I think we could all learn a lesson on Christmas cheer.

Unfortunately, working within the medical system even tangentially, I am only learning the capitalistic perspective on "holiday cheer", I.E if you don't work, you don't eat.
 
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  • [X] Have a personal meeting with the Chosen of Smith.
    -[X] Extensively divine irregular points of interest about him and his works - just in case, since one favored by Smith can prepare far more of a trap than a regular cleric.
    --[X] Check his supply routes, from where he gets the materials for enchanting - and the people he interacts with along the way, including those he gives the items to, and who gave him the order of Dragon-slaying weaponry. Such spell as Hindsight may come especially in handy if he interacted with someone protected by Mindblank, giving us at least a clue to investigate.
    --[X] With Chosen of Crone having been helping him, also try to affect the same general points about her and сompany she keeps.
    ---[X] Learn the interests and priorities of Chosen of Crone, the people they keep company with - a usual thorough investigation in search of clues for a possible trap.
    -[X] If no suspicious activity is detected via divination, meet with him - the focus of the meeting is to set up at least mild relationship with the Chosen, and ensuring he focuses on bigger threats to people of Westeros than us.
    --[X] Sharing with him our wast array of Lore on Enemies of All (Devils, Demons, Daemons, Others, Illithid, Fey, Rakshasa, Tiamat, etc.-) is a big aspect of this. There is also the potential of directly sponsoring him (see: Warrior's Chosen) if all goes well...
    [X] Find and deal with the wisps that caused you headaches in the Braavosi swamps
    [X] Find and deal with the wisps that caused you headaches in the Braavosi swamps
    -[X] By hook or by crook, the Tree of the Dawn Age will sparkle!
 
Part MMMCCLI: Of Bells and Hammers
Of Bells and Hammers

Twenty Eighth Day of the Eleventh Month 293 AC

Since you had first divined Alyn Surehammer almost a month ago, the Chosen of the Smith had not been idle, though not in the manner one might expect. While dragon-slaying weapons have found themselves in the hands of various knights of the Vale, from Snakewood to Grey Glen, from Newkeep to Ninestars, always in the hands of younger sons or household knights, they are the sort of men who do not have lands to protect and who might wield those weapons without fear that, should they fail, they will doom kith and kin to ruin. They do not expect to win in one glorious charge, that much is clear, but to resist invasion and foment unrest from the shadows.

The irony does not escape you that the knights of the Vale are considering the same sorts of tactics the Clansmen have used for so long, but of greater interest is a single scene caught by the roving eye of a seer in the House of Mirrors, an oath taking for one of the knights presented with one of these weapons. Ser Adrian Harding was sworn to fight for the protection of the Vale and its people in time of strife or war, from tyranny and bloodshed, but he was not sworn specifically to the Faith as members of the Faith Militant might be. Instead, he was expected to make his own judgements under the light of the Father, 'letting neither fear nor hatred blind him'. That adds up well with what you have seen of Alyn in general, building a contingency by which he hopes to check your power should you prove as bloodthirsty as Maegor, but not determined to oppose you under all circumstances, though you would very much wish to know who is delivering the materials for said weapons cloaked and veiled from all divinations. Perhaps you had found the Chosen of the Stranger, after a fashion at least...

Still, returning to the Smith's very much visible Chosen he had also been corresponding with septons who had seen Sorcerer's Deep and even to some of the more reform-minded septons in the Reach. Of late, more weapons that are the bane of devils and fey have left his forge, and little wonder to the last. Over the last month, Alyn and his knightly companions have waged war against the bloodthirsty redcaps and other dark spirits who had emerged from the dark caves and twisting ravines of the Mountains of the Moon. In that they have been successful... perhaps a touch too successful for the young man's peace of mind, you realize as you read the last report.

"What's he done?" Dany asks, noticing the surprise writ upon your face.

"Alyn Surehammer did Lord Benedar Belmore a great favor by breaking the curse the dark fey had cast upon Clara, his eldest daughter, but somehow during the performance of said service the Chosen and the young lady found themselves in a compromising situation of some kind and now he is set to wed her next month," you summarize.

"When you say 'compromising situation'...?" Dany trails off in confusion.

"Neither of them expected or invited the outcome. It was some fey's idea of revenge for however many of its brethren perished to the Chosen's hammer, and that's all that can be pieced together from riddles and glimpses in the scrying glass," you reply. "Clara seems more or less accepting of the matter, but Alyn worries about balancing his oaths to his god and the wife he did not expect."

"And the witch who serves the Crone?" Ser Richard asks, never one to forget a potential foe.

"She has left the Vale, heading south and west to meet with Danelle. She and Lord Brandon are planning some move against the Deep Ones, though that was all that could be gleaned from her brief meeting with Alyn," you reply. And to that you wish them all the luck.

How do you approach Alyn?

[] Write in

OOC: Well that was an interesting set of rolls.
 
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So what happened? Did it turn the girl into a rape magnet? Make the chosen of the smith turn into a rut beast?


I am morbidly curious how the heck this happened and am hoping to find some defense against it/find out how to induce it ourselves.


I mean, being able to engineer matches if needed would be an incredible boon... If a morally questionable one.
 
So what happened? Did it turn the girl into a rape magnet? Make the chosen of the smith turn into a rut beast?

Nothing so crude most likely, a compromising situation by Westerosi can be achieved without having to meddle with someone's mind like that. All you need is the wrong witness at the wrong time to get the wrong idea and the girl would be ruined even if nothing actually improper had gone on.
 
It is adorable that he thinks he has made a good counter to us. He does realize that if we were to attack the Seven it is through institution and law correct? On one hand I want to put away the notion that arms and armour is all it will take...on the other I quite enjoy the squirming.

Anyway what who we want from him? I would much prefer his neutrality in the things to come...provided it matches with his god given "Morality". I don't really want much else other than him to get out of our way.
 
Of Bells and Hammers

Twenty Eighth Day of the Eleventh Month 293 AC

Since you had first divined Alyn Surehammer almost a month ago, the Chosen of the Smith had not been idle, though not in the manner one might expect. While various dragon-slaying weapons have found themselves in the hands of various knights of the Vale, from Snakewood to Grey Glen, from Newkeep to Ninestars, always in the hands of younger sons or household knights. They are the sort of men who do not have lands to protect and who might wield those weapons without fear that, should they fail, they will doom kith and kin to ruin. They do not expect to win in one glorious charge, that much is clear, but to resist invasion and foment unrest from the shadows.

The irony does not escape you that the knights of the Vale are considering the same sorts of tactics the Clansmen have used for so long, but of greater interest is a single scene caught by the roving eye of a seer in the House of Mirrors, an oath taking for one of the knights presented with one of these weapons. Ser Adrian Harding was sworn to fight for the protection of the Vale and its people in time of strife or war, from tyranny and bloodshed, but he was not sworn specifically to the Faith as members of the Faith Militant might be. Instead, he was expected to make his own judgements under the light of the Father, 'letting neither fear nor hatred blind him'. That adds up well with what you have seen of Alyn in general, building a contingency by which he hopes to check your power should you prove as bloodthirsty as Maegor, but not determined to oppose you under all circumstances.

Indeed, the Chosen had also been corresponding with septons who had seen Sorcerer's Deep and even to some of the more reform-minded septons in the Reach. Of late, more weapons that are the bane of devils and fey have left his forge, and little wonder to the last. Over the last month, Alyn and his knightly companions have waged war against the bloodthirsty redcaps and other dark spirits who had emerged from the dark caves and twisting ravines of the Mountains of the Moon. In that they have been successful... perhaps a touch too successful for the young man's peace of mind, you realize as you read the last report.

"What's he done" Dany asks, noticing the surprise writ upon your face.

"Alyn Surehammer did lord Benedar Belmore a great favor by breaking the curse the dark fey had cast upon Clara, his eldest daughter, but somehow during the performance of said service, the Chosen and the young lady found themselves in a compromising situation of some kind and now he is set to wed her next month," you summarize.

"When you say compromising situation...?" Dany trails off in confusion.

"Neither of them expected or invited the outcome. It was some fey's idea of revenge for however many of its brethren perished to the Chosen's hammer, and that's all that can be pieced together from riddles and glimpses in the scrying glass," you reply. "Clara seems more or less accepting of the matter, but Alyn worries about balancing his oaths to god and the wife he did not expect."

"And the witch who serves the Crone?" Ser Richard asks, never one to forget a potential foe.

"She has left the Vale, heading south and west to meet with Danelle. She and Lord Brandon are planning some move against the Deep Ones, though that was all that could be gleaned from her brief meeting with Alyn," you reply. And to that you wish them all the luck.

How do you approach Alyn?

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OOC: Well that was an interesting set of rolls. Not yet edited.
Here's an edited version of the chapter, DP.
 
It is adorable that he thinks he has made a good counter to us. He does realize that if we were to attack the Seven it is through institution and law correct? On one hand I want to put away the notion that arms and armour is all it will take...on the other I quite enjoy the squirming.

Anyway what who we want from him? I would much prefer his neutrality in the things to come...provided it matches with his god given "Morality". I don't really want much else other than him to get out of our way.
I think most of the Chosen are starting to realize we are NOT what they were hyping us up to be and they know now they will have to fight us through oratory and legislative efforts. But the latter is where we hold an advantage, and in the former they are only consistently keeping ahead on religious matters... otherwise we are a messianic figure in approximately half the lands we hold a claim over, and in Westeros most of the nobility either supports us outright or doesn't want to risk their own hides for piety.

As I'm sure @DragonParadox has illustrated through Danelle and crew, it's a grim outlook.
 
@DragonParadox, so, we failed to find any "blind spots" looking into
1) where he gets the resources/materials
2) how the resources get to where he gets them.
3) anything more on who gave the order for dragon-slaying weapons?

Same goes for Chosen of Crone.
 
Nothing so crude most likely, a compromising situation by Westerosi can be achieved without having to meddle with someone's mind like that. All you need is the wrong witness at the wrong time to get the wrong idea and the girl would be ruined even if nothing actually improper had gone on.
Let me guess. A chance meeting somewhere not entirely appropriate where she was giving thanks to her saviour was seen by someone who put the right person in the right place to cause a massive scandal?

Edit: And I am sure that he father isn't taking advantage of this at all. It is just about honour and not adding the Chosen to the family bloodline.
 
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Nothing so crude most likely, a compromising situation by Westerosi can be achieved without having to meddle with someone's mind like that. All you need is the wrong witness at the wrong time to get the wrong idea and the girl would be ruined even if nothing actually improper had gone on.
It could have been as simple as hitting them both with Unnatural Lust spells at just the right time for them to be discovered.

 
Edit: for the love of snake god guys, remember the thread rules please?

He sounds... busy though. Really busy.

What do you guys want from him precisely? I mostly just wanted to show that all the sevens chosen weren't mindless murder gremlins.

Speaking of which... maybe we should grab one of those dragon slaying swords. It seems like an unusually poor plan, and I wouldnt put forging an unpleasant surprise in past an int based caster.
 
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It could have been as simple as hitting them both with Unnatural Lust spells at just the right time for them to be discovered.


The situation could really be as simple as Alyn investigating a noise he heard, finding the girl who was separated from her maid, and then they get discovered. It doesn't take fancy tricks, it just takes having someone outside the family who doesn't have a stake to keep it a secret (if they actually believe Alyn) to keep it impossible from sweeping under the rug, and in any case, the Lord in question might have really put him between a rock and a hard place because he wanted the political win from having his goodson be a Chosen of the Gods.

@DragonParadox probably wrote it as a mix 50/50.
 
Nothing so crude most likely, a compromising situation by Westerosi can be achieved without having to meddle with someone's mind like that. All you need is the wrong witness at the wrong time to get the wrong idea and the girl would be ruined even if nothing actually improper had gone on.

He has access to people who know Miracle. He can show that this wasn't true if he wanted to.

Unless he really wants to wed that girl, or he is dumb. I'm betting on the former because he is still alive despite having a PC-grade class.
 
@DragonParadox, so, we failed to find any "blind spots" looking into
1) where he gets the resources/materials
2) how the resources get to where he gets them.
3) anything more on who gave the order for dragon-slaying weapons?

Same goes for Chosen of Crone.
  1. He gets the materials though dead drops
  2. He or his knights deliver them to the intended recipients
  3. No information on that
The Chosen of the Crone has mind blank and is only divinable though indirect means.
 
He has access to people who know Miracle. He can show that this wasn't true if he wanted to.

Unless he really wants to wed that girl, or he is dumb. I'm betting on the former because he is still alive despite having a PC-grade class.

The reason Alyn is marrying her is that his "casual pocket Miracle" is not in fact any more unconditional than the Lord's good will. What do you think Lucan would demand to have himself or his Angels help?
 
Edit: for the love of snake god guys, remember the thread rules please?

He sounds... busy though. Really busy.

What do you guys want from him precisely? I mostly just wanted to show that all the sevens chosen weren't mindless murder gremlins.

Speaking of which... maybe we should grab one of those dragon slaying swords. It seems like an unusually poor plan, and I wouldnt put forging an unpleasant surprise in past an int based caster.
His plan isn't bad, he just doesn't quite grasp the scale of what he envisions.

Should we help him with his impending marriage troubles?
 
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It could have been as simple as hitting them both with Unnatural Lust spells at just the right time for them to be discovered.


Viserys considers direct enchantment of the Chosen unlikely, high level clerics tend to be strong willed

He has access to people who know Miracle. He can show that this wasn't true if he wanted to.

Unless he really wants to wed that girl, or he is dumb. I'm betting on the former because he is still alive despite having a PC-grade class.

If miracle could make malicious and damaging rumors go away Viserys would not have invested as much as he has in hearts and minds actions
 
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They are all chosen of the same deities? Shouldn't they be allied?

Are they really so stupid?

It is less stupidity and more...stubbornness. They really haven't come up with a united front as per the nature of their god(s) and each has a different method to their madness. Disagreements occur and the Smith boy has chosen to wait and see...as it were and that probably isn't the best stance in Lucan's eyes so any leverage helps.
 
He gets the materials though dead drops
This is as fucking ominous as it gets.

@everyone, whatever's the plan of action, please add this as a start regarless-

[X] Before interacting with the Chosen, check around all the dead drops of materials used by him - using Retrocognition, Speak to Stone, Hindsight, and such spells.
EDIT: Talon'd
 
If miracle could make malicious and damaging rumors go away Viserys would not have invested as much as he had in hearts and minds actions

I mean as proof that what they are saying is not true. I mean, he can stack +40 diplomance or something and explain these guys that he doesn't want to marry that girl.

They are not all of the same opinion nor are they all ungrudgingly working together in harmony, and there is already fractures apparent in doctrine.

But Lucan is apparently more inteligent than that? He would let a potential ally be burdened by lordly matters instead of focusing on doing important things?
 
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