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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Goldfish said:
Oh, shit...Quori. My Eberron lore is extremely weak, but I remember those things are bad, bad news. Are they regularly accessing the Material Plane, @DragonParadox? Or are they largely confined to the Dreamlands?

I bet there is a Quori dominated land on the other side of Sothoryos. :o
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Dany is not sure, but she thinks they would have real trouble accessing the prime material

Duesal said:
Fingers crossed for no terrible encounter rolls, then. @DragonParadox, as part of her report, can we have a detailed summarization of the dreamscape of Sorcerer's Deep itself? The effects of Yss' protection, what the Tree of the Dawn Age looks like on the other side, the effects of Zathir's presence, the temples of the various approved gods, the dreams of the citizens, etc.

That's true for people of the waking world, but that's a lot less true for things born of the dreamscape itself. There's an inborn skill that allows them to leave a lot less ripples. For example, when we fought the Nightmare Dragon it wasn't there before, it just showed up after we shed blood in a fight. We couldn't sense it. Heck, Dany couldn't sense it. We only realized what we were dealing with when it transformed in front of us.
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Dreamlands denizens are more capable of moving without disturbing the dream but not perfectly so, think of it as a leopard's camouflage

Crake said:
@DragonParadox If Dreamlands natives have some kind of stealth field generator like @Duesal described, could we research a method to detect them by sensing for other fluctuations? They weren't present before, so they are doing SOMETHING to will themselves into position to attack. If we could even come up with an effect similar to Anticipate Teleport but for this kind of transition that would be ideal.
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It would be posibile yes, it would have to come in the form of a mental exercise or other conceptual product, taking material objects into the dreamlands while technically posibile for Dany is far from quiet.
 
DragonParadox said:
Dany is not sure, but she thinks they would have real trouble accessing the prime material



Dreamlands denizens are more capable of moving without disturbing the dream but not perfectly so, think of it as a leopard's camouflage



It would be posibile yes, it would have to come in the form of a mental exercise or other conceptual product, taking material objects into the dreamlands while technically posibile for Dany is far from quiet.
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Adhoc vote count started by Goldfish on Dec 4, 2019 at 1:39 PM, finished with 56 posts and 12 votes.
  • [X] Decline the letter but thank him for the warning. Ser Brynden is probably someone more set with the 'proper way' of going about things, and you have enough working against you in attempting to do things the 'proper way'. Probably not enough to earn the Blackwood heir's enmity considering all the other things about your rule there is to consider, especially in relation to his own House, but enough to make him hesitate already.
    -[X] You will present it in the plainest terms for his benefit. You are already one leg over the finish line here, where before Hoster had nothing to offer but idealism and scant hopes. With the Crown arbitrating the matter in a way that is just and fair, leaving neither side feeling like they were shorted from the more 'material' concerns of the matter, the rest of the feud, fueled by the bitter hatred of one old man from the past, can finally be laid to rest.
    -[X] You have your arguments readied for how both sides might benefit already. You have your own convictions for why peace should be kept, and cogently point out that no one is going to have much time to try killing each other anyway given the pace with which you move in any conquest you've undertaken thus far, you need only look to Essos to see the truth of that.
    -[X] If Blackwood and Bracken attempt to settle their feud with any degree of urgency before then, it would be the surest madness of the entire matter despite all evidence that it serves neither House to feed into it further. Hence your efforts to try to get both sides of the dispute looking to the future, secure in the knowledge the past is a matter of history, to be learned from, but only in how to avoid repeating mistakes.
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Crake said:
Wrong vote.

*Sigh* That's what I get for trying to unfoul my own diplo-votes at the last minute.
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No harm done. I had not gotten that far.

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Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Dec 4, 2019 at 2:43 PM, finished with 67 posts and 13 votes.
  • [X] Decline the letter but thank him for the warning. Ser Brynden is probably someone more set with the 'proper way' of going about things, and you have enough working against you in attempting to do things the 'proper way'. Probably not enough to earn the Blackwood heir's enmity considering all the other things about your rule there is to consider, especially in relation to his own House, but enough to make him hesitate already.
    -[X] You will present it in the plainest terms for his benefit. You are already one leg over the finish line here, where before Hoster had nothing to offer but idealism and scant hopes. With the Crown arbitrating the matter in a way that is just and fair, leaving neither side feeling like they were shorted from the more 'material' concerns of the matter, the rest of the feud, fueled by the bitter hatred of one old man from the past, can finally be laid to rest.
    -[X] You have your arguments readied for how both sides might benefit already. You have your own convictions for why peace should be kept. You need only find the final points upon which a true compromise hinges, one that will not be driven home only by spite and the will of one House or another ever seeking to get the last blow to the other's pride in.
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Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Dec 4, 2019 at 2:43 PM, finished with 67 posts and 13 votes.
  • [X] Decline the letter but thank him for the warning. Ser Brynden is probably someone more set with the 'proper way' of going about things, and you have enough working against you in attempting to do things the 'proper way'. Probably not enough to earn the Blackwood heir's enmity considering all the other things about your rule there is to consider, especially in relation to his own House, but enough to make him hesitate already.
    -[X] You will present it in the plainest terms for his benefit. You are already one leg over the finish line here, where before Hoster had nothing to offer but idealism and scant hopes. With the Crown arbitrating the matter in a way that is just and fair, leaving neither side feeling like they were shorted from the more 'material' concerns of the matter, the rest of the feud, fueled by the bitter hatred of one old man from the past, can finally be laid to rest.
    -[X] You have your arguments readied for how both sides might benefit already. You have your own convictions for why peace should be kept. You need only find the final points upon which a true compromise hinges, one that will not be driven home only by spite and the will of one House or another ever seeking to get the last blow to the other's pride in.
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Part MMMCCXIII: Opening the Way
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    • Opening the Way ​

    Twenty Fourth Day of the Eleventh Month 293 AC

    "I appreciate the offer and even more the warning, but I think it is best to do this with an eye to propriety, at least as much as circumstances allow," you add with a smile, drawing a somewhat shaky laugh from young Hoster. "I hope that by the time you reach Seaguard there will be a letter waiting for you there to put right what malice and misfortune both have set askew."

    After he had written his letter you and your companions vanish back into the woods and from there into the sky while the knights wake from their enchanted slumber, to Hoster's excuses about 'fey miasmas'. Truth be told he makes a mediocre liar, but no one is minded to question the only mage among them about matters of the arcane, content that they had woken with only half an hour wasted in the grip of sorcery.

    Thankfully upon your return to Raventree Hall it proves easy to find Ser Brynden, as a dutiful heir he is as often seen in his father's solar as he is in tilt yard, if more enthusiastic for the former than the latter. The greater trouble is figuring out a means to meet with him and him alone without either trespass or the danger of Ser Brynden speaking directly to his father on the matter without first meeting with you alone.

    In the end it is Varys who strikes upon the right solution, simply flying close to him and silently passing the invitation on in his thoughts. Most would be quite leery of hearing voices from the ether, but given that Hoster had reported no fear of magic from his eldest brother you assume the knight would be curious enough to at least entertain the notion that it was genuine. So it is you come to meet in the backroom of a tavern among the smell of cabbage, smoked ham and wine of indifferent vintage. Not precisely the setting you would prefer your first encounter the man who will one day be one of the more influential counts in Westeros, but the expression he wears is more one of bemusement than displeasure.

    "An odd place to meet a king, Your Grace," he notes forthrightly.

    "Does making it the place to meet a princess and a queen besides make it more or less odd?" Dany pipes in sweetly from your left.

    The words are anything but unplanned. Though the glamour you wear is that of a simple doublet and hose with a dark red clock over it you had very deliberately chosen to include Dany to present the stranger parts of the story in a way that would be hard to challenge outright without having to untangle all manner of customs and expectations, hopefully giving the truth enough time to sink in.

    Truth is indeed what you plan to share with him, and plainly spoken at that, an offer of royal arbitration for more practical claims as well as the fact that so much of the age old feud had been forged by the spite and hatred of one old man, if man he can still be named after millennia of hollowing out the minds of his victims for his own aims.

    It is not an easy tale to tell as the knight would believe it all the more so as it ultimately hinges on the sins of his ancestor, however distant. Tis one thing to know one's kin were likely banished and quite another to be told it is for such a heinous reason. Still, this is a man who had seen the dead weirwood bloom, a man of faith as much as duty, and your reputation for growing weirwoods and championing the Old Gods in Essos serves you well. In the end he does believe, but the conclusion he draws is not the most fortunate. "This Rickard, this warg, he has seen the feud since the beginning, stoked it you say. If he could be made to tell to tell the full truth of who acted under his power and influence and who of their own will then we can finally have justice."

    "Ser Knight, you cannot litigate over two thousand years of war and ruin on the word of a half-mad murderer," your mother interjects, more bluntly than you would have put it, but it seems to the the right tack, the Blackwood heir sighs in frustration but nods.

    "You are right of course, Your Grace, this needs to end and not by bringing more of the past into it, I will speak to father on behalf of this plan, though... I must warn you that he does not see the Lady Catelyn well and for more than just her name." He pauses for a moment, perhaps seeking a delicate way to describe most indelicate sentiments. "Hoster had never shown an interest in women before falling head over heels in love with her. He would tell everyone that was one reason he would enjoy the Citadel, a lack of people pestering him about the matter and then well... a rather abrupt change. He might think this new family, whatever it is to be called, will be Bracken and little else in practice."

    Alas, you can see how someone already prejudiced against the match might take it that way. Hoster had claimed to not being the best with words and reading between the lines it is clear it had been Lady Catelyn who had engendered the plan to bring the Houses together by means of their heirs.

    Still, you have what you came for, now all that remains is to have the two lords themselves meet and place them before the circumstances, past and present.

    Who do you speak to first?

    [] Lord Jonos Bracken
    -[] Write in how

    [] Lord Tytons Blackwood
    -[] Write in how

    [] Write in

    OOC: Well here we are, pretty good rolls in this update.
     
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    • So the Lord is scared his son is pussy-whipped, or is he convinced she used "witch magic" to seduce him into not stabbing her in the eye over finding out she was a Hatfield on Mccoy land?

    Either way I just hope that once the evidence has been presented in court both of them will calm the fuck down and bond over giving Garfield his long overdue execution.
     
    DragonParadox said:
    Viserys does not know precisely IC but from the strength of his resistance to the spell (his likely will save bonus) level 10-15.
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    Woah we can tell that when we succeed?!?

    Perhaps we now have our IC reasoning for determining levels/HD.

    Some suite of minor offensive effects targeting Fort, Will and ....throw rocks at them? Yeah maybe this doesn't work.
     
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    Opening the Way ​

    Twenty Fourth Day of the Eleventh Month 293 AC

    "I appreciate the offer and even more the warning, but I think it is best to do this with an eye toward propriety, at least as much as circumstances allow," you add with a smile, drawing a somewhat shaky laugh from young Hoster. "I hope that by the time you reach Seaguard there will be a letter waiting for you there to put right what malice and misfortune both have set askew."

    After he had written his letter, you and your companions vanish back into the woods and from there into the sky, while the knights wake from their enchanted slumber to Hoster's excuses about 'fey miasmas'. Truth be told he makes a mediocre liar, but no one is minded to question the only mage among them about matters of the arcane, content that they have woken with only half an hour wasted in the grip of sorcery.

    Thankfully, upon your return to Raventree Hall it proves easy to find Ser Brynden. A dutiful heir he is, as often seen in his father's solar as in he training yard, if more enthusiastic for the former than the latter. The greater trouble is figuring out a means to meet with him, and him alone, without trespass or the danger of Ser Brynden speaking directly to his father on the matter prior to first meeting with you alone.

    In the end, it is Varys who strikes upon the right solution. She simply flies close enough to him in order to silently pass the invitation on directly into his thoughts. Most would be quite leery of reporting hearing voices from the ether, but given that Hoster had reported no fear of magic from his eldest brother you assume the knight would be curious enough to at least entertain the notion that it was genuine. So it is that you come to meet in the backroom of a tavern among the smell of cabbage, smoked ham, and wine of indifferent vintage. Not precisely the setting you would prefer to first encounter the man who will one day be one of the more influential counts in Westeros, but the expression he wears is more one of bemusement than displeasure.

    "An odd place to meet a king, Your Grace," he notes forthrightly.

    "Does making it the place to meet a princess and a queen besides make it more or less odd?" Dany pipes in sweetly from your left.

    The words are anything but unplanned. Although the glamor you wear is that of a simple doublet and hose with a dark red cloak over it, you had very deliberately chosen to include Dany to present the stranger parts of the story in a way that would be hard to challenge outright without having to untangle all manner of customs and expectations, hopefully giving the truth enough time to sink in.

    Truth is indeed what you plan to share with him, and plainly spoken at that, an offer of royal arbitration for more practical claims as well as the fact that so much of the age old feud had been forged by the spite and hatred of one old man, if man he can still be named after millennia of hollowing out the minds of his victims for his own aims.

    It is not an easy tale to tell, as the knight would believe it all the more so as it ultimately hinges on the sins of his ancestor, however distant. Tis one thing to know one's kin were likely banished and quite another to be told it is for such a heinous reason. Still, this is a man who had seen the dead tree bloom, a man of faith as much as duty, and your reputation for growing weirwoods and championing the Old Gods in Essos serves you well. In the end he does believe, but the conclusion he draws is not the most fortunate. "This Rickard, this warg, he has seen the feud since the beginning, stoked it you say. If he could be made to tell to tale, the full truth of who acted unter his power and influence and who of their own will, then we can finally have justice."

    "Ser Knight, you cannot litigate over two thousand years of war and ruin on the word of a half-mad murderer," your mother interjects, more bluntly than you would have put it, but it seems to be the right tack. The Blackwood heir sighs in frustration but nods.

    "You are right of course your Grace. This needs to end and not by bringing more of the past into it. I will speak to father on behalf of this plan, though... I must warn you that he does not see the lady Catelyn well, and for more than just her name." He pauses for a moment, perhaps seeking a delicate way to describe most undelicate sentiments. "Hoster had never shown an interest in women before falling head over heels in love with her. He would tell everyone that that was one reason he would enjoy the Citadel, a lack of people pestering him about the matter and then well... a rather abrupt change. He might think this new family, whatever it is to be called, will be Bracken and little else in practice."

    Alas, you can see how someone already prejudiced against the match might take it that way. Hoster had claimed to not being the best with words, and reading between the lines it is clear it had been Lady Catelyn who had engendered the plan to bring the Houses together by means of their heirs.

    Still, you have what you came for. Now all that remains is to met the two lords themselves and place them before the circumstances, past and present.

    Who do you speak to first?

    [] Lord Jonos Braken
    -[] Write in how

    [] Lord Tytons Blackwood
    -[] Write in how

    [] Write in

    OOC: Well here we are, pretty good tolls in this update. Not yet edited.
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    Here's an edited version of the chapter, DP.

    EDIT: Oops, looks like I was too late this time. Having to work at work again. :p
     
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    Evaunit02mark1 said:
    So the Lord is scared his son is pussy-whipped, or is he convinced she used "witch magic" to seduce him into not stabbing her in the eye over finding out she was a Hatfield on Mccoy land?

    Either way I just hope that once the evidence has been presented in court both of them will calm the fuck down and bond over giving Garfield his long overdue execution.
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    My next step in the MASTER PLAN is to pledge to take Hoster on as an "apprentice" *cough* I mean understudy like Maelor, except without the bear asses.

    No, who am I kidding? Even more bear asses, because Maelor will be in charge of keeping track of that.

    Basically, we personally vow to help him grow a backbone and become more suited for rule, so he can have an equal partnership with his prospective Bracken Bride.

    That's not even a conditional sop, that's a privilege. Beats a fostering to a Lord loyal to the most politically inept regional overlord in Westeros.
     
    Crake said:
    My next step in the MASTER PLAN is to pledge to take Hoster on as an "apprentice" *cough* I mean understudy like Maelor, except without the bear asses.

    No, who am I kidding? Even more bear asses, because Maelor will be in charge of keeping track of that.

    Basically, we personally vow to help him grow a backbone and become more suited for rule, so he can have an equal partnership with his prospective Bracken Bride.

    That's not even a conditional sop, that's a privilege. Beats a fostering to a Lord loyal to the most politically inept regional overlord in Westeros.
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    I like the general thrust but I wouldn't be promising devoted personal attention, certainly not on the level of Maelor who is currently overweight in responsibility and relatively neglected in support by necessity.

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    Joran level of focus would be good.
     
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    [X] Crake

    @Crake, I agree with @Deliste that we shouldn't promise more of Viserys' time than Hoster is realistically going to receive. We can easily promise a first rate education in magic and more attention than any nameless Scholarium initiate. We can also heavily imply that we will be able to foster a greater connection between Hoster and the OG, which should be a major selling point to Lord Blackwood.
     
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    [X] Crake

    @Crake, I agree with @Deliste that we shouldn't promise more of Viserys' time than Hoster is realistically going to receive. We can easily promise a first rate education in magic and more attention than any nameless Scholarium initiate. We can also heavily imply that we will be able to foster a greater connection between Hoster and the OG, which should be a major selling point to Lord Blackwood.
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    Yeah, quotes for truth. My main idea is to imply that we would give the whole matter our attention in general, propose hosting the wedding in the capital post-war, and on general ensure Hoster presents himself as someone who will advance Blackwood interests while maintaining the dynastic ties with Bracken and us keeping the peace as an impartial third party.
     
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