Gather Information is our friend when Divination is made unavailable. No matter how great they are, they probably can't hide from Garin. They're wizards and clerics, they're not going to have invested that many skillpoints in sneaking and subterfuge. Not as much as a proper high level rogue.
What sort of questions will Garin be asking? IIRC you can't Gather Information for "this person in disguise" without having some idea of the disguise (assuming the disguise will fool most people).

EDIT : And AFAIK our contacts are 1 person. And she doesn't seem to have useful connections to discreetly search the city either.
 
What sort of questions will Garin be asking? IIRC you can't Gather Information for "this person in disguise" without having some idea of the disguise (assuming the disguise will fool most people).

EDIT : And AFAIK our contacts are 1 person. And she doesn't seem to have useful connections to discreetly search the city either.
Ugh, I wish DP wouldn't give us options to vote on that are functionally impossible to us.
 
What sort of questions will Garin be asking? IIRC you can't Gather Information for "this person in disguise" without having some idea of the disguise (assuming the disguise will fool most people).

EDIT : And AFAIK our contacts are 1 person. And she doesn't seem to have useful connections to discreetly search the city either.
Ugh, I wish DP wouldn't give us options to vote on that are functionally impossible to us.
Well... two of the clerics aren't Mind Blanked.

But I'm nervous about divining them. I'm not sure if they'd be alerted if we hit them with a Discern Location.
 
Ugh, so busy at work today. :cry:

What if we didn't do anything, and just waited until the GC makes their move against Trader Town, or vice versa? Or even act to precipitate it?
 
I would rather know what they're doing if we're not going to try to prevent them from doing it, so we can interrupt it further along the chain of events.

So I guess we should poke around their intelligence.
 
Ugh, so busy at work today. :cry:

What if we didn't do anything, and just waited until the GC makes their move against Trader Town, or vice versa? Or even act to precipitate it?
To be fair as far as I'm concerned the main issue of this operation is making sure all of our fish are in the barrel before we pull the trigger. If this attack means that they're all focused here, or at the very least going to gather for a big assault, then I say we pull an Azel, nuke them twice as a doorknocker, and then stroll in from behind to pick up the party favors for Grandma's surprise mugging Birthday party.
 
Exactly. If we go into the city, we'll probably find the weaker ones easily enough. However unless the Mind Blanked ones are with them, we probably won't get those.
 
Interlude DCCXIX: To Speak in Jest and Die in Earnest
To Speak in Jest and Die in Earnest

Twelfth Day of the Twelfth Month 293 AC

Valley of the Lost Clans, Fronstfangs, Far North

There were cornflowers among the grass, blue as the summer sky, blue as ice glinting on the jagged peaks. Though the cold did not touch him Thoros of Myr shivered as he stepped through the rustling bear-grass and sent a prayer to R'hllor with his next breath. No battle prayer this to fill him with the righteous fury of His fire or healing light in his hour of need, only simple words such he might have spoken long ago in the temple's rectory when the world seemed a simpler place. The priest glanced at his companions, trying to guess if they would push to the barrows this evening or camp again to the sighs of the northern wind.

The Red Viper would want to press on that much he was certain of, the mad did nothing by half whether it came to wine, women or war, and judging from the expression of almost cat-like anticipation upon the face of the Lady of Naath this endeavor had come to involve both the latter two. Thoros wished the Dornishman all the joy of it, for beautiful as she might be Thoros had no desire to half-embrace the grave. What she thought of the matter was more than Thoros could guess, other than the brief flash of frustration she showed at the fact that none of them dared fly through these skies. I'll not regret the Hell steed that's for certain, the priest thought to himself.

By contrast Clegane's face was as easy to read as a sky full of storm clouds and just as dark, though not at the danger they were walking into. The Hound had taken poorly to being separated from the Princess while she went into danger, no matter that she would have Ser Lonmouth there to guard her. How times change. Thoros briefly tried to imagine the Hound regretting not having Cersei Lannister's company. He laughed loud and clear, the sound strange to these peaks and vales.

"Care to share the reason for your good cheer with the rest of us poor travelers, your holiness," Oberyn Martell called.

Another priest might have taken the jesting title poorly, but Thoros for all his renewed faith reasoned the Lord of Light must have a fair sense of humor about the world else his tears would have drowned it long ago. "I was imagining Cersei Lannister on some distant venture risking life and limb like the King and the Princess go off on..."

"I would not mind having her with us right now," the Dornishman said with a cold smile.

"You wouldn't?" Thoros asked curiously, though he knew there was some sort of sting in the tale waiting for him.

"Of course not, we could just stake her in front of the barrow to see what comes out to eat her," came the reply.

"Alas, it looks like someone has had the notion before you," Wyla said, motioning ahead where the morning mists had pulled back just enough to reveal a group of people, wildlings from the looks of their furs though bearing mostly weapons of stone not bronze like the Thenns. Ahead of the crowd a ragged figure stumbled, pushed along with the buts of spears and taunts towards the looming mass of a barrow.

"There's only what thirty of 'em of that," the Hound said eyeing them up. "I say we deal with 'em before going in the barrow. Don't like having enemies at our backs."

"A fair tactical assessment, but we do not yet know if tactics will be required," Lady Drekelis said, motioning for Velen to come out of her mage bag. The phoenix flew so low to the ground he almost set the grass on fire with his wings, and judging from the shouts and pointing he had certainly gotten the wildlings' attention. Hopefully he would be able to get some answers too.

OOC: Not a lot of action, but I figured it would be interesting to look in on Thoros for a bit. He tends to get overshadowed by more extroverted characters like Oberyn, or more powerful ones like Wyla.
 
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No, that would take exceptional magic on the level of an artifact.Discern location is very powerful as divinations go.
Okay. That seems like a relatively safe bet then @Crake. We can locate the non-Mind Blanked clerics, and then while discreetly observing them try to see if we can spot their Mind Blanked fellow cultists nearby. It's not perfect but it's a start.
 
Okay. That seems like a relatively safe bet then @Crake. We can locate the non-Mind Blanked clerics, and then while discreetly observing them try to see if we can spot their Mind Blanked fellow cultists nearby. It's not perfect but it's a start.
I think they'd account for that... OTOH, figuring out what the peons are doing might be useful and give us that lead Talon mentioned.
 
[X] There's is very little chance that the group of mages in Trader Town's current activities do not in some way relate to their next objective. Pursue with deception in mind and determine how to intervene or if you have the opportunity to coordinate with Pol Ning and her people or not.
-[X] As a start, utilize Discern Location on the mages who aren't currently protected by Mindblank.
 
Generally speaking, if we look for Mindblanked mages by mundane methods, we can do what we would do if we were hunting our minions.

Ask for strangers looking for reagents and chasing rumors, ask for people asking strange questions, ask for people trying to buy and talk their way into local powerstructures.
It's not impossible, just difficult and likely somewhat time-consuming, not beyond a good Gather Information roll.
 
Generally speaking, if we look for Mindblanked mages by mundane methods, we can do what we would do if we were hunting our minions.

Ask for strangers looking for reagents and chasing rumors, ask for people asking strange questions, ask for people trying to buy and talk their way into local powerstructures.
It's not impossible, just difficult and likely somewhat time-consuming, not beyond a good Gather Information roll.
Ears of the City can help us double-down on it, too, to weed out bad avenues of questioning for Garin.
 
I love how Sandor takes one look at 30+ murderous Wildlings, glances at his three compatriots, and has zero concern that they might have issues slaughtering all of them. And no one among their number bats an eyelash.

Meanwhile, the Wildlings who are about to see the group will think something along the lines of "Jackpot!", right up until the blood starts flowing and the dismembered limbs flying.
 
I love how Sandor takes one look at 30+ murderous Wildlings, glances at his three compatriots, and has zero concern that they might have issues slaughtering all of them. And no one among their number bats an eyelash.

Meanwhile, the Wildlings who are about to see the group will think something along the lines of "Jackpot!", right up until the blood starts flowing and the dismembered limbs flying.
We're talking barbarians equipped as such against elite agents of the Imperium decked out in prohibitively expensive magic equipment. I wouldn't expect any wildling to stand up to a Valyrian-Steel-clad Sandor Clegane.
 
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