Jack vile Ripper
The swellest guy in Creation.
- Location
- Indonesia
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I assume that asking the entire R'hllorite populations to come with us for thr 'promised land' is out of the table, yes?
A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
- Thread starter DragonParadox
- Start date
-
- Tags
- a song of ice and fire a sword without a hilt d&d 3.5 dungeons & dragons 100% high octane dragon fuel ave corvidae battle action dragon diplomacy best sister bureaucromancy delicious soul-stuff dragon dreams come true dragon ta'veren greatest uncle hubris is a coward's word in defiance of gods and men mammon's folly mutually assured mage's disjunction qm murderhobo top tier coatl
Seeing as most of them are slaves who are the property of Norvoshi citizens very much so yes.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
Here's an edited version of the chapter, DP.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
I don't really care for material compensation here, or trade concessions. If they won't outright allow the R'hllorists to leave because most of them are slaves, that's unfortunate for them because it pretty much seals their fates. We were going to take over anyway, but that's a pretty good excuse to do so that sits nearly in line with our established policies.
For now, we'd probably be better off just asking for a lessening of state-sponsored persecution of the Red Faith.
For now, we'd probably be better off just asking for a lessening of state-sponsored persecution of the Red Faith.
Keep in mind that will feed into the narrative that you are behind the unrest with the Red faith and want help building up your fifth column.
Thats good. I really want to rain fire over a city. And with things like merciful spells we can even do it non lethally. Thats the one that does non lethal damage right.
- Location
- Greece
I favour more economic control and perhaps even allowing Imperium businesses to establish beachheads here. Too, that is the way to help the Red Faith in an unobtrusive fashion (and massively increase local support) if so inclined. Only have to deliver fair service, free of discrimination.
Follow it up with an inquisition base to gather all those suddenly grateful peeps, add religious awe and welp; Norvos' halfway ours.
Follow it up with an inquisition base to gather all those suddenly grateful peeps, add religious awe and welp; Norvos' halfway ours.
- Location
- Germany
[X] Join the Imperium, end slavery and religious persecution. We can talk about the details once that is set.
Why not, in terms of administration we can handle another city right now.
Why not, in terms of administration we can handle another city right now.
Evaunit02mark1
S-s-smell the Prey, S-s-start the Hunt.
It might not help with the whole Messiah thing we're trying to avoid, but I'm all for throwing down a few plagues.
- Location
- Philippines
Not to mention most of their wives as per your old rumour posts.
[X] Artemis1992
They will join the Imperium. Even if we have to hoist them by their beards!
Jack vile Ripper
The swellest guy in Creation.
- Location
- Indonesia
- Pronouns
- He/Him
If anyone wants to do a re-enactment of 'Thus Saith The Lord' Imma vote for that so hard, Tiamat would felt it!
I feel like I have to note, Viserys believes there is no chance of this being accepted, this is basically an 'end negotiations' button.
- Location
- Germany
We could threaten a total embargo on them.
At this point all connections they have that are not Imperial are basically Qohor or immensly far away and over a highly dangerous land-route through the Dothraki Sea.
We are de facto in a position to choke this city until it joins or dies.
Edit: If we don't play their game, they can only join or start a war, no other options left.
Last edited:
We don't actually know that he chose the in "as good a place as any." We know he wanted the palace but when that got rejected he reluctantly agreed to the inn. Hypothetically, if there were a traitor in the priesthood's ranks, this would be an attack of opportunity. Subtly push Mikaelos into agreeing to meet at a location under control of a rival faction and/or agents were already in place. Just because the serving girl's anger was genuine doesn't mean she couldn't also be either an agent or a cat's paw for some greater organization.
In which case it's probably not a good idea. Not the "ending slavery and religious persecution" parts, obviously. But we at least need them to keep them talking to wheedle out information. We aren't going to find a solution to the problems set out to fix at this meeting, so we should fall back on information gathering and start working on plan B.
You could, though you could not much enforce it. Your borders especially in the wide mostly empty lands of the east are very porous. Also the Norvoshi hinterlands are more than enough for the city to feed itself.
Evaunit02mark1
S-s-smell the Prey, S-s-start the Hunt.
Could we just buy the slaves off them @DragonParadox ?
They clearly hate the Red god and the feeling is mutual. Surely gold would be enough to let them go?
They clearly hate the Red god and the feeling is mutual. Surely gold would be enough to let them go?
- Location
- Germany
I mean we don't have to "enforce" very much.
They literally have to trade with Imperial Cities, because their other options are a land-trip over the undead-infested Dothraki Sea, or sneaking up through (possibly existing) rivers and through really cold waters to Ibben (and I doubt they have many high-sea ships in Norvos).
They have no way of getting to other trading-places that I can see on the map.
The southern and western paths all lead to our ports, or to the Demon Road that we can also easily control.
They are completly isolated from everything except Qohor.
Now that is more of a problem.
But the question is if the cities elites will accept a complete lack of trade.
Right now the lower classes are already extremly unhappy with the situation. If the merchant-Magisters and all non-fanatic nobility start supporting them fully, I doubt the Bearded Priests will stay in power for long.
- Location
- florida
I am somewhat impressed that didnt collapse negotiations.
As for what to actually do with them. Eh.
People are already assuming we are covert supporting the red Faith's take over of the city. Why not actually do so?
Is mel busy?
Edit:
We cant cut them off from other dimensions either. Like the abyss, far realms, hell, ect.
As for what to actually do with them. Eh.
People are already assuming we are covert supporting the red Faith's take over of the city. Why not actually do so?
Is mel busy?
Edit:
We cant cut them off from other dimensions either. Like the abyss, far realms, hell, ect.
Last edited:
My point was that they would trade just fine in Imperial cities.
Imperial Official: "Where are you from"
Norvoshi trader: Qohor, that's it Qohor
IO: You don't look like...
*silver clinks*
IO: Welcome to our Qohori friends
You cannot impose the sort of total embargo you are talking about with as few soldier and lawmen as you have out east and once the goods get ti your realm expect wide-scale use of bribery and middlemen that your mostly medieval infrastructure can't meaniugfully stop. At most you could hurt trade with Norvos, not stop it.
Evaunit02mark1
S-s-smell the Prey, S-s-start the Hunt.
If they're willing to send bandits to kill our people I'm pretty sure they're against any form of negotiations that an Embassy would imply.
Hell right now this guy is basically trying to bribe us to look the other way because we caught the fuckers red handed.
- Location
- ?????????
Trade concessions that favour us is really the best we can ask for. Although I can already tell that this city will be under martial law for a long time. Religious zealots and all that.
- Location
- Argentina
No, see, there are two factions here. The priests, who want to keep tje status quo, and the idiot who sent the bandits and knew of the poisoning, who wants to see everything burn for some reason.
The priests are religiously intolerant, but the problem that the Red Faith represents can probably be lessened once we end with slavery.
The rest is simply bringing enough bribes to join us
- Location
- ?????????
Norvos has an Inquisition base and this month we were gathering intel on the Priesthood. How did that go? Did we get something about that?
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
@DragonParadox, how much does the average slave in Essos cost? And about how many of them are in Norvos?