- Location
- Germany
Could you also shove in Qyburn if the opportunity presents itself? I'd like to have that over with.
A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
- Thread starter DragonParadox
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- United States
[X] Plan Manifest Destiny
- Location
- Argentina
Hmm. That was my impression, and that is a critique of mine at the system. If everyone is playing by the same rules, a small nation consisting of one province with no heroes can't ever expand and is resigned to never grow unless it takes over another by military might.
We would have had a really hard time had we started using this system when we only had the Stepstones.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
We had a lot of concentrated hero units there, though. That makes a big difference.
- Location
- Germany
Working as designed. The reason the Stepstones became the nucleus of an Imperium was not roundabout 10,000 unwashed pirates, but the two dozen mid-level PC's residing there.
If you had a decade to century long play with this system, then a minor colony could eventually grow into a proper state on it's own from the results of random events and a string of good government (that is, leaders with high stats). But a loosely aligned group of pastoralists should not be on even footing with even a primitive city-state, let alone a well developed nation.
- Location
- Texas
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] Azel
- Location
- Canada
[X] Plan Manifest Destiny
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
- Location
- USA
This really puts things into perspective for anyone who doesn't stare at spreadsheets for hours at a time (ME).
Think about it, people have complained before that "it takes forever for anything to happen, none of these actions will ever be completed" except early on we threw action after action into deliberately building up some core provinces, or taking on some provinces that had been built up beforehand by other people, and now the stats for all of them are improving all the time, which grants more actions, which can be thrown at other provinces to improve their stats, which grants more actions.
Development begets exponential development. The only way around the build-up windup period is to have a dozen heroes single-handedly dedicate their full attention to nation-building, when they are juggling military actions and fighting off alien invasions/zombie plagues/conducting cognito hazardous material disposal...
- Location
- Germany
The core of the issue remains the glacial pace of time.
If we could pass through an IC month in an OOC week, nobody would complain about anything. Other quests have actions that take half a dozen turns and nobody minds, since that's just a dozen or so updates.
- Location
- Reno Nv
[X] Azel
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
- Location
- USA
Yeah, but that's ultimately a difference of genre. This is a D&D quest with nation building tacked on. I think there's nothing wrong with civ quests. But there's a notable difference in intent that allows you to selectively choose to slow down and go through a gigantic fucking arc that spans a short timeframe, like Dynasty. Or go through literal decades at a time with barely any fluff written up, ala Sparks.
That ASWaH has moments where lots of shit happens, and it's all extremely relevant, and times where lots of shit happens but none of it is relevant, sort of says more about its uniqueness, some good, some bad.
That ASWaH has moments where lots of shit happens, and it's all extremely relevant, and times where lots of shit happens but none of it is relevant, sort of says more about its uniqueness, some good, some bad.
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- United States
I'd like to steal and refine this lore if we ever get the chance. The more we take from him the less he has to tempt our students.
But mostly I just want to steal his lore.
- Location
- Germany
I think part of it comes with being a god-like being with the Domains related to magic and temptation.
That's not really "lore" you can steal, that is the innate ability to promise mages power and then deliver on it.
Like we could propably do by spamming Wish to enhance a mage, only cheaper because it's his "thing". Or like a souped-up variant on the Uniila's ability to give bonus spells and raise the DC of a person's magic.
Will do
A lot of said lore involves channeling the Abyss itself, one of the oldest things in the universe which contains multitude of worlds.
- Location
- Germany
This would be a place for the Flightschool-meme.
Abbraxxas Temptation School
So you want to tempt mages?
Well that's fine indeed, a new kind of corruption for a new time.
My tip is to be a near-deity of magic, that's what works for me, so that's my advice.
But what if we are just a mythic archmage?
That's a bad strategy son, and gruesome. Demon-Lordship is what I do, stick to that.
I hope that was helpful.
Abbraxxas Temptation School
So you want to tempt mages?
Well that's fine indeed, a new kind of corruption for a new time.
My tip is to be a near-deity of magic, that's what works for me, so that's my advice.
But what if we are just a mythic archmage?
That's a bad strategy son, and gruesome. Demon-Lordship is what I do, stick to that.
I hope that was helpful.
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
- Location
- Russia
Just being foreboding as I usually am with keeping track of things... @DragonParadox?
Boo!
Remaining RAs:
(but seriously, y'all, take note of the fact we have several on-screen MAs that would each take at least a chapter to get exposition on)
Boo!
Remaining RAs:
Remaining MAs and on-screen points of interest.
Remaining Adventures and other Hero Character actions:
(but seriously, y'all, take note of the fact we have several on-screen MAs that would each take at least a chapter to get exposition on)
- Location
- The Netherlands
ego Minds games has alreaddy been done way earlyer this month
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
- Location
- Russia
And I didn't find the quote when I went looking, and no one offered one when I asked, dp included.
(This is the second time you bring it up too, isn't it?)
So imma keep including it until someone does
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
He's right about it. I can't remember whose POV the chapter was written in, but I do recall that it was covered.And I didn't find the quote when I went looking, and no one offered one when I asked, dp included.
(This is the second time you bring it up too, isn't it?)
So imma keep including it until someone does
EDIT: Here's the chapter. It was at nearly the beginning of the month.
- Location
- The Netherlands
it was a report from Velen