A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

Crake · Nov 12, 2019

@egoo Those are fine.

@Duesal That list isn't going way overboard, since it excludes pretty much everything on your Larder list you were planning to use for Day of Change rituals excepting the Warped Dragonsteel Sword.

[X] Egoo

MTB · Nov 12, 2019

Seriously, could we throw some potions and scrolls onto the sacrifice pile?

Duesal · Nov 12, 2019

egoo said:
Why? Becasue we have 6 of them, but they'll need an RA to de-curse into something resembling "safe to handle", and they are too niche to bother.

egoo said:
eh, I'm not using up the "easy" materials here, but some of the old and useless cursed stuf would do well to go away at last.

[X] Offer items to be broken for power.
-[X] That Which Devours (ind. CL: 18)
-[X] Cursed Prism (Ind. CL: 10)
-[X] 2 Swords of the Ruin Lord (ind. CL: 15)
-[X] Warped Dragonsteel Sword (Ind. CL: 12)
-[X] Total CL: 70

Nothing in the description for the Swords of the Ruin Lord indicates that they're cursed. Evil, sure, but technically all Valyrian Steel registers as evil. This is honestly a waste of some pretty damn good backup weapons.

MTB said:
Technically, we could sacrifice items created by/for us (scrolls/potions). At least there was no restriction iirc?

It isn't spelled out yet, no, but I've been down this road enough times to know DP will veto us if we try that.

Abhishekam · Nov 12, 2019

@egoo maybe add the Athame and enough random junk to bring it to 130? The cost and a 100 over to empower him? Sounds like a nice round numeber.

[X] Egoo

Besides we have blood sacrifices galore. Just cut off the Phoenixes HD for this month and we will make back the difference.

MTB · Nov 12, 2019

Duesal said:
It isn't spelled out yet, no, but I've been down this road enough times to know DP will veto us if we try that.

If it's mostly about the power imbued in the items, it wouldn't matter. Or in the act to offer them at all.

DragonParadox · Nov 12, 2019

MTB said:
Seriously, could we throw some potions and scrolls onto the sacrifice pile?

Unfortunately not. I made sure to plug up that hole so you could not for all intents and purposes sacrifice gold to make heart trees. Efreeti items are fine to sacrifice, hellish items are fine too so are strange relics yoiu find in your travels, but not stuff you make yourselves.

tarrangar · Nov 12, 2019

[x] Egoo

I'm going to vote for powering up Zathir, we can always get more sacrifices for the old gods, it's not like there's a shortage of enemies for us to kill and loot.

Duesal · Nov 12, 2019

MTB said:
If it's mostly about the power imbued in the items, it wouldn't matter. Or in the act to offer them at all.

The argument posed to me when I was barred from similar attempts was something along the lines of, "But it's not really a sacrifice for you if you just mass-produce everything."

I don't really agree with it, but that's what I've been told multiple times.

Things evil empires mass produce on the other hand are fair game.

egoo · Nov 12, 2019

Duesal said:
Nothing in the description for the Swords of the Ruin Lord indicates that they're cursed. Evil, sure, but technically all Valyrian Steel registers as evil. This is honestly a waste of some pretty damn good backup weapons.

Didn't we note IC that we won't use them without throughly researching first?
Becasue for me that would make them jsut as throughly useless.
No matter the amount of Researchers, we'll seemingly always have better projects than loot-identification

[X] Offer items to be broken for power.
-[X] That Which Devours (ind. CL: 18)
-[X] Cursed Prism (Ind. CL: 10)
-[X] 2 Swords of the Ruin Lord (ind. CL: 15)
-[X] Warped Dragonsteel Sword (Ind. CL: 12)
-[X] 4 Fire Giant Greatswords (Ind. CL: 5)
-[X] Withering Athame (Caster Level 15)
-[X] Total CL: 105

I'm hesitant to add Efreeti armors and such because we haven't grown those Heart Trees yet.
@Duesal, @Goldfish, would you mind adding up the minimum of sacrifices needed for 26 Heart Trees via armor and such?
I really don't known how to do that myslef without CL spelled out on the item's description.

MTB · Nov 12, 2019

Duesal said:
I don't really agree with it, but that's what I've been told multiple times.

Well, then the sacrifice is about the act and the history of the item, not the item as such.

Duesal · Nov 12, 2019

egoo said:
Didn't we note IC that we won't use them without throughly researching first?
Becasue for me that would make them jsut as throughly useless.
No matter the amount of Researchers, we'll seemingly always have better projects than loot-identification :/

I'm pretty sure that was just fluff of, "Let's run this through identification first."

No curses were detected.

Can you just use Fire Giant Greatswords instead? Those are legitimately good backup blades, even for Companions.

Abhishekam · Nov 12, 2019

Duesal said:
The argument posed to me when I was barred from similar attempts was something along the lines of, "But it's not really a sacrifice for you if you just mass-produce everything."

I don't really agree with it, but that's what I've been told multiple times.

Things evil empires mass produce on the other hand are fair game.

Eh, I like to think it's the story behind the stuff as much as the magic. The stuff we make is fresh off the Forge without so much as a fetch quest to their legend.

The stuff we get from Giends and monsters is covered with enough Pain and Death to make Atilla the Hun gag. Gods eat the Legends as much as the Magic. Sounds cooler atleast.

Crake · Nov 12, 2019

Do we honestly need backup weapons?

@egoo still good, from what I can tell.

You need 130 CL of items to grow 26 Tier 3 trees.

Goldfish · Nov 12, 2019

I don't want to sacrifice the Swords of the Ruin Lord yet, y'all. They aren't cursed and have a really neat enchantment. We have plenty of other stuff we can feed Zathir.

MTB · Nov 12, 2019

Aren't the Fire Giant Greatswords Large weapons? Who of our companions can use them without problems?

Crake · Nov 12, 2019

Goldfish said:
I don't want to sacrifice the Swords of the Ruin Lord yet, y'all. They aren't cursed and have a really neat enchantment. We have plenty of other stuff we can feed Zathir.

Alright.

[X] Offer items to be broken for power.
-[X] That Which Devours (ind. CL: 18)
-[X] Cursed Prism (Ind. CL: 10)
-[X] Warped Dragonsteel Sword (Ind. CL: 12)
-[X] x10 Fire Giant Greatswords (Ind. CL: 5)
-[X] Withering Athame (Caster Level 15)
-[X] Total CL: 103

Goldfish · Nov 12, 2019

MTB said:
Aren't the Fire Giant Greatswords Large weapons? Who of our companions can use them without problems?

He meant the Swords of the Ruin Lord. They are very nice weapons.

egoo · Nov 12, 2019

Duesal said:
I'm pretty sure that was just fluff of, "Let's run this through identification first."

No curses were detected.

Can you just use Fire Giant Greatswords instead? Those are legitimately good backup blades, even for Companions.

Alright, I will, no biggie.

But I still need help with deciding what items we'll sacrifice for the trees now - if we are to empower Jazzirian with everything that we don't need.

[X] Offer items to be broken for power.
-[X] That Which Devours (ind. CL: 18)
-[X] Cursed Prism (Ind. CL: 10)
-[X] Warped Dragonsteel Sword (Ind. CL: 12)
-[X] 10 Fire Giant Greatswords (Ind. CL: 5)
-[X] Withering Athame (Caster Level 15)
-[X] Total CL: 103

EDIT: Crake'd.
Why did I bother editing, again..?

Crake · Nov 12, 2019

egoo said:
Alright, I will, no biggie.

But I still need help with deciding what items we'll sacrifice for the trees now - if we are to empower Jazzirian with everything that we don't need.

[X] Offer items to be broken for power.
-[X] That Which Devours (ind. CL: 18)
-[X] Cursed Prism (Ind. CL: 10)
-[X] Warped Dragonsteel Sword (Ind. CL: 12)
-[X] 6 Fire Giant Greatswords (Ind. CL: 5)
-[X] Withering Athame (Caster Level 15)
-[X] Total CL: 103

EDIT: Crake'd.
Why did I bother editing, again..?

I miscalculated. Need 10 Fire Giant weapons total.

Goldfish · Nov 12, 2019

Crake said:
Alright.

[X] Offer items to be broken for power.
-[X] That Which Devours (ind. CL: 18)
-[X] Cursed Prism (Ind. CL: 10)
-[X] Warped Dragonsteel Sword (Ind. CL: 12)
-[X] x6 Fire Giant Greatswords (Ind. CL: 5)
-[X] Withering Athame (Caster Level 15)
-[X] Total CL: 103

That works. If y'all want, we can go much further than that, though. We have 83 sets of +1 Efreeti armor and 83 +1 greatswords. That's a combined caster level of 830. We could part with a couple hundred CL without much trouble.

Duesal · Nov 12, 2019

egoo said:
Alright, I will, no biggie.

But I still need help with deciding what items we'll sacrifice for the trees now - if we are to empower Jazzirian with everything that we don't need.

[X] Offer items to be broken for power.
-[X] That Which Devours (ind. CL: 18)
-[X] Cursed Prism (Ind. CL: 10)
-[X] Warped Dragonsteel Sword (Ind. CL: 12)
-[X] 6 Fire Giant Greatswords (Ind. CL: 5)
-[X] Withering Athame (Caster Level 15)
-[X] Total CL: 103

EDIT: Crake'd.
Why did I bother editing, again..?

Greatswords and armor, courtesy of the Fire Giants. Each tree needs 4 pieces of enchanted gear, each piece being a total of 5 CL, to get to Tier-3 status.

For twenty-six Tier-3 Weirwood Heart Trees you're looking at 104 sacrifices of CL 5 gear.

Slacker · Nov 12, 2019

[X] Egoo

I'm totally down with throwing more into the woodchipper for a greater return. WILL IT BLEND?!

Crake · Nov 12, 2019

Goldfish said:
That works. If y'all want, we can go much further than that, though. We have 83 sets of +1 Efreeti armor and 83 +1 greatswords. That's a combined caster level of 830. We could part with a couple hundred CL without much trouble.

How much? @Duesal?

egoo · Nov 12, 2019

Just so ya'll understand, there's a very good reason I'm fully intending to empty out our reserves of items if that what it takes.
CL of 500 or so, maybe..?

Jazziairn can die to Tiamat.
All our gods can die to her.
Even with all our preparation, and having R'hlor join in.

We pretty much require as much power as we can shove into every and each of them to get our chances a bit better than "suicidal", apparently.

Abhishekam · Nov 12, 2019

egoo said:
Alright, I will, no biggie.

But I still need help with deciding what items we'll sacrifice for the trees now - if we are to empower Jazzirian with everything that we don't need.

[X] Offer items to be broken for power.
-[X] That Which Devours (ind. CL: 18)
-[X] Cursed Prism (Ind. CL: 10)
-[X] Warped Dragonsteel Sword (Ind. CL: 12)
-[X] 10 Fire Giant Greatswords (Ind. CL: 5)
-[X] Withering Athame (Caster Level 15)
-[X] Total CL: 103

EDIT: Crake'd.
Why did I bother editing, again..?

Add 6 Giants Blades? Bring it to a good 133? I'd like to send a 100 to empower Zathir.

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