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I dont blame her. Im just pointing out that shes not the wholesome good person that shes often portrayed as in fanon.
I mean... theyll keep....
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Magical Girl Escalation Taylor (Worm/Nanoha)
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Silently Watches
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Alexandria I plan to involve in part 1 of Burn the Sinners. She for sure would see mention of a cape named just Samantha and put 2 and 2 together.
I should not have found this as funny as I did. Because it is absolutely true.
Or this
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Horrible funnies, glad to be of service.
RoninSword
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Taylor asked what the rules were in regards to resigning from the Wards with MM being Vista's guardian. Vista responded saying that the Youth Guard managed to get restrictions in place to prevent a child from not being able to leave after a Ward tried leaving and the PRT et all tried holding their trust fund hostage (or something to that effect).
Looking forward to the conversation with Alexandria.Alexandria I plan to involve in part 1 of Burn the Sinners. She for sure would see mention of a cape named just Samantha and put 2 and 2 together.
I should not have found this as funny as I did. Because it is absolutely true.
Or this
One thing I'd note is that Alexandria is likely aware that if Taylor does pull this off and destroy the Fallen then she'll be well on her way to establishing a reputation that's greater than what she has now (iirc her current reputation with the wider world is that of a merely powerful Cape, nothing truly special). And add her connection to Dragon and, once get around to it, recruiting from both hero and former villains she can form a serious power bloc.
And with such a thing comes political power. Especially if she goes on to take out Heartbreaker (a relatively low hanging fruit in terms of threats that the PRT and the Protectorate has been effectively powerless to bring to heel). There will be people coming to seek her opinion and endorsement on happenings. And if she were inclined she could create a powerful independent bloc that answers to no one but themselves.
Of course in Alexandria's mind that may be necessary to create the next icon to take the place of the Triumvirate in forcing everyone to acknowledge the threat and pillar of order and good that she and her allies represent.
So I'm super interested in how the meeting will work out.
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Nanoha's family received explanations only in the very end of A's. Before that, Nanoha and Lindy saw no problems with hiding everything from them.
Quoting myself from On Fluttering Wings:
They were in the middle of fighting S-class threat and Tattletale opened her mouth to sow discord amongst defenders. Even Taylor was left wondering why she's doing it.I dont blame her. Im just pointing out that shes not the wholesome good person that shes often portrayed as in fanon.
So, I would say shoving a gun in her mouth was extremely good and wholesome act.
10/10, would shove again.
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Her dad has massive scars all over his body, presumably its close enough to canon to work
There is no moral obligation at all to donate all your time to ending torture, you don't owe them anything and you don't get anything out of it except warm fuzzies and a PR boost. We also have a lot of personal and global issues competing with the fate of a few people who really don't matter that much except to themselves and their at best, triple digits of people who actually know and care about them beyond a statistic.
I mean, if you want to get extreme about it, wasting time popping Grey Boy bubbles to save a handful of individuals who won't be contributing significantly to the world while delaying your development of means to counter the Endbringers, who kill thousands to millions annually, is itself morally repugnant. Wasting time on vacations, friendship, and technological uplift likewise goes second to the moral imperative of saving the world from an apocalypse.
Do not go there for moral obligation, thats how you dig yourself into a grave like canon Amy/Panacea.
This is pure charity work. You do it because you can and want to.
They're not exactly exemplary no. A fair bit better than the cape business though, I got the impression its at least partly running against the difficulties of dealing with a magic-unaware society and a Prime Directive.
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[X] Plan More Mages
-[X] Experiment further with LCM and try to see how mutations can be managed or directed (2 slots)
-[X] Brew Linker Core mutagenic serum for Missy (1 slot, 1 tech point)
-[X] Storage Device for Kayleigh, bracelet (1 slot)
-[X] Pop Grey Boy's bubbles (2 slots)
-[X] Experiment further with LCM and try to see how mutations can be managed or directed (2 slots)
-[X] Brew Linker Core mutagenic serum for Missy (1 slot, 1 tech point)
-[X] Storage Device for Kayleigh, bracelet (1 slot)
-[X] Pop Grey Boy's bubbles (2 slots)
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Dresden problem?
he?
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A typical sentence from Harry Dresden, the main character of Dresden Files: "The building was on fire, and it was definitely not my fault."
Though to be fair theres a fair bit of buildings on fire that are totally his fault.
When you specialize in fire blasting as your go to attack option it happens.
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To be fair Fire does tend to be a fairly effective go to against a lot of the gribblies he deals with... The side effects are just an unfortunate consequence
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Rajvik_wolfboy
Wolf amongst the stars.
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I know this is a derail but sorry, I can't help it.
The book that actually opened with that line it wasn't his fault but that of the giant winged-monkey demon flinging flaming boo at him. This is also when Mouse makes his appearance.
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several of his books open with this line.
sometimes it's his fault, sometimes not.
TaliesinSkye
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I don't wish to insult you, but this whole argument might be the most callous thing I have ever heard.
We're the only ones that can do it, it costs us nothing but a little time, and we have nothing going on at the moment that can't afford to wait a bit. Moreover, contrary to your attempt to mischaracterize it as such, this is not some endless commitment or loss of all perspective in an attempt to do the right thing and nothing else. Anyone who thinks being ethical requires helping to the point of hurting oneself badly misunderstands ethics in any event.
Every ethical system I can think of and any claim to a shred of basic human decency require that we do this as soon as possible, and we're free right now. If your heart is a shell empty of all empathy for others and you demand a practical reason, think about how people would think of Taylor and company if they found out they could have saved those trapped in the bubbles sooner but it took them a while to get around to it because they were busy fiddling with research after they got the required device done. It's not exactly heroic.
Not quite accurate. There's a finite number of Grey Boy victims, unlike the never-ending amount of people who want/need to receive healing.
Huh, never thought I'd be seriously disgusted with Missy. She always sees the benefits and refuses the consequences. Let's turn her into a brain in a jar then. Like that girl in gunvolt.
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Let's pop Grey boy's victims. This had gone forgotten enough.
[X] Pop Grey Boy's bubbles
Spectral Waltz
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Wow, what the fuck is wrong with you?
Silently Watches
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I don't even understand what you're trying to say here.
Rajvik_wolfboy
Wolf amongst the stars.
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He sees her as an upside Annie, always seeing the positive and not the negative. This character is supposed to be a two dimensional optimist
Silently Watches
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That viewpoint doesn't even make sense. Everything anybody does is because they judge the benefits to be worth the risks. If people only did things when there were no possible consequences, the human race would just lie down and wait to die.
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It wouldn't have been that hard to lead the character development in a direction that led to her becoming a more serious Mage, but never got the votes and, at this point, isn't worth the amount of effort it would take to change things. The changes to how Device mages work means that I would have been far happier with making her one instead of using a template, instead pushing for a template for Standstill when we did Lacey's template, so I support a retcon that lets us refocus our efforts where they'll do the most good.
Then again, this was one of the first votes I was involved with in my first quest, so back then I was thinking more along the lines of rp groups I've been in before.
Sounds like college football to me. I'm not supporting it, and acknowledge that there are plenty of differences between them, but I would be surprised if your take on the matter weren't colored by this mess, particularly with how much news coverage over the matter has been going on the last few years.
Building a Device for her means not giving her a template. Building Devices to sacrifice, on the other hand, is something I want us to start on, as it takes five to make a template.
That Knight Armor makes an Armed Device tempting. Does a Storage Device give her Barrier Jacket or Hazard Jacket?
PRT therapists, in canon, are constantly rotated to avoid a therapist developing too much of an influence on a cape under their care. Getting her out of the PRT and those rules could only help her with dealing with her issues in ways that the Protectorate clearly has not been doing for her.
When we make the vote, whatever we choose to make her will be what she wanted to ask for. We decide what she chooses. I would prefer waiting a week to see her update, where she gets scanned, first, though.
Once the device has been tested, we don't have to be the ones running around popping those bubbles.* In all likelihood, the only humane thing we can do for people who've been tortured to death over and over for decades is to put them out of their misery, but at least that is now an option for them. As such, we can both do the moral thing of freeing them while also doing the moral thing of stopping S class threats. We won't get as much PR and general good will if we don't stay directly involved, but I consider that an acceptable sacrifice.
* @Silently Watches Does the popper require Tim's expertise to use? Even if he does have to do the first time to calibrate it, would he have to do every single one?
If it turns out that they do end up killing anybody in the bubbles, either from them dying when the bubble pops or just as an act of mercy, I don't want Tim to have to go through that for every one of those bubbles.
I'm guessing that its locked under the Physical Heal branch of Tim's Enhancement skill tree.
Ugh, if only we didn't need the Large Weapons tech to make breaker scale weapons, I'd be all over this.
Because a energy drink that can help regenerate mana for mages is very, very useful.
TaliesinSkye
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I'm wondering if there's any way we can wipe their memories of trauma or otherwise help them. Sadly the Cauldron cape that erased memories is dead. Is there anything in the setting's magic to suggest it might be possible?
Edit: We could ask the Enforcers if they happen to have any ideas. I've been meaning to suggest asking them if they know of any healing magic that works on brain injury for Danny's sake. It's a long shot, but we should at least try.
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Silently Watches
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Barrier.
It technically doesn't, so if you want Tim to only pop the first few and teach someone else how to do it, you can. It won't give you the PR boost people have been talking about, as even if the Protectorate/PRT says it's Shipwright's tech, all anyone will see and be talking about is how the Protectorate/PRT is freeing people from their prisons.