Awesome. The Imperium has plenty of use for murderhobos. :D @DragonParadox, would you mind making a ruling?

They would be dragons thus quite capable of gaining levels if presented with sufficient challenge.

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  • [X] Follow the paper trail of more mundane documents Garin copied to find out who was financing the hidden temple of the Lady of Spears, money will always reveal secrets, be they of gods or men
 
Ask DP. I personally think they are rather suited to gaining class-levels the murderhobo way, as murderhoboing is their hobby. As opposed to canon Reds who sleep on their piles of gold for decades. The lazy fucks.
Didn't you write them as quite hoard-sensitive? Going adventuring usually means leaving the hoard behind. And a bunch of undead are not the same as The Dragon guarding it.
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You also wrote them as able to cooperate. Now, a group of dragons time-sharing guard duties while one or two of the group go adventuring, that would be relatively novel for dragons.
 
Didn't you write them as quite hoard-sensitive? Going adventuring usually means leaving the hoard behind. And a bunch of undead are not the same as The Dragon guarding it.
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You also wrote them as able to cooperate. Now, a group of dragons time-sharing guard duties while one or two of the group go adventuring, that would be relatively novel for dragons.
In our case, I'd wager they will use the Iron Bank to guard their hoards.

It would mean that a literal army and over a dozen high-level PCs, lead by a core party of Mythic archmage-grade casters guarantees that their hoards are safe.
 
In our case, I'd wager they will use the Iron Bank to guard their hoards.

It would mean that a literal army and over a dozen high-level PCs, lead by a core party of Mythic archmage-grade casters guarantees that their hoards are safe.
Dragon bank accounts are something I've been looking forward to for quite a while now.
 
Can someone remind me when and how Dragons get the ability to change into human form?
Some Metallics have it as an ability in regular D&D, but DP allows Dragons to use the common Alter Self to take temporary human shape.
Without that it would propably take a Polymorph, or greater spell for longer effects.

Edit: Silver and Gold Dragons have Alternate Form from birth, Bronze Dragons from Young age onwards.
 
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Can someone remind me when and how Dragons get the ability to change into human form?
It varies between breeds, but most never do unless they learn magic to help them. The only ones innately able to do it, IIRC, are some of the Metallics when they reach certain Age Categories.
 
In this quest any spellcasting Dragon can do it with Alter Self. There's also a feat that allows Dragons to do it in Eberron, but IIRC it requires CL 5.
 
Kinda tempted to finagle it into Umbral Scion II, just so that we can have Teenage Goth Dragons.
Otherwise they would get Alter Self and thus human form at Adult.
 
Kinda tempted to finagle it into Umbral Scion II, just so that we can have Teenage Goth Dragons.
Otherwise they would get Alter Self and thus human form at Adult.
i need to see this now thanks,
also i have a feeling that some of the younger ones might try to tag along with Glyra sometimes to pull tricks and scare the shit out of people all over the world
 
Kinda tempted to finagle it into Umbral Scion II, just so that we can have Teenage Goth Dragons.
Otherwise they would get Alter Self and thus human form at Adult.
I would stick with them having to achieve a Human form using magic. That's how all the other Dragons in the quest have done it.

I still remember how surprised I was when we discovered that Relath had advanced enough to learn Alter Self and take Human form...right around the time we learned he'd humped his way through the unattached female members of Tolos' ruling families...
 
This was a cunning Devil-plan, and I like it a lot. Good to see them getting shit done, even if it's inconvenient for us.
 
so this is a question from me since i only really know 5e but with all the dragon types which god generally is for which?
i know Timmi has control of chromats and Bahamut(again idk how to spell his name) metallics.
but what about like brine dragons, amethysts, hex dragons ect. i'm curious and really don't know
 
I would stick with them having to achieve a Human form using magic. That's how all the other Dragons in the quest have done it.

I still remember how surprised I was when we discovered that Relath had advanced enough to learn Alter Self and take Human form...right around the time we learned he'd humped his way through the unattached female members of Tolos' ruling families...
I was thinking about just adding 3/day Alter Self SLA, but fine, fine.

Adult Goth Dragons then.

Oberyn: "I can work with that."

Nobody asked. Or is surprised.

Oberyn: :ogles:
 
I was thinking about just adding 3/day Alter Self SLA, but fine, fine.

Adult Goth Dragons then.

Oberyn: "I can work with that."

Nobody asked. Or is surprised.

Oberyn: :ogles:
are you planning on giving Oberyn a big titty goth dragon girlfriend? becouse that sir is genious, can't wait to see what kind of daughter that will spawn
 
I was thinking about just adding 3/day Alter Self SLA, but fine, fine.

Adult Goth Dragons then.

Oberyn: "I can work with that."

Nobody asked. Or is surprised.

Oberyn: :ogles:
They can always advance in Sorcerer levels through some youthful adventuring.

After being warned away from overly amorous Dornishmen.
 
so this is a question from me since i only really know 5e but with all the dragon types which god generally is for which?
i know Timmi has control of chromats and Bahamut(again idk how to spell his name) metallics.
but what about like brine dragons, amethysts, hex dragons ect. i'm curious and really don't know
They don't have innate control, just significant influence. They're progenitors of those Dragon breeds, but there have been other Dragon gods, and Dragons are so prolific and magically potent, that they can arise from all sorts of places, including unions between Dragons of different species.

Basically, no one controls them.
 
They don't have innate control, just significant influence. They're progenitors of those Dragon breeds, but there have been other Dragon gods, and Dragons are so prolific and magically potent, that they can arise from all sorts of places, including unions between Dragons of different species.

Basically, no one controls them.
okay good to know. i was just curious about where people would fall since we've seen shadow and nightmare dragons on Timmi's side i was wondering if simmilairly Bahamut had his own not necesarrily metallic dragons in his corner
 
okay good to know. i was just curious about where people would fall since we've seen shadow and nightmare dragons on Timmi's side i was wondering if simmilairly Bahamut had his own not necesarrily metallic dragons in his corner
We know very little about Bahamut in this quest, beyond the fact that he would find our practices highly distasteful and would demand we stop committing sacrifices, working with our Devils, etc. So we won't be seeking him out.
 
We know very little about Bahamut in this quest, beyond the fact that he would find our practices highly distasteful and would demand we stop committing sacrifices, working with our Devils, etc. So we won't be seeking him out.
hmmm oh welll (never actually knew why he didn't like us but seeing that from an aincient lawfull good dragon god makes sense. i wonder if we will ever find or make a metallic dragon corpe to give us acces to them while flesh crafting, i mean probebly not but who knows
 
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