- Location
- Norway
[X] Plan: THE BOX BECKONS
The Path Unending (A Cultivation Quest)
- Thread starter Vesvius
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- original xianxia cultivation quest
I'm not sure at all Jin is the one being called the moth !
From the reaction to our name we have seen in the creation garden our familly isn't really liked, and with us stepping to get the shinie during the duel, imo the moth is likely a derogatory term for us.
[X] Plan The Box Waits
Would it be possible to turn the Shouxi's social into a Mo social inviting Shouxi ? It's a social gathering so there wouldn't be anything strange with us bringing one of our friends, and Shouxi specifically asked us to introduce him to Mo so I think if we want to deepen our relationship with him that might be better than just drinking tea with him.
And I would also favor DangerKitty's proposition of advancing Siani's quest rather than two hunts.
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I can't just do that without asking the others who voted for my plan...
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Done.
Maybe we'll get an interesting material
- Location
- Domino City
[X] Plan: THE BOX BECKONS Alternative
- Location
- Classified
[X] Plan: THE BOX BECKONS Alternative
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
wait.
Wait
ALARM!
I think I may have figured out Jin Yazhu's real play here.
The Judges.
"Do you attest that this Charm is worked by your own hands?"
"Yes, of course"
"Alright, let's see the diagrams then just to be sure."
"Uhh....."
It's been regularly stated that Kong Zhi doesn't show his work, and disdains even the idea of sketching out his idea and planning everything ahead of time. It's been telegraphed that most Charm crafters don't do that--and indeed most people with an understanding of it go 'Alright let's see the diagr... Wait, what you do itin your head? That's crazy!'
If part of the duel involves 'You need to prove that the Charm was made by you' to get it to count... I don't think "I totally made it though" is going to be good enough.
@Vesvius , are there any ways in construction that Kong Zhi can mark down or otherwise prove that the Charm we're about to build was his own work in a way that can't be trivially dismissed? Like a maker's mark or signature integrated into the Charm design? A way that he won't find innately repulsive? Or is this a trap we just have to take on the chin?
Wait
ALARM!
I think I may have figured out Jin Yazhu's real play here.
The Judges.
"Do you attest that this Charm is worked by your own hands?"
"Yes, of course"
"Alright, let's see the diagrams then just to be sure."
"Uhh....."
It's been regularly stated that Kong Zhi doesn't show his work, and disdains even the idea of sketching out his idea and planning everything ahead of time. It's been telegraphed that most Charm crafters don't do that--and indeed most people with an understanding of it go 'Alright let's see the diagr... Wait, what you do itin your head? That's crazy!'
If part of the duel involves 'You need to prove that the Charm was made by you' to get it to count... I don't think "I totally made it though" is going to be good enough.
@Vesvius , are there any ways in construction that Kong Zhi can mark down or otherwise prove that the Charm we're about to build was his own work in a way that can't be trivially dismissed? Like a maker's mark or signature integrated into the Charm design? A way that he won't find innately repulsive? Or is this a trap we just have to take on the chin?
- Location
- Domino City
I don't think it's just the judges we need to worry about.
While we have set up decoys, my worry is that Jin might find one/more of our charms at some point, swipe them for the duel, and pass them off as his own work. We need some way to mark or protect them in case he tries that.
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
Most of the Charms of our own design are kept on our person and attached in a way that'd be tricky to pinch from us, the only ones otherwise would be the one we're making for sail-boy and Shouxi's rod, but the latter is weak enough to not be a decisive factor.
- Location
- Domino City
It's mainly the box and glove I'm worried about.
While the box will be a tricky item to steal (especially if we can train the Demon to eat Jin if he touches it), I'm seeing hints that we may not be able to wear the glove 24/7.
- Location
- Rochester MN
Either way we do need to have some kind of Makers Mark from now on
[X] Plan: THE BOX BECKONS
- Location
- Brazil
You know, I wonder if the glove might end up as a pseudo-Amulet of Mighty Fists. That'd be nice.
[X] Plan The Box Waits
Gotta say, it really encourages to shoot for the sky when crafting without a deadline. If you succeed, awesome, if not, drive boost until you succeed.
Vesvius
The Wicked God
Luckily for you guys, the way the anam is infused into the charm serves as it's own maker's mark. As yours is infused with the Kong Family Cycling technique, you are in good in the authentication department. So sadly, even though that's a good trap, it's not one that's in the cards.
Picking up on the "Craft for utility/love of crafting" chain of thought, what do people think of making a set of tools that do the opposite of miststeel? Miststeel is apparently valued because it's devoid of anam that could contaminate charms, but the idea here would be to make a set of tools with a wide variety of anam types, so that for any given charm a tool with the right anam type to constructively interfere with the charm would be available.
It would essentially allow Kong Zhi to learn/memorize a great deal of interactions between types of anam, so that they could craft charms using the medium of anam interactions rather than just interactions between a given anam type and physical structure.
I have no real idea what sort of mechanical effect this would produce, or even if it would work - but it seems kinda neat to me.
It would essentially allow Kong Zhi to learn/memorize a great deal of interactions between types of anam, so that they could craft charms using the medium of anam interactions rather than just interactions between a given anam type and physical structure.
I have no real idea what sort of mechanical effect this would produce, or even if it would work - but it seems kinda neat to me.
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
Good to know that this is a risk that we don't have to be concerned about at this juncture.
I know Vesvius said this isn't an issue, but let's consider the world where that wasn't the case and we lose because of that.
1. Our friends will definitely say that it is our charm, and have evidence for that.
2. Everyone knows that the charms we provided for the duel were goddamn terrifying.
3. We get a big drive bonus until we show up Jin Yazhou.
It would be straight up preferable to lose because of that sort of bullshit as it would minimize the negative consequences while still counting as a failure.
Let's be willing to take risks. Please.
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- Pronouns
- They/Them
[X] Plan: THE BOX BECKONS
Can we make saying this a tradition? Like, say it every time someone has some impending catastrophe they think we've missed?
Also, your idea was very insightful, even if it didn't turn out to be plausible. I found your description very vivid too. Thank you.
Okay, I'm all for taking risks, but come on. This is a trap that we might have been able to avoid without even taking another action (adding a maker's mark doesn't feel like an action). Besides, if someone sees a potential trap, I want to hear about it. Alectai did the right thing in bringing it to our attention. If we decided that it was a trap we didn't want to avoid, that would have been our decision. It's better to be informed.
Also, here's a tally.
Can we make saying this a tradition? Like, say it every time someone has some impending catastrophe they think we've missed?
Also, your idea was very insightful, even if it didn't turn out to be plausible. I found your description very vivid too. Thank you.
Okay, I'm all for taking risks, but come on. This is a trap that we might have been able to avoid without even taking another action (adding a maker's mark doesn't feel like an action). Besides, if someone sees a potential trap, I want to hear about it. Alectai did the right thing in bringing it to our attention. If we decided that it was a trap we didn't want to avoid, that would have been our decision. It's better to be informed.
Also, here's a tally.
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- Location
- USA
[X] Plan: THE BOX BECKONS Alternative
I'm comfortable with the slight risks this entails. Worst case we get a drive bonus when we try again.
I'm comfortable with the slight risks this entails. Worst case we get a drive bonus when we try again.
There's no prompt for a write-in, so the action will probably result in a new vote for it.
We should definitely not have anyone hold back information. However our trait basically adds 3 successes towards cycling towards a technique for every action we take. More dice will rapidly turn that to 4. Once our athletics improves to 6 it will become even more valuable.
Being able to have that for the foreseeable future for the mere price of likely some social stress? While everyone important knows the truth and we still get all the commissions we could ever want from curious onlookers? We should be actively looking for those kinds of opportunities.
I don't want us to lose opportunities to get that sort of free buff in the future. Ideally we would always be operating in the shadow of one failure or another.
- Location
- USA
I'm not in favor of deliberately failing in order to try to game the drive mechanic. Sounds like a great way to end up getting some negative traits. Keep in mind that there aren't any hard and fast rules for trait gain, so abusing the system could create one. We basically got our current trait because the QM wants us to take risks. Let's not prompt a trait to avoid deliberate failure.
I also think your misinterpretating how the trait works. Failing at crafting challenge will not help us cycle the dance or cow horn pokey.
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