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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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BronzeTongue said:
It's really nice that we don't have to publish a budget or anything. Can you imagine if we had to justify our expenses to someone? Even when they're entirely justified the numbers would still make half of the Imperium panic. :V
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Well, it's better than the aneurysms they would surely have if they knew the vast majority of the treasure and coinage in our treasury is the fruit of bloody-handed piracy and looting of our own doing.

There is stealing a kingdom's worth of gold, and then there is funding a high fantasy empire by looting so hard you've generated immediate liquid capital and raised whole industries to exploit the activity.
 
Crake said:
Well, it's better than the aneurysms they would surely have if they knew the vast majority of the treasure and coinage in our treasury is the fruit of bloody-handed piracy and looting of our own doing.

There is stealing a kingdom's worth of gold, and then there is funding a high fantasy empire by looting so hard you've generated immediate liquid capital and raised whole industries to exploit the activity.
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SD was a pirate port already when we got here, and I don't recall telling anyone it stopped being one. It's not our fault people don't ask the right questions. :V
 
Crake said:
There is stealing a kingdom's worth of gold, and then there is funding a high fantasy empire by looting so hard you've generated immediate liquid capital and raised whole industries to exploit the activity.
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What happens when the mines grow cold and empty? When there's nothing more to reap? I know we still have our passive income via trade. But if we have to cross that bridge, which other... venture do we have on hand that we could raid?
 
BronzeTongue said:
Okay Richard's new groove take two:
Planar Aegis - so much beautiful nonsense here. Anyone hits you in melee without a reached weapon takes 3d6 + CL up to 20 damage in one of a small set of types. The user also takes half damage from attacks of that type. (5hd)

Retribution - after someone attacks the user they can chose to subject them to wracking pain to the tune of a -4 debuff to attack rolls, ability checks, and skill checks.(3hd)

Caustic Blood - slashing or piercing damage cause the attacker to take 1d6 per CL up to 15d6 total acid damage, followed by another 1d6 per 2 CL up to 7d6 total acid damage the next round. (5hd)
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Planar Aegis and Retribution are the two most promising here, I think. Very good passive effects that can make fighting Richard highly unpleasant. Caustic Blood is one I've thought about before, but I can see how Richard might come to regret spraying magically potent acid every time his skin is broken.

Kiss of the First World is neat, but he already gets Fast Healing from his armor and the speed increase isn't worth using 4 Permanence HD.
 
Jack vile Ripper said:
What happens when the mines grow cold and empty? When there's nothing more to reap? I know we still have our passive income via trade. But if we have to cross that bridge, which other... venture do we have on hand that we could raid?
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We're on an extreme wartime footing when it comes to resource expenditure. Our crafting, commission, and Forge expenses won't always be at their current level, but we've got so much ground to make up, so many forces to equip, build, and grow, that it's worth splurging now to make up for the time deficit.

When this isn't necessary, our income will easily be able to keep up with our expenditures.
 
Goldfish said:
Planar Aegis and Retribution are the two most promising here, I think. Very good passive effects that can make fighting Richard highly unpleasant. Caustic Blood is one I've thought about before, but I can see how Richard might come to regret spraying magically potent acid every time his skin is broken.

Kiss of the First World is neat, but he already gets Fast Healing from his armor and the speed increase isn't worth using 4 Permanence HD.
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Fair enough; I figured that he wouldn't encounter anything that actually damaged him enough to set it off on a days to day basis, especially if we get him some DR related stuff to keep on hand even when out of his work gear, but I can see how that might be a problem.

It's too bad, I like the idea of setting up a scenario where damaging Richard requires you to choose between getting doused with acid or hit in the face with your own attack.
 
For all that we talk about extreme expenditures, keep in mind we're at the point where we could spend over four million IM on different projects per month and still be in the black by year's end.

We just have a tendency to overshoot that mark on the order of two to three million IM.
 
We have 70M in cash on hand right now. That's more of a reserve than we need, and if we weren't using it to upgrade our forces, it would go into investments to increase our passive income.
 
Really, if you think about it, on the whole the concept of currency is ephemeral and abstractly arbitrary. It basically boils down to how tough and scary everyone else thinks you are in simple terms. Tougher you are, the more your coin is worth. If trust in that strength falls, that value also slips.

We back our coin with coin from the Peerless Empire. So by extension our coin is truly only worth as much as people trust in the strength of the Peerless Empire.

When we loot, for instance, a convoy of Efreeti ships and sell the whole lot to the Shaitan, people trust our coin's wealth will hold that value by its very effort. In fact if we could not do that very thing, the Shaitan would not be willing to financially back us... actually if you think about it, we're running our empire off of Shaitan money at the end of the day.

They are bankrolling our global conquest.

I find this highly amusing for a variety of reasons.
 
[X] Crake

Found this awesome map of the Silver Sea area and the placements of the various Sarnori cities in general. Think we could use fact most rest on the Sarn to our advantage?

We do have the ability to make small scale Hammer of the Waters from Vee right?

What you think @Crake? Could we make tiny tsunamis made from river?
 
F0lkL0re said:
Money is as always the greatest super power.
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No it's not, it's merely a pretty good super power, if it was the greatest, the Lannisters would be way more problematic.

Sure we're richer than them now, but they were some of the richest in the world for a long time, and yet they aren't particularly a great threat, money make any super power better, but it's not enough by itself, you at minimum need the power of intelligence, so you know where best to spend your money.
Jack vile Ripper said:
What happens when the mines grow cold and empty? When there's nothing more to reap? I know we still have our passive income via trade. But if we have to cross that bridge, which other... venture do we have on hand that we could raid?
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If we don't have more enemies to plunder, we don't need to spend as obscene amounts of money as we are currently doing, and our passive income in constantly growing, and we can choose to spend actions on making it grow faster.
 
tarrangar said:
No it's not, it's merely a pretty good super power, if it was the greatest, the Lannisters would be way more problematic.

Sure we're richer than them now, but they were some of the richest in the world for a long time, and yet they aren't particularly a great threat, money make any super power better, but it's not enough by itself, you at minimum need the power of intelligence, so you know where best to spend your money.

If we don't have more enemies to plunder, we don't need to spend as obscene amounts of money as we are currently doing, and our passive income in constantly growing, and we can choose to spend actions on making it grow faster.
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Small qualification: Money is the best superpower in a setting where you can invest it into research that can yield enough dividends to equalize the playing field. This is more prevalent in Sci Fi settings than in Fantasy ones like this.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Jul 12, 2020 at 5:40 AM, finished with 77 posts and 18 votes.
  • [X] To Kasath I would join strength to strength with yourself, as in the sphere of war you might already contend against the decrepit, the delusional and the damned, instead in peace we would go and entreat the lords there to set aside ruin and make an end of madness.
    -[X] With yourself, the familiarity of that entreaty would not be blinded by suspicion, by the contempt for outsiders and the cynic watching for unproven words and shallow motivations. And myself the will and means to accomplish what we set our minds to, some of Sarnor's legacy can wrest itself from the grave, or at least lay bitter and old hatreds to rest.
    [X] With our host joined, the three of us might go onward, setting aside thoughts of making war for a short time, and investigate the ails of Mardosh. There we might find what facade has woven itself upon the people there, and if it should be a cur or a horror leading them to their own ends upon unseen strings, we might cut them and hopefully grow in strength even further before battle is joined.
    [X] As for Gornath, one could hardly claim the so-called King of Rats to be the most proactive ruler. Let him moulder in madness and stew in impotent hate, he will bide himself for us and not dare stick his head out of his strongness and holdfast. If the sane still thrive under his paranoid eye, an earnest entreating from their fellows might pull them out of the way of the funerary pyre.
    [X] Finally, for the foes who would drown the living and tread and retread their mummery endlessly until they are made puppets themselves by the dread power of the Far North, with Sarnath there can be no peace, but there might be rest. With our host combined we might put an end to them once and for all, vengeance long sated and hope for the future restored. No more will the Sarnori mire in madness and linger in hatred upon the world under the sun, but instead rebuild themselves there upon the stones of the previous age.
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KnightofTempest said:
Small qualification: Money is the best superpower in a setting where you can invest it into research that can yield enough dividends to equalize the playing field. This is more prevalent in Sci Fi settings than in Fantasy ones like this.
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Even then you also need the power of intelligence, a fool and his money are soon parted, money is great, but it's not enough by itself.
 
tarrangar said:
Even then you also need the power of intelligence, a fool and his money are soon parted, money is great, but it's not enough by itself.
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Nah, you just need to know how to pick your R&D Staff.

Hell in Marvel, the Tinkerer makes a living on supplying the NYC Supervillian Underground with Supertech Equipment. You just need to know who to contract R&D to. . .
 
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