When Zathir was reborn, it was in the literal sense, and he used that opportunity to extract himself from a position Asmodeus himself put him into.

I am pretty sure there are a bunch of other things to concern oneself with in the matter, such as losing your previous divine status and merely becoming a weak and killable entity. And most prideful beings aren't just loath to lose that much power, they literally cannot force themselves to, as it goes against their very nature.

It's a way harder challenge than you are presenting it to be, with its own set of roadblocks, hurdles and downsides.
Zathir as far as I can tell never made a deal directly with Asmodeus, he was traded off like property as part of Heaven's bargain to be guarded by the Infernal Legions. There was no bargain that he managed to simply shrug off in his rebirth, he never had a say in his arrangements in the first place.

But fundamentally, I don't like the idea of this being solved through Yss. There's definitely a trend of the thread turning to the Yss Vending Machine every time they want something, and I'm not a fan of it being used here of all places.
 
Oh, I never saw Yss as helping us out here, this seems like more of a personal challenge for Meraxes.

I think, also, it is forgetting that Meraxes and the Fourteen already slipped the noose of Asmodeus' deal, it's just that there was a secondary clause linking the Fifteenth to the power that they absorbed.

I guess if it is impossible for her to reincarnate herself but on a divine level like Zathir, our only choice really is to kill Fifteen Across the Face.

But Asmodeus is irrelevant outside of him having a direct connection to Straw Nihilist God.
 
That does honestly seem really cheap to me. Mere character development shouldn't be anywhere near enough to sever a deal with Asmodeus of all devils. This is the deific equivalent of going, "I'm not that person anymore. Those deals I made don't apply to me."
Depends on what you mean by character development. Changing something about yourself is messy and painful, but changing who you are as Maraxes would need to is the same as dying in a lot of ways.

The "mere" growth this would require is for a dragon goddess formed by someone who had the will and pride to challenge the whole world and win that they have been fundamentally wrong. That the traits that let them make it this far are now a poison, and the only way for anything to persist of them is to acknowledge this and cast them away.

The person who would come out the other side wouldn't be Maraxes any more, it'd be the goddess she passed the torch to in hopes that this new person she had made can do more with her legacy than she could.

Even with Yss' help (supposing he could do so at all) getting to the point were she'd allow it would be a significant task for everyone involved.
 
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  • [X] Plan Angelic Interrupt
    -[X] Viserys uses the group's Telepathic Bond to hurriedly tell Tyene to cast a Quickened Greater Angelic Aspect spell and get within range of the possessed Shugenja. Waymar will Quickcast a Dimension Door to get her close enough, if necessary. The double-sized Magic Circle Against Evil effect will immediately purge the possessing mage from the Shugenja.
    -[X] Lya will use Celerity and Maze to temporarily shunt the possessed Shugenja out of our Plane of existence if Tyene and Waymar are not quick enough.
    -[X] Continue on with the plan to Earthquake the Golden Company safe house to hedge out the mages hiding within.
    [X] Stop messing around and just capture them already
    -[X] Viserys casts Project Image, making the image appear somewhere hidden from view. If it's possible to use Miracle to make the Image look like a Luminary, he does so. The idea is to be able to intervene without revealing our position.
    -[X] Viserys uses his belt of battle to make the Image cast an Amber Sacrophagus (from another angle, of course, so that they don't know we were in that building all along). If that fails, Celerity and do it again.
    -[X] If that fails again, follow Goldfish's plan or something.
 
Part MMMCCCXXV: False Ange's Judgment
False Angel's Judgment

Thirteenth Day of the Twelfth Month 293 AC

"Tyene, cast him out!" you call out in your mind, the words carried by threads of sorcery to her mind's ear.

Wordless understanding flows back along the spell-bond. The magic of possession is a powerful thing, it can whisper lies from trusted lips, steal from the most guarded of vaults and even sow death with an unknowing hand, but it is also fragile. Some might call the spell she weaves in place of light-woven chains blasphemy, but such is not your concern this day nor is it hers.

The sand beneath her feet stirs and catches evening's golden light, it flows up and around, enveloping her until blood burns and all the frailties of flesh are lost in a haze of false angelic radiance. Not angels as they are, either those fallen or those enduing, but rather the reflection in the mortal mind of what an angel is. Tales the world over tell that angels will not bear the company of fiends that would steal away a man's mind and usurp his form. That this was not a demon but a sorcerer mattered not one whit.


The Jie Quiang's knees buckle, staff still in his hand as he stares blankly forward before slipping from nerveless fingers only to vanish into some other realm. He had been cursed or perhaps drugged to the point where he could not resist the possession. That was fore-thoughtful of your enemies you have to grant... but not fore-thoughtful enough.

You turn your gaze towards the townhouse that now holds both the mage twin's body and soul and command the stone beneath it: "Quake." If they do not flee it will be their tomb.

Flares and flashes of nacreous green and sickly yellow race across the crumbling stonework and breaking wood as the wards fail alongside their material foundation, though thankfully nothing worse than plumes of steam and gusts of ash strike your companions. You see it all only in the corner of your eye, for like all the others at your side you turn as soon as the last of the incantation is spoken. You feel as much as hear the shiver of translocation.

Only Raerys appears before you looking much the worse for wear, his robes torn and bloodied but the archmage's staff still in hand. His brother must have managed to resist the trap, though you cannot say if he has managed to then escape the collapsing manse or if...

The mage shimmers as though trapped between worlds, a second spell of translocation triggering before the first one even had time to fully manifest. A contingency against being translocated into danger either by accident or malice, you realize. The words by which time are swift upon your lips, but not swifter than Lya's. It seems she has remembered your curse for the false envoy in Vialesk since Raerys drips into the floorboards as saltwater. Only the staff is untouched and before anyone can grasp it, the thing flashes away again in a sheet of sullen red light.

"There!" Rina points out the window again. A bird was rising from the still collapsing townhouse, an eagle with bright red bands along its wings and a golden staff in its talons. Raerys' brother must have received it after he transformed and took flight. His greed in wishing to keep it will be his undoing yet...

What do you do?

[] Try to capture the eagle yourself
-[] Write in

[] Ask the party in the street to capture the eagle, they are already visible
-[] Write in

[] Write in


OOC: A bit short, but with battle it can't really be helped unfortunately. There are a lot of break points. You have one out of two mages so far.
 
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The sorcerers are smarter than anticipated. They might even have a wisdom score between all of them. Not much of one since they still serve tiamat, but still.
 
False Ange's Judgment

Thirteenth Day of the Twelfth Month 293 AC

"Tyene, cast him out!" you call out in your mind, the words carried by threads of sorcery to her mind's ear.

Wordless understanding flows back along the spell-bond. The magic of possession is a powerful thing, it can whisper lies from trusted lips, steal from the most guarded of vaults, and even sow death with an unknowing hand, but it is also fragile. Some might call the spell she weaves in place of light-woven chains blasphemy, but such is not your concern this day, nor is it hers.

The sand beneath her feet stirs and catches evening's golden light. It flows up and around, enveloping her until blood burns and all the frailties of flesh are lost in a haze of false angelic radiance, not angels as they are, either those fallen or those enduring, but rather the reflection in the mortal mind of what an angel is. Tales the world over tell that angels will not bear the company of fiends that would steal away a man's mind and usurp his form. That this was not a demon but a sorcerer mattered not one whit.


The Jie Quiang's knees buckle, staff still in his hand as he stares blankly forward. The staff slips from nerveless fingers only to vanish into some other realm. He had been cursed or perhaps drugged to the point where he could not resist the possession. That was forethoughtful of your enemies, you have to admit... but not forethoughtful enough.

You turn your gaze towards the townhouse that now holds both the mage twins, body and soul, and command the stone beneath it to, "Quake." If they do not flee, it will become their tomb.

Flares and flashes on nacreous green and sickly yellow race across the crumbling stonework and breaking wood as the wards fail alongside their material foundation, though thankfully nothing worse than plumes of steam and gusts of ash strike your companions. You see it all only in the corner of your eye, for like all the others at your side you turn as soon as the last of the incantation is spoken. You feel as much as hear the shiver of translocation.

Only Raerys appears before you looking much the worse for wear, his robes torn and bloodied but the archmage's staff still in hand. His brother must have managed to resist the trap, though you cannot say if he has managed to then escape the collapsing manse or if...

The mage shimmers as though trapped between worlds, a second spell of translocation triggering before the first one even had time to fully manifest. A contingency against being translocated into danger either by accident or malice, you realize, though. The words by which time bends are swift upon your lips but not swifter than Lya's. It seems she has remembered your curse for the false envoy in Vialkesk, as the mage drips into the floorboards as salt water. Only the staff is untouched and before anyone can grasp it, the thing flashes away again in a sheet of sullen red light.

"There!" Rina points out the window again. A bird was rising from the still collapsing townhouse, an eagle with bright red bands along its wings and a golden staff in its talons. Raerys must have received it after he transformed and took flight. His greed in wishing to keep it will be his undoing yet...

What do you do?

[] Try to capture the eagle yourself
-[] Write in

[] Ask the party in the street to capture the eagle, they are already visibile
-[] Write in

[] Write in


OOC: A bit short, but with battle it can't really be helped unfortunately. There are a lot of break points. You have one out of two mages so far. Not yet edited.
Here's an edited version of the chapter, DP.

At the end, I think you used the wrong name for the brother who transformed into an eagle.
 
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Right, so since he is in a bird form right now, we could cap him and use the amber sarcophagus to keep him still. We may also want to use an anti-magic field for the second guy, we can't let any info get out about us until we are ready.
 
I wish we weren't hiding. Then we could just use Shadow Of The Doom, and fuck that guy.

In the meantime, it's nice of him to flee that way. I was afraid he would polymorph into a mole or something, and rely on his Divination immunity to hide him while he slowly dug his way out.
What an idiot, honestly. Just flying away?

...

Check for illusions, people!
 
We have to act quickly to get to the mage before he flies out of the Teleport Trap and tries to Teleport to safety.

[X] Viserys casts a Quickened Teleport spell to get himself and Richard well within range of the fleeing mage, then uses Wild Arcana to target him with an Amber Sarcophagus spell. Richard activates his earring to gain True Seeing as Viserys Teleports them, and will warn him if the eagle is an illusion or decoy before he attempts to capture it.
-[X] Lya activates her Bead of Karma to raise her caster level to 21, then uses a Targeted Greater Dispel Magic spell on the eagle, timed to hit it just after Viserys and Richard arrive nearby.
-[X] In the meantime, Rina gathers up Raerys into a container while Tyene's group Teleports the insensate Shugenja back to our hiding spot.
-[X] Still warded by Superior Invisibility and her other spells, Varys scouts out the collapsed townhouse and it's surroundings.
 
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BTW, @egoo, I meant to mention this a while back, but got sidetracked somehow.

Here's another way to further enhance Viserys' Will saves (Fortitude and Reflex saves, too), if you want to update the list. All we need to do is craft (7,200 IM) or purchase (14,400 IM) a +5 Guardian Dagger (or some other weapon, though a dagger is more practical).

That's another +5 increase to whatever saving throw we need boosted each round, since it only needs a Free Action to activate.
Seems like you have to actually use the weapon to get the benefit:
As a free action, the wielder chooses how to allocate the weapon's enhancement bonus at the start of his turn before using the weapon
If you are not about to use it, you don't seem to get the chance to use Guarding.
 
Got to say enemy or not I'm rather impressed with these guys. We've been throwing them curve balls left and right but damn if they don't roll with the punches where they can.

It's not going to save them of course, but credit where credit is due.
 
[X] Viserys casts a Quickened Teleport spell to get himself and Richard well within range of the fleeing mage
Careful not to port into our own trap?

Actually Greater Dispel has a decent range, can we first try to hit him with that from where we are?
That way we would dispel an illusion, or make the real mage fall back into the ruins, if he is there.
 
Careful not to port into our own trap?

Actually Greater Dispel has a decent range, can we first try to hit him with that from where we are?
That way we would dispel an illusion, or make the real mage fall back into the ruins, if he is there.
I didn't specify it in the plan which lead to Teleport Trap being used, but the spell can have exceptions to who it affects, based on various factors. Viserys would have grandfathered in everyone in the group so they could bypass the trap.

I'll add hitting the eagle with a Dispel to my plan.
 
Canon Omake: Twilight Eclipsed
Twilight Eclipsed
Thirteenth Day of the Twelfth Month 293 AC

Staring in mild disbelief above a letter delivered by a Greater Raven just before sunrise that day, Aradia could only shake her head as the flickering of the campfire shone across the faces of the returning Ser Gerold and Ilias, the former sporting a rapidly bruising black eye and the the latter with mildly disheveled hair and a split lip. Pointedly, neither looked at the other and behaved as if everything was as normal, though there was little of the previous tension ever-present whenever they had just gotten into an argument. They had been quarreling over just about any martial matter you could name since their mission had started, and only now did they fill their camp with blessed silence?

"Well he wasn't wrong," Uriah replied, having followed her off to bag a couple of rabbits for the pot allegedly. The two ducked under a low hanging branch. "He was just determined to be an insufferable..."

"Ass, about it?" Uriah paused, as though considering the suggestion carefully, before nodding at her word choice as though supremely satisfied. Aradia tried not to laugh, though it was a losing prospect.

"She was looking for a fight," Uriah said, surprising Aradia as they loosed a pair of arrows which secured their dinner mid-flight. "The Sisterhood you see," she carefully did not smile so as to disguise how amusing she must have found the informal nomenclature the Erinyes had been gifted by some clever Legion captain somewhere, though Aradia knew more than one of the Bateezu had a sense of humor, even if it was usually off-color and private. "We've noticed more than one mortal with skill beyond what is normally exhibited outside of battlefields on the front lines of the War. It is normal, to be curious that is."

"Oh?" Aradia said playfully, eliciting a rolling of the eyes from the fallen. "You lot are a gossip's bane, I tell you," she said with faux regret.

"Hm, perhaps I should tell the Inquisition to make a note of that in our files." Aradia whipped her head toward the devil. Uriah wasn't smiling, there wasn't even a crinkle at the corners of their eyes, but she knew that the fallen was laughing at her.

***​

"All that anger over a sword," Ilias said, almost playfully, though the haughty tone she took wasn't as venomous as an hour ago Gerold noted. "It seems almost childish. Surely that spellsteel blade is just as effective?" Darkstar clenched a hand around the sword of Valyrian Steel at his side, before relaxing, knowing now as he didn't then that she was still deliberately provoking him.

"It's what it represents, more than what it can do," Gerold replied, knowing a sword was about as useful as a stick when not wielded by a true warrior. He was thankful for the blade of dragonsteel, the enchanted armor and the magic talismans, the tomes and philters and other accouterments that some fighter of myth might walk out of a page with, thankful for the trust placed in him by the King, enough that he was feeling some inkling of true loyalty to a cause outside of himself, though he was a cynic at heart.

He knew just as surely that there were stipulations that came alongside that trust. Killing monsters was just one part of that, working with the likes of the frigid bitches another. "Waiting for the right kind of Knight to rise up helped Dorne plenty, eh?" There hasn't been a knight like me, Gerold thought. He wasn't Arthur Dayne.

"But isn't that to your advantage?" Ilias said coldly, staring at him with none of the dark amusement that glittered in her black eyes a moment ago, merely razor-sharp focus. "To not have the expectations of the virtuous hanging over your head." Would Arthur Dayne care about men being murdered on the road by monsters, for all that he had slain bandits at the King's command? Did he even care before he had been ordered to run them to the ground? The Kingswood Brotherhood had operated for years, for all they had ended with the swing of Dawn's milkglass blade.

"If being a hero were easy," Gerold hissed in true anger, the first flush of it that he'd felt talking to this vexing woman, "Then everyone would do it."

"Hm." She tossed her head, glamoured hair a flaxen curtain of pale locks. She scattered a handful of dust into the fire, making shadows flicker and dance to uncertain rhythms. "You claim to see the world for what it is. Heroes chasing glory and songs spinning wheels as if it were not their intent."

"Risk and reward," Ser Gerold replied, staring at the fire. "Men have vices like women and gold, but there are piles of both waiting to be grasped by merchants rubbing their fingers together or any man with a full purse or a ready smile." It's what was out of reach for most that he lusted for, but recent months had made him more aware of that, what he risked at times greater than his life which was temporal and impermanent. Sometimes one risked their very soul.

Realization struck him just then. "I will never be a mere pawn," he blurted, standing and nearly throwing the words back into her face. "I fight for..." What did he fight for? Months ago he would have said 'himself', as he hadn't met anyone he'd be willing to die for, even if the prospect of death itself was one he was willing to meet as all warriors must be.

She looked at him with an uncharacteristic weariness. "Everyone is a slave to something." Even Ilias realized the flaw in her logic a moment later, scowling, though not at the knight. "Though perhaps some less than others."

He thought long and hard about it, long enough for a skewer of roasted pigeon to be shoved into his hand by the archer spirit, long enough for the fire to nearly die to embers.

"What the Hells am I fighting for?" He whispered. Gerold looked up, startled by the woman's sudden presence.

"For now? The Realm," Ilias replied, almost bashful were she even capable of the slightest hint of shame or embarrassment at the unsolicited commiseration. Gerold himself missed the irony in the words, a Devil speaking of hope offered in a humble cup rather than a poisoned chalice. The 'Realm' indeed could encompass many things, hope for tomorrow, home and even a legacy beyond himself and deeds that might lie forgotten even as mighty giants like Brandon the Builder and Durran Godsgrief only had the monoliths left in their wake to remind men that they existed. If he did not build something and only dealt death, he would be forgotten, too.

Perhaps I should learn magic, Gerold thought. He had thought of all the ways healing and sharper blades could make him a better warrior, but he was not going to live forever that slaughtering murderous fey out in the woods would be recorded in a book as more than a footnote. Men always tended to get the details wrong, as well. I could at least keep reminding others just what I'm capable of.

It was a prospect to at least consider.
 
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I wish we weren't hiding. Then we could just use Shadow Of The Doom, and fuck that guy.

In the meantime, it's nice of him to flee that way. I was afraid he would polymorph into a mole or something, and rely on his Divination immunity to hide him while he slowly dug his way out.
What an idiot, honestly. Just flying away?

...

Check for illusions, people!

A mole would struggle to dig though stone ruble and collapsed timbers, not to mention it would risk being burred alive as the rubble settled. Something like Xorn movement would have been perfect, but that is a pretty rare and specialized spell.
 
@Goldfish, hasn't Viserys been careful not to involve himself at any point until now? Should we really end that streak?
Viserys and the others should also be disguised by this point, so I don't see the issue.

Plan updated.

[X] Viserys casts a Quickened Teleport spell to get himself and Richard well within range of the fleeing mage, then uses Wild Arcana to target him with an Amber Sarcophagus spell. Richard activates his earring to gain True Seeing as Viserys Teleports them, and will warn him if the eagle is an illusion or decoy before he attempts to capture it.
-[X] Lya activates her Bead of Karma to raise her caster level to 21, then uses a Targeted Greater Dispel Magic spell on the eagle, timed to hit it just after Viserys and Richard arrive nearby.
-[X] In the meantime, Rina gathers up Raerys into a container while Tyene's group Teleports the insensate Shugenja back to our hiding spot.
-[X] Still warded by Superior Invisibility and her other spells, Varys scouts out the collapsed townhouse and it's surroundings.
 
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