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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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TalonofAnathrax said:
I mean, I personally think that our goal should be to convince them not to press any claims when they grow up, and not to try to stir up rebellion or something. IMO this is best achieved by making sure that they still have something to lose, by making sure that they don't grow up surrounded by Baratheon loyalist, and by making it clear that we'd personally stop any such rebellious effort. "Building a rapport" seems secondary.
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It's not really practical to let them wander off on their own, but it's also not as if we're going to stop them from seeing eachother entirely, nor is it to any personal benefit for them to stay in King's Landing regardless, where they won't be welcome.

Yes, communicating the futility of rebellion will be primary concern compared to being on friendly terms. That can come later, if we have the time.
 
Azel said:
have Varys blow himself up to kill them all.
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...You remember our last talk on the matter?
[:V] "In addition to having the Wyldfire and adamantine flechette shrapnel, have as many high-power AoE spells cast as reasonably possible in the Celerity/Timestop-granted timeframe"

(I'm only semi-serious wit this. While I don't feel like any would survive, nor that specifying the stuff for Bloodraven is needed, I feel like shitposting rn)
 
Azel said:
-[X] After this, during a meeting of the Small Council where Cersei, Jaime and Kevan Lannister are present, but not Joffrey or Pycelle, have Varys blow himself up to kill them all.
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I am very excited for a POV of this Small Council meeting. Can you even imagine Bloodraven's catharsis?

"I've been hiding your incestuous affair for months! Months!"

EDIT: Poor guy must have been about as frustrated as Azema was managing Aedon.
 
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Azel said:
-[X] After this, during a meeting of the Small Council where Cersei, Jaime and Kevan Lannister are present, but not Joffrey or Pycelle, have Varys blow himself up to kill them all.
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Nah, this is wasting a perfectly good simulacrum to murder secondary characters. We should at least make another simulacrum for Bloodraven to move around at least. He actually likes having feet.

We can do all this without the Varys bomb.
 
Not gonna lie, kinda hoping Ol' Tubby pulls through and survives the murder attempt.

Not out of kindness mind you, but because him surviving his own wife trying to kill him makes King's landing even more of a clusterfuck than him dying would.

Not to mention how it'd just tank the Lannister's "sterling" reputation to have one of their blood trying regicide right after we were sighted scouting out places for invasion in flying metal ships like Ancient Aliens off the history channel.

That and I still want to spike him like a football.

Wishful and wasteful thinking I know, but I was always one for dramatics.

[X]Azel
 
Tomcost said:
Nah, this is wasting a perfectly good simulacrum to murder secondary characters. We should at least make another simulacrum for Bloodraven to move around at least. He actually likes having feet.

We can do all this without the Varys bomb.
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Getting all three of them killed in a quick and orderly fashion is far from trivial. This is the neatest way to do it.

We can always make a new Simulacrum for Bloodraven.
 
Azel said:
Getting all three of them killed in a quick and orderly fashion is far from trivial. This is the neatest way to do it.

We can always make a new Simulacrum for Bloodraven.
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Okay...

And Varys would have ended its usefulness, so no actual gain in retaining that simulacrum.

The only thing I pity is not being able to rub in Robert's face how we controlled everything for months.
 
Tomcost said:
Nah, this is wasting a perfectly good simulacrum to murder secondary characters. We should at least make another simulacrum for Bloodraven to move around at least. He actually likes having feet.

We can do all this without the Varys bomb.
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We very deliberately harvested actual!Varys' blood for future simulacrums. I forget how many doses we have, but it was definitely more than 5. Bloodraven is not running out of simulacrums any time soon.

Hell, we can just give him a Flesh Forged body to walk around in until we free him properly.
 
@Azel a question?

Could Barry tank the Simulacrum explosion? He has been gearing up to fight us directly in a one on one fight for a while now, and this was after we turned into a gigantic magic throwing dragon.

You'd think "gigantic flaming explosions out of nowhere" would be one of the first things he'd buy a magic ring, some kind of under armor, or amulet for.

Then again it's not like his survival is a priority for the Lannisters so I might just be barking at shadows.
 
I don't think Viserys would wish to use a young child like Joffrey in this manner. And I don't think it would be worth the effort, either, as communication lag and the slow response time of Westerosi Lord's means that any potential gain from allowing Cersei to keep dicking shit up will be minimal considering our own time table.
 
Goldfish said:
I don't think Viserys would wish to use a young child like Joffrey in this manner. And I don't think it would be worth the effort, either, as communication lag and the slow response time of Westerosi Lord's means that any potential gain from allowing Cersei to keep dicking shit up will be minimal considering our own time table.
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The important bit is getting plausible deniability for killing a bunch of problematic main-branch Lannisters that would otherwise stand in the way of an orderly transition in the Westerlands.

I mean, we could just hang Cersei for a whole bunch of crimes she committed, like murdering good old Robert, but people want to loot her kids, so...
 
Goldfish said:
I don't think Viserys would wish to use a young child like Joffrey in this manner. And I don't think it would be worth the effort, either, as communication lag and the slow response time of Westerosi Lord's means that any potential gain from allowing Cersei to keep dicking shit up will be minimal considering our own time table.
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Joffrey would be perfectly safe. We'd be sending in guards to protect him from the shadows in case any loyalists get 'ideas'. As for communication lag, we don't need all of Westeros to know. It's enough if Cersei fucks everything up in front of King's Landing and proceeds to make a mockery of the Lannister name. That shit show will filter to the rest of the continent through rumor after the conquest.
 
Azel said:
but people want to loot her kids
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I mean, not really?
Well, not everyone, I think.

Like, I for one don't see the exact point to do so.
Besides the fact that we can't exactly kill them IC there doesn't seem to be much reason to watch over them too much either?

I'm just voting for the least problematic vote present as far as I comprehend them.
 
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