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Magical Girl Escalation Taylor (Worm/Nanoha)

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Silently Watches said:
I don't even understand what you're trying to say here.
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I think the specifics is how Missy sees joining CW and Co. as only having positives, and back when we made her a new arm, she was focused on getting an arm back while ignoring the possible consequences, a view then reinforced when she went for the heavy combat arm.

I don't agree with them, at all, but I think that's where they're coming from.
 
A banner will fix that.

Just...

A big friggin banner. And a fireworks display with "Thank you Calamity Witch!" Each time the device is used.
 
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Spectral Waltz said:
Wow, what the fuck is wrong with you?
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*shrugs* Wish sometimes I knew the answer to that myself.
Silently Watches said:
I don't even understand what you're trying to say here.
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50% rough chance based on just two clinical test subjects and not even an extended study on at least 20 to determine the truer chance of success and without even asking the TSAB if there's such a procedure without hinting of the fact that they have a mutagen capable of doing such. Yeah, I can see it going well.
 
I'd say we keep dedicating at least one action every time on freeing people from the bubble. We need that PR. Especially once the PRT really gets its feet under it with regards to magic and bringing order to the chaos of the Cape scene.
 
aceraptor said:
I'd say we keep dedicating at least one action every time on freeing people from the bubble. We need that PR. Especially once the PRT really gets its feet under it with regards to magic and bringing order to the chaos of the Cape scene.
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We could probably get most of the PR benefit if we did the first few personally and let the PRT take over at some point, if people are worried about the time investment. It'd also probably get things done faster.

We should definitely let the PRT know ahead of time either way so that they can get people the help they're going to need. We're not equipped for that.
 
[X] Plan More Mages

One thing at a time, folks. Linker Core for Missy first, then we can finish converting her into a Number.

Also, who wants to guess at what her mutation will be?
 
TaliesinSkye said:
We could probably get most of the PR benefit if we did the first few personally and let the PRT take over at some point, if people are worried about the time investment. It'd also probably get things done faster.

We should definitely let the PRT know ahead of time either way so that they can get people the help they're going to need. We're not equipped for that.
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There aren't a lot of people prepared for that, period, but I agree that large organizations like the PRT are more likely to have the right resources. I think they'd need to bring in the kind of psychiatrist working at the facility where Garrotte and Glory Girl went to have even a starting point for how to treat that. I like the idea of asking the TSAB if they have ideas, and agree that we should do a few of them, publicly, before letting other people get credit.

If it ever leaked out that the same person working for Dragon was responsible for the design of the 'weapon' that took out Ziz and for this, people would start worshiping him. Hopefully for Tim, it's never occurred to him how that would go, or he might never sleep easily again. He's quite happy not getting any of that public recognition as is.
 
[X] Plan More Focus
-[X] Experiment further with LCM and try to see how mutations can be managed or directed (2 slots)
-[X] Brew Linker Core mutagenic serum for Missy (1 slot, 1 tech point)
-[X] Pop Grey Boy's bubbles (3 slots)
 
So I have a question... I only just recently got back into reading this and came across Tim with the mutation bomb... Now, I can somewhat understand his first reaction but his later ideas in using it for healing have merit but there is another track that he can take it: Bio-sculpting. Want to see in the dark? Get your self some cat eye enhancement.

And that isn't even considering what you can do under the hood so to speak. Enhanced muscles, bones and joints for a minor brute rating. Peak human for their size is just the possible start. Better nose, ears and eyes for a minor thinker rating. That sort of stuff that is "under the hood" so to speak.

But there is one last thing that I think people should take into account. A linker core has a physical manifestation along the spine. Could this be used to mutate one into existence for someone who doesn't have one? And could it be used to enhance one that is already present?

I mean, a lot of the problems inherent with this kind of experimentation being unethical is because you would normally have to experiment on children at conception but if you can mutate something into place quickly and easily the way the Bakuda bombs did... There isn't any reason you couldn't use the exact same process to return things to what they were before the original mutation and try again as many times as needed to get results... Provided the process has any kind of precision to it but I highly doubt it would work at all without that kind of precision to start with.

EDIT: and obviously I should have read the fucking discussion because the vote directly above my post says "Brew Linker Core mutagenic serum for Missy" as an option >.<
 
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Ryune said:
But there is one last thing that I think people should take into account. A linker core has a physical manifestation along the spine. Could this be used to mutate one into existence for someone who doesn't have one? And could it be used to enhance one that is already present?
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Enhance, no. Create, yes. See this post and the other posts it links to for complete details.
 
[X] Plan More Mages

Out of curiosity, @Silently Watches, would it be possible to create an Armed Device instead of a Storage Device for Kayleigh? Just because it's objectively better, especially for a D-Rank core that can't get any super spells - knight armour beats barrier jacket, and using a magic bullet in conjunction with a mana cartridge could lead to some interesting effects.
 
Silently Watches said:
so any information she could have ready to go shen we talk to them would be appreciated.
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when?

Silently Watches said:
The cape, you think Cherry Bomb but maybe Flambe, trails off for several long seconds
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may be
Silently Watches said:
do.You're
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do. You're
Silently Watches said:
"I don't about you, but I can't see one."
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don't know about?
Silently Watches said:
The normal sources all moved on to other topics was the news was broken."
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??
Silently Watches said:
You shrug. "Then you'll lose her. I don't she was kidding about that. Her age doesn't make her any less able to do what she wants, regardless of whether she is allowed to or not."
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I don't think she? I doubt she?
and this kind of thing is why I like the TSAB's way of doing things for people who have proven mature enough at a young age that are treated with the respect that is due to their maturity ... conversely If someone never grows up perhaps they should continue to be treated as children even if they are 30
 
goku90504 said:
I don't think she? I doubt she?
and this kind of thing is why I like the TSAB's way of doing things for people who have proven mature enough at a young age that are treated with the respect that is due to their maturity ... conversely If someone never grows up perhaps they should continue to be treated as children even if they are 30
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TSAB has different flaws. Nepotism is RIFE, that you can have the dual key authorization for strategic weapon deployment given by a mother and son pair to the adopted daughter of their teacher is itself super risky on many accountability levels.

They really operate on a very close to feudal structure, crossed with an Age Of Sail attitude to long distance operators.
 
So, the jeweled necklaces of Perfect Storm and Raging Heart make it clear enough devices have a stealth mode.... I assume Armed Device also has something subtle enough Kayleigh isn't worried about scenarios she can't have guns or "gun" with her? Is there a concern about having to hold a gun-style Armed device getting in the way of her Magi-Tinkertech guns, that isn't present with a Card-style storage device?

The advanced AI of an Intelligent device vs the Knight Armor of an armed device (SW's told us more or less to not care about the cartridge side-option, but meh even one in a breast pocket for Nova-Sniper moments or the like might be a thing? ) is a tough choice though ..... probably want the former, and just build her a separate Super-Smart-Phone tinkertech with an AI like Tim made to replace Danny loaded on it?

A question for @Silently Watches , normally I'm all fine for making votes that the characters retroactively agree with (this is a Quest, not a story) , but..... with Maclibuin didn't you tell us ICly AND have Tim tell us not to make a Device for someone before it was discussed what they wanted from it? We even ended up having to spend two actions on the initial meeting then handing the stuff over, if I remember right....

I don't know what to vote for anyone anymore, with Silently Watches having pre-done ideas before we confirmed it an option for ourselves :V :V but with Missy and Kayleigh locked, and Laura's core at least already pre-set because we hadn't yet scanned.... seems like Standstill is an obvious case for a Template to give her the furthest thing from her current powers (and pair nicely with a Shield Beast in mirror of Samantha's Sword with Taylor) , and Laura getting a normal Device to figure out a nice slew of Ice themed spells for her hopeful A+ rank that she couldn't get anyways with a Template <3

Why not build generic-parts devices for a Template to be given later, if there is any question of not doing Kayleigh's Device till after we scan?

[X] Plan More Mages

Will toss my vote here for now anyways, I'm far far less interested in that grey-goo mess than getting Moar Magical Girls for the team (what has Circus been up to lately? :V )

EDIT: Probably the reason I was so late jumping in on discussion this time was avoiding the people who seemed to view an eager desire for body-improvement surgeries as sick-in-the-head monsters >_> So I'll toss my vote in with Wyrd on easily thinking of half a dozen mutations I'd cheerfully jump at the risk odd's for. How about some variety of photosynthesis or chemical-fuel lifeform to toss out any worries of weight-and-diet management when you've got some flavor of hyposmia making food a nuisance anyways? Save a loooot of money as a bonus! )
 
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Racoras said:
So, the jeweled necklaces of Perfect Storm and Raging Heart make it clear enough devices have a stealth mode.... I assume Armed Device also has something subtle enough Kayleigh isn't worried about scenarios she can't have guns or "gun" with her? Is there a concern about having to hold a gun-style Armed device getting in the way of her Magi-Tinkertech guns, that isn't present with a Card-style storage device?

The advanced AI of an Intelligent device vs the Knight Armor of an armed device (SW's told us more or less to not care about the cartridge side-option, but meh even one in a breast pocket for Nova-Sniper moments or the like might be a thing? ) is a tough choice though ..... probably want the former, and just build her a separate Super-Smart-Phone tinkertech with an AI like Tim made to replace Danny loaded on it?
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My guess is that to function as an Intelligent Device they need to be in deployed form to channel much energy, and the deployed form necessarily has to be a handheld implement or accessory at least the size of a gun.

At the same time we've seen Devices perform functions while in 'storage' form, Bardiche could cast reforge while in medal form after all.
So its probably down to magic energy capacity of the Device, which a D ranked mage with a Storage Device simply doesn't need to care about, UNLESS its an Armed Device, which MUST be a wielded implement

So it goes to:
-Boost Device - Caro and Lutecia's Boost devices are gloves, but they carry nothing else, even when its practical to, ergo, its probably mapped to their hands
-Intelligent Device - Mostly we see these as staves, but we know from ViVid that other forms are possible, Corona has an Athame form and a Bracelet form, and Vivio/Einhart's pseudo-Unison devices work...weird.
-Storage Devices - All shapes and sizes, I'd note Book forms exist and they seem to function just fine floating besides their wielder(or being used to book people on the head in the fighting games)
-Armed Devices - Necessarily a weapon, so always must be held.
 
Hate Fish said:
Out of curiosity, @Silently Watches, would it be possible to create an Armed Device instead of a Storage Device for Kayleigh? Just because it's objectively better, especially for a D-Rank core that can't get any super spells - knight armour beats barrier jacket, and using a magic bullet in conjunction with a mana cartridge could lead to some interesting effects.
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It's entirely possible to build Kayleigh an Armed Device instead of a Storage Device. It would be for the Knight Armor, though. I can tell you that cartridges will have NO EFFECTS on a magic bullet.
Racoras said:
So, the jeweled necklaces of Perfect Storm and Raging Heart make it clear enough devices have a stealth mode.... I assume Armed Device also has something subtle enough Kayleigh isn't worried about scenarios she can't have guns or "gun" with her? Is there a concern about having to hold a gun-style Armed device getting in the way of her Magi-Tinkertech guns, that isn't present with a Card-style storage device?
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Yes, all Devices have a standby form. My idea with Kayleigh is that her guns would be sealed by the Device and would be easy enough to unseal when her BJ is being deployed. The benefit for a Storage Device over Armed and Intelligent is pretty much what @veekie said. If a SD has a bracelet standby form and a bracelet active form, no big deal. Intelligent Devices HAVE to be in some kind of point-to-shoot form, be that a staff, a gun, an athame, a wand, etc. Armed Devices HAVE to be some kind of physical weapon; or at the very least, every AD we see is like this. (I know Klarwind is described as an AD, but that's more because ADs were the "hot new thing" of A's. When you look at the series as a whole, it actually serves more as a Boost Device, and that is how this quest will treat it for comparison purposes.)
Racoras said:
A question for @Silently Watches , normally I'm all fine for making votes that the characters retroactively agree with (this is a Quest, not a story) , but..... with Maclibuin didn't you tell us ICly AND have Tim tell us not to make a Device for someone before it was discussed what they wanted from it? We even ended up having to spend two actions on the initial meeting then handing the stuff over, if I remember right....
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I planned on doing some timey-wimey shenanigans if Plan More Mages won. Namely that I'd put it off until the last build slot and bring Kayleigh and Laura (and Missy?) to Tim's workshop and doing the "official" discussion about Device types. OOC, you're voting for Kayleigh's Device before that discussion, but IC he would just build that one first after talking to her about it and basically telling her she's too weak to use anything else to its full potential.
Racoras said:
I don't know what to vote for anyone anymore, with Silently Watches having pre-done ideas before we confirmed it an option for ourselves :V :V
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:oops: I've been really, REALLY eager about this part of the arc, okay? There are so many ideas I can put into play if it's more than just Taylor and Samantha, and we get to mutate Missy and see her magic, and the gunslinger Kayleigh idea just hit me out of the blue but was SO PERFECT for her, and... Yeah.
 
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