary Rounds (each one containing 10x Wildfire, 10x Incendiary Catalyst, 1x Pyre Salt)
    --[X] 10x Black Brute, 5x Necro-Kraken, 20x Black Champion, 20x Necrotic Mold, 10x Bloodclot Mold, 5x Greater Bloodclot Mold
    --[X] 3x Very Old Myrkdreki
    --[X] 20x Glass Golem
    --[X] 10x Advanced Sorcerer Creature Kelpies, 4x Fiery Dragonbeast
    --[X] See about the Deep Ones forces and start a counterattack if they deem it sensible, or if the Deep Ones try to establish a base on the Arbor. Otherwise, secure everything of the Orange Court that the Illithid have not already stolen.
    -[X] Violet Spite Team: Moonsong, Balerion (with Varys in charge), Asha, Theon, Maelor, Rina, Aradia, Kyra
    --[X] Seek to get a formal surrender from the Violet Court, offering them clemency if they bend the knee.
    -[X] Green Diplomacy Team: Main Orphne Lord, Alyssa Crowl, Danar Crowl, The Misfits, Soft Strider, 1x Verdant Phoenix, Nirah (Champion of Yss), Ser Dregaire, 1x Orphne Fey Lord
    --[X] Goal is to at least neutralize the court, preferably to get them to swear fealty either to Viserys directly, or to the Old Gods.
    -[X] Azure Diplomacy Team: Zherys, Xor, Garin, Wyla, Adamantine Golem, 2x Very Old Myrkdreki (The Twins), Aife (Herald of the Ferryman), 1x Orphne Fey Lord
    --[X] Goal is to at least neutralize the court, preferably to get them to swear fealty to Viserys.
    -[X] Indigo Scouting Team: Nuri, Morwyn, Tuin, Sarell, Azema, 6x Wild Hunt Archers, 4x Wild Hunt Scouts
    --[X] See what is left of the court and observe for now. If chances present themselves to recruit the remnants of the court, do so.
 
Part MMMDCXLVI: High Halls and Hidden Things
High Halls and Hidden Things

Thirteenth Day of the Third Month 294 AC

A raven flies towards Highgarden with 'glad tidings' for Mance Tyrell and his kin. The only thing that could have made it a better sign of the changing fortunes of House Tyrell would have been the presence of the Red Viper among the diplomats who delivered it. Alas, your mother argued against it. "No sense rubbing salt in the wound unless you plan to remove them entirely," she said and you admitted that you do not, though it is admittedly close. The Tyrells could have provided an opening to negotiate with the Court of Stars, they might have prevented the war whose first blow you had just dealt, but they had refused to act much like their fey patrons, hoping for crowns of flowers where now they shall have only brows marked with ash.

***​

For the first time in your life you are glad that time flows differently in the Feywild. What would have been the search of weeks or months through tumbled halls and ruined gardens was done in the span of hours as they are counted under the sun. Everywhere there are the marks of destruction, but everywhere also are the marks of hurried flight. A broken tower and a shattered throne, a withered briar, empty of its long burden. In the moments it had taken you, Dany, Ser Richard, Lya, Mereth, four of her sisters and two vigilant briars to reach Highgarden and step between worlds to the the ruins under dying stars the survivors of the court had already spirited away the body of the ever-crownless lord. At first you think the same can be said of the Queen, but a word from Benerro and his god before you separate makes clear that there is nothing of her left to claim; bone, blood and spirit burned to nothing.

You might have been upset at the fact were it not for the reason the priest gave, speaking for his Lord. "Resentment grows cold as ice under stone, and none more so than that which lies dead."

Briefly contemplating what the Lords of Winter could have done with such a corpse you decide that caution was worth the loss, and you doubt many of your companions or subjects would think otherwise. Well... perhaps Qyburn, but he has enough test subjects on his hands not to linger too long on the loss.

Of greater import is the fact that the Lord's body, if Lord he can still be called without his crown, had been claimed by the Green Warden, and according to the Orphne Lord they are willing to deal with you and yours, even submit to your rule. However, according Garth whom the Warden had summoned to play diplomat on their side, much to his not so subtle disquiet, there is more to it: "The Warding Wood will not bend knee in the span of an hour like a beast with a burned paw whining in fear."

"How willing is the Warden to swear fealty to either us or to the Old Gods?" you ask of your delegation directly.

"More open to the latter than the former, with the caveat that they are unlikely to surrender whatever remains of the Slumbering King into your keeping, " Ser Dregaire replies cheerfully. The horned fey lord seems to be enjoying the most recent turn of events to a strange degree, not even for any spite or enmity, but simply novelty. 'Tales of old grow dreary and dull, so let there be new ones even if by pages burning light they must be writ,' so he had said so you could hear over the ruined land.

"What of the Old Gods keeping?" you prompt.

It is Soft Strider who speaks up, by far the most quiet and contemplative of the company. "The Warden has spoken of placing the Slumbering King upon a weirwood throne, that their Lord of Old would be part of their new-woven Song." One would have to be blind to miss the regret at the death and ruin in her deep green eyes, but she does not bring it up. The choices have been made on both sides and the past will not be undone.

Do you agree to the offer of the Green Warden?

[] Yes
-[] Write in any other conditions

[] No
-[] Write in counter-proposal


OOC: Trying to summarize a bit so this won't drag.
 
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What are the chances of the not a Lord to create a split faction in the green dream that wants to fuck us up?

Or we should let that be Future Viserys problem?
 
Actually, on second thought, I am dubious about the idea of enshrining that relic in our perfectly serviceable network of angry old men.
 
Actually, on second thought, I am dubious about the idea of enshrining that relic in our perfectly serviceable network of angry old men.
It depends a lot on how the power-balance would be and what the personality of the fallen king will be like.

As is, I'm surprised that the body is even still viable after we used his mind as a conduit for way too much murder.
 
I'm thinking we should have them swear to us, but give the slumbering king to the OG. However influential he is, the green seer is still a servant of the old gods and is far from their only channel to the world. It takes him off the board as a future threat without forcing us to kill this whole court to get him.

I know they don't want to swear to Viserys directly, but I think we'll be better off if we can control their socialization with mortals directly. Right now they really hate us, but if we can get them to integrate with and come to care for the people of the imperium we could start working against that trend.

Giving them to the old gods risks letting them stew in the corner without strong bonds to stop them from acting out if something changes in the future.
 
High Halls and Hidden Things

Thirteenth Day of the Third Month 294 AC

A raven flies towards Highgarden with 'glad tidings' for Mance Tyrell and his kin. The only thing that could have made it a better sign of the changing fortunes of House Tyrell would have been the presence of the Red Viper among the diplomats who delivered it. Alas, your mother argued against it. "No sense rubbing salt in the wound unless you plan to remove them entirely," she said, and you admitted that you do not, though it is admittedly close. The Tyrells could have provided an opening to negotiate with the Court of Stars, they might have even prevented the war whose first blow you had just dealt, but they had refused to act much, like their fey patrons, hoping for crowns of flowers where now they shall have only brows marked with ash.

***​

For the first time in your life you are glad that time flows differently in the feywild. What would have been the search of weeks or months through tumbled halls and ruined gardens was done in the span of hours as they are counted under the sun. Everywhere there are the marks of destruction, but everywhere also the marks of hurried flight. A broken tower and a shattered throne, a withered briar, empty of its long burden. In the moments it had taken you, Dany, Ser Richard, Lya, Mereth, four of her sisters, and two vigilant briars to reach Highgarden and step between to the the ruins under dying stars, the survivors of the court had already spirited away the body of the ever-crownless lord. At first you think the same can be said of the Queen, but a word from Benerro and his god before you separate makes clear that there is nothing of her left to claim; her bone, blood and spirit were burned to nothing.

You might have been upset at the fact were it not for the reason the priest gave, speaking for his Lord. "Resentment grows cold as ice under stone, and none more so than that which lies dead."

Briefly contemplating what the Lords of Winter could have done with such a corpse, you decide that caution was worth the loss and you doubt many of your companions or subjects would think otherwise. Well, perhaps Qyburn, but he has enough test subjects on his hands not to linger too long on the loss.

Of greater import is the fact that the Lord's body, if Lord he can still be called without his crown, had been claimed by the Green Warden and, according to the Orphne Lord, they are willing to deal with you and yours, even submit to your rule. According to Garth, however, whom the Warden had summoned to play diplomat on their side, much to his not so subtle disquiet: "The Warding Wood will not bend knee in the span of an hour like a beast with a burned paw whining in fear."

"How willing is the Warden to swear fealty to either us or to the Old Gods?" you ask of your delegation directly.

"More open to the latter than the former, with the caveat that they are unlikely to surrender whatever remains of the Slumbering King into your keeping, " Ser Dregaire replies cheerfully. The horned fey lord seems to be enjoying the most recent turn of events to a strange degree, not even for any spite or enmity, but simply novelty. 'Tales of old grow dreary and dull. Let there be new ones, even if by page's burning light they must be writ,' he had said so you could hear over the ruined land.

"What of the Old Gods keeping?" you prompt.

It is Soft Strider who speaks up, by far the most quiet and contemplative of the company. "The Warden has spoken of placing the Slumbering King upon a Weirwood throne, that their Lord of Old would be part of their new-woven Song." One would have to be blind to miss the regret at the death and ruin in her deep green eyes, but she does not bring it up. The choices have been made on both sides and the past will not be undone.

Do you agree to the offer of the Green Warden?

[] Yes
-[] Write in any other conditions

[] No
-[] Write in Counter-proposal


OOC: Trying to summarize a bit so this won't drag. Not yet edited.
Here's an edited version of the chapter, DP.
 
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