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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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[X] Remain in Mardja and try to find more mercenaries
-[X] With the festival in full swing for another two weeks, there may not be any sizable mercenary companies in the area who are not already bound by contract. If we cannot find any within a day, we will travel to Kelasi to learn more of the conflict between the Emir and Galzerai. Rather than seeking to speak to the Emir himself, we will instead spend the day seeking out more rumors and accounts from those citizens we are able to speak with, along with using Divination magic such as Ears of the City to learn more.
-[X] If there are mercenary companies available to hire, however, we will attempt to arrange meetings with their representatives to learn the size of their companies, the composition of their forces, and the price for their services.
-[X] If you're at the point where available mercenaries have to be hunted down personally because it isn't immediately obvious if there are any mercenaries available, PC or otherwise, you are instead going to use the day to 'instigate' (pay for) a few rumors to be spread yourself, telling prospective champions (individuals selling their premium services) and Free Company captains to offer their services at your Embassy in Vialesk. You will also insert the pay that your two current companies managed to secure (long-term contract at equitable terms plus many, many services from yourself that they couldn't hope to find elsewhere) among those rumors. You will spread similar rumors in Vialesk when you pick up your orders. If that doesn't drive anyone with empty pockets and no contract towards your war, you don't really know of anything that will.
 
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Azel said:
So the real question is: Do I care?

Run a tally to find out my feelings.
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And this is why that sort of reasoning (that present actions have no impact on future challenges) is so corrosive to playing and enjoying a game. if you guys do not trust me not do do that sort of thing well there's no point in me writing anymore.

I'm sorry if this is too blunt. It just hit a nerve and I felt I needed to adress it in the most direct way posibile.
 
DragonParadox said:
And this is why that sort of reasoning (that present actions have no impact on future challenges) is so corrosive to playing and enjoying a game. if you guys do not trust me not do do that sort of thing well there's no point in me writing anymore.

I'm sorry if this is too blunt. It just hit a nerve and I felt I needed to adress it in the most direct way posibile.
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Understandable. It's a reasonable stance to take.
 
Duesal said:
@DragonParadox, the following is what I've got for populations of True Dragons:


Plane of Water -- Anywhere from 12 to 30 Brine Dragons from Young to Mature Adult swimming about trying to scrape together their own domains, much like Relath was once upon a time.

Beyond the Wall -- Unknown amount of Frost Dragons.

Shadow Plane -- Unknown amount of Shadow Dragons.

Valyria -- Unknown amount of Magma Dragons.

Prime Material (the Imperium) -- Mind Dragons which were created by Flesh Smiths of the Imperium at the behest of the Emperor. Four were crafted in the first batch using Pseudodragons as a template.


Can we get more info now that we know more about the Planes? What dragon populations are in the Plane of Air, Earth, and Fire? Are there any other species in the Plane of Water aside from Brine Dragons?
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Considering the vastness of the planes and the ease with which true dragons above a certain age can melt into the population centers, impersonate other sorts of being etc... That said outside the plane of water and the Brine Dragons draconic dominions do not play a major role in the planar politics. Those dragons you got rumors about on the plane of earth for instance are the only known major players in that part of existence who are openly dragons.
 
DragonParadox said:
And this is why that sort of reasoning (that present actions have no impact on future challenges) is so corrosive to playing and enjoying a game. if you guys do not trust me not do do that sort of thing well there's no point in me writing anymore.

I'm sorry if this is too blunt. It just hit a nerve and I felt I needed to adress it in the most direct way posibile.
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Uhm... I've said as much to you before? Repeatedly?

I'm here to smell the roses, not out of any expectations that there will be challenges. There doesn't have to be a challenge to enjoy the writing.
 
DragonParadox said:
Considering the vastness of the planes and the ease with which true dragons above a certain age can melt into the population centers, impersonate other sorts of being etc... That said outside the plane of water and the Brine Dragons draconic dominions do not play a major role in the planar politics. Those dragons you got rumors about on the plane of earth for instance are the only known major players in that part of existence who are openly dragons.
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Not necessarily draconic dominions or "major players" like Darleth is, just dragons in general. I'm trying to get a sense for the overall population structures.

Also the Plane of Air and the Plane of Fire have got to have something.
 
To be honest I also often feel like this quest runs on easy mode... But that isn't a reason to stop gathering mercenaries!
Meeting them is always interesting, anyway.

My prediction for the fight : Deep Ones are far, far stronger on the defense than on the offense. DP will have them live in huge, warded and trapped cities which will exact a deadly toll on our minions. Or they'll release bioweapons or something, which will kill their own Skum too (explaining why they didn't release them before) but which will also wreck our shit.
I dunno, something like that. I have hope, okay?!?

I had similar hope about Devil sabotage or Teleport-and-run attacks, but that never happened either. Our House of Mirrors means that it makes sense (they'd need a Mind Blanked teleported to do it now) but for a while there I expected it every month.
 
Azel said:
Uhm... I've said as much to you before? Repeatedly?

I'm here to smell the roses, not out of any expectations that there will be challenges. There doesn't have to be a challenge to enjoy the writing.
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That's fine, I appreciate that you enjoy my writing, but this is a game and I'm treating this as a quest and a lot of people still enjoy playing. I put effort and thought into what those challenges will be and other players think of how to counter it. The implication that I'm just ignoring that aspect of ASWAH and that playing it as a game is pointless is what I meant to counter.
 
Duesal said:
Not necessarily draconic dominions or "major players" like Darleth is, just dragons in general. I'm trying to get a sense for the overall population structures.

Also the Plane of Air and the Plane of Fire have got to have something.
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I think the Plane of Air is likely to have some spread far and wide. It is by far the most livable of all the Elemental Planes. You don't need any special immunities to live there, and there aren't many Dragons that can't fly. The issue would be with finding them.
 
Goldfish said:
I think the Plane of Air is likely to have some spread far and wide. It is by far the most livable of all the Elemental Planes. You don't need any special immunities to live there, and there aren't many Dragons that can't fly. The issue would be with finding them.
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No matter how reclusive a dragon, eventually they will slip up thanks to the overwhelming instinct to grow their hoards.
 
DragonParadox said:
That's fine, I appreciate that you enjoy my writing, but this is a game and I'm treating this as a quest and a lot of people still enjoy playing. I put effort and thought into what those challenges will be and other players think of how to counter it. The implication that I'm just ignoring that aspect of ASWAH and that playing it as a game is pointless is what I meant to counter.
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Out of respect to you I will say no more, but I disagree most strongly. If you do want my honest opinion, PM me.
 
TalonofAnathrax said:
I had similar hope about Devil sabotage or Teleport-and-run attacks, but that never happened either. Our House of Mirrors means that it makes sense (they'd need a Mind Blanked teleported to do it now) but for a while there I expected it every month.
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I'm not sure of the true motivations of the archdukes involved on @DragonParadox's part but I suspect it has a lot to do with the fact that just months ago their gameplan revolved around keeping a low profile and not operating openly, and now we have people literally combing through the streets and looking for signs of Infernal activity using a playsheet that lists all their tendencies and what to look for.

That requires going back to the drawing board.
 
Crake said:
I'm not sure of the true motivations of the archdukes involved on @DragonParadox's part but I suspect it has a lot to do with the fact that just months ago their gameplan revolved around keeping a low profile and not operating openly, and now we have people literally combing through the streets and looking for signs of Infernal activity using a playsheet that lists all their tendencies and what to look for.

That requires going back to the drawing board.
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Teleport-and-run attacks ideally leave no sign that it was a Devil, but do harm your opponents and damage their infrastructure. When you're a Devil whose plans involved spreading fear, terrorist attacks aren't a bad plan!

Although now it's probably a little too late, considering the kind of Divinations we have.
 
Crake said:
[X] Remain in Mardja and try to find more mercenaries
-[X] With the festival in full swing for another two weeks, there may not be any sizable mercenary companies in the area who are not already bound by contract. If we cannot find any within a day, we will travel to Kelasi to learn more of the conflict between the Emir and Galzerai. Rather than seeking to speak to the Emir himself, we will instead spend the day seeking out more rumors and accounts from those citizens we are able to speak with, along with using Divination magic such as Ears of the City to learn more.
-[X] If there are mercenary companies available to hire, however, we will attempt to arrange meetings with their representatives to learn the size of their companies, the composition of their forces, and the price for their services.
-[X] If you're at the point where available mercenaries have to be hunted down personally because it isn't immediately obvious if there are any mercenaries available, PC or otherwise, you are instead going to use the day to 'instigate' (pay for) a few rumors to be spread yourself, telling prospective champions (individuals selling their premium services) and Free Company captains to offer their services at your Embassy in Vialesk. You will also insert the pay that your two current companies managed to secure (long-term contract at equitable terms plus many, many services from yourself that they couldn't hope to find elsewhere) among those rumors. You will spread similar rumors in Vialesk when you pick up your orders. If that doesn't drive anyone with empty pockets and no contract towards your war, you don't really know of anything that will.
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@Goldfish The last addition, so we don't have to come back to this personally, or just plain give up.
 
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