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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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DragonParadox said:
It indeed was not, thanks for reminding me.

Viserys 1550
Dany and Lya 2250

So you guys can take the -5000 without deleveling.
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Does this include the surprise CR 20 fight with a stillborn Elder Brain?
Artemis1992 said:
It might not be something to improve the willsave.

Ymeri also has an ability that allows her to use Hold Monster (or if they fail a save high enough Dominate Monster) on any nearby fire type creatures.
That's a good candidate for Will in my guess.
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That would be unfortunate given that we've got that as a bonus spell.
 
Duesal said:
That would be unfortunate given that we've got that as a bonus spell.
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Just saying, a lesser version of this:
Fire Tyrant (Ex) Ymeri's servants bow to her will and instinctively follow her commands. As a free action, Ymeri can grant all of her allies with the fire subtype within 300 feet any two of her teamwork feats. Each creature retains these feats until it moves out of range or until Ymeri falls unconscious, dies, or uses this ability again. Three times per day as a standard action, Ymeri can manipulate a creature with the fire subtype or a creature on fire that she can detect with her flamesense ability, affecting it as per hold monster (CL 28th, Will DC 36 negates). If the target fails the saving throw by 10 or more, it is instead affected as if by dominate monster (CL 28th).
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would thematically work for Will.
 
I don't think Will is just a reskinned Dominate or Hold Monster ability. That would be more like a gift of Command or Dominance. I still remember how close we came to getting soul sucked by the Bloodstone Emperor, so I'm leaning towards anything which nebulously improves our "Will".

[X] Seek out a specific blessing (Cost 5000 XP)
-[X] Of the Will
 
Azel said:
I won't disclose the details of what can be gotten here, but what I will confirm is that spending XP ensures that you get something rather shiny while just rolling the dice might indeed result in lesser rewards.
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I'm inclined to spend XP simply because we can't well guarantee the nat100 on "random" roll to get even shinier reward than a pre-set one.
:C

[X] Seek out a specific blessing (Cost 5000 XP)
-[X] Of the Will
-[X] In preparation, have "Channel Vigor"'s effect switched to Spirit (+6 to willsave).
-[X] Have the spells Surge of Fortune (allows to take nat. 20 = +20 ), Grand Destiny (1/4 charges = +4), Moment of Greatness (doubling bonus from Dany's Persistomancy = +5), Ruin Delver's Fortune (equal to Charisma modifier = + 12 Luck), Moment of Prescience (equal to CL = +23 Insight) cast appropriately before consuming the Heart.
--[X] Total willsave = 99 +1d6 (Mythic Surge).
 
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@Duesal, @Goldfish, @Artemis1992, please append the following part to the votes regardless of what ya want from Herald.

egoo said:
[X] In preparation, have "Channel Vigor"'s effect switched to Spirit (+6 to willsave).
-[X] Have the spells Surge of Fortune (allows to take nat. 20 = +20 ), Grand Destiny (1/4 charges = +4), Moment of Greatness (doubling bonus from Dany's Persistomancy = +5), Ruin Delver's Fortune (equal to Charisma modifier = + 12 Luck), Moment of Prescience (equal to CL = +23 Insight) cast appropriately before consuming the Heart.
--[X] Total willsave = 99 +1d6 (Mythic Surge).
-[X] Attempt to steal more than just the power of Herald but strike at Ymeri herself.
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We came here to eat ass and kick Gods, and we're all out of ass.
 
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Goldfish said:
I still remember how close we came to getting soul sucked by the Bloodstone Emperor, so I'm leaning towards anything which nebulously improves our "Will".
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We did not come remotely close to it.
We made our save and only if we had failed it three of our items, starting with the least valuable, would have been destroyed in the attempt to protect us.
 
Azel said:
Erm... attacking the Herald is precisely that already. It is a big chunk of Ymeris power given sentience.
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Eh, then I'll delete that part.
I just assumed that the level of buffing will allow to try for even shinier reward than what we are spending the 5000XP on.
 
Woah, slow down there, Satan.

[X] Seek out a specific blessing (Cost 5000 XP)
-[X] Of the Will
-[X] In preparation, have "Channel Vigor"'s effect switched to Spirit (+6 to willsave).
-[X] Have the spells Surge of Fortune (allows to take nat. 20 = +20 ), Grand Destiny (1/4 charges = +4), Moment of Greatness (doubling bonus from Dany's Persistomancy = +5), Ruin Delver's Fortune (equal to Charisma modifier = +12 Luck), Moment of Prescience (use Wild Arcana while having Lya cast Harmonic Chorus on Viserys beforehand - increasing CL to 24, and as the bonus is equal to CL = +24 Insight) cast appropriately before consuming the Heart.
--[X] Total Willsave = 100 +1d6 (Mythic Surge).

Don't get greedy. If something breaks because of greed, make sure you can always pay the price in coin.
 
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Crake said:
Woah, slow down there, Satan.

[X] Seek out a specific blessing (Cost 5000 XP)
-[X] Of the Will

Don't get greedy. If something breaks because of greed, make sure you can always pay the price in coin.
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But why not vote for my elaborate(ish) buff-plan, if Azel already confirmed we are striking at Ymeri anyway?

I spent quite some time compiling all those.
:(
 
[X] Seek out a specific blessing (Cost 5000 XP)
-[X] Of the Senses
-[X] In preparation, have "Channel Vigor"'s effect switched to Spirit (+6 to willsave).
-[X] Have the spells Surge of Fortune (allows to take nat. 20 = +20 ), Grand Destiny (1/4 charges = +4), Moment of Greatness (doubling bonus from Dany's Persistomancy = +5), Ruin Delver's Fortune (equal to Charisma modifier = + 12 Luck), Moment of Prescience (equal to CL = +23 Insight) cast appropriately before consuming the Heart.
--[X] Total willsave = 99 +1d6 (Mythic Surge).
 
egoo said:
But why not vote for my elaborate(ish) buff-plan, if Azel already confirmed we are striking at Ymeri anyway?

I spent quite some time compiling all those.
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Because I think they will be worse than useless. What, you think a God has to break their fist against an immovable wall? They can just dig under it. They're a God.

The only reason I'm voting for this madness (besides my admitted love of gambling) is because Yss is here to provide backup. We might as well be naked without that.
 
@Goldfish, can we further increase the momentary Willsave by somehow adding CL to cast Moment of Prescience, or Charisma for Ruin Delver's Fortune?

Every little bit counts :V
Crake said:
Because I think they will be worse than useless. What, you think a God has to break their fist against an immovable wall? They can just dig under it. They're a God.

The only reason I'm voting for this madness (besides my admitted love of gambling) is because Yss is here to provide backup. We might as well be naked without that.
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Oh, she undoubtedly will find a way.

Good thing that with short buff-diration, this is very much hit-and-run, so hopefully she won't have the time to really apply herself.

And Yss is best snek, too.
 
egoo said:
@Goldfish, can we further increase the momentary Willsave by somehow adding CL to cast Moment of Prescience, or Charisma for Ruin Delver's Fortune?

Every little bit counts :V

Oh, she undoubtedly will find a way.

Good thing that with short buff-diration, this is very much hit-and-run, so hopefully she won't have the time to really apply herself.

And Yss is best snek, too.
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You might as well. If it turns into an opposed set of rolls, rather than single DC, it'll be because we slightly failed by 1 point.
 
egoo said:
@Goldfish, can we further increase the momentary Willsave by somehow adding CL to cast Moment of Prescience, or Charisma for Ruin Delver's Fortune?

Every little bit counts :V

Oh, she undoubtedly will find a way.

Good thing that with short buff-diration, this is very much hit-and-run, so hopefully she won't have the time to really apply herself.

And Yss is best snek, too.
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Moment of Prescience can go up to +25. We can boost Viserys' caster level to 24 by using Wild Arcana while Lya boosts us with Harmonic Chorus. Can't use the Moment of Greatness trick to boost it further because that is being used elsewhere.

It's only another +1, but that gets us to a nice round 100+1d6.
 
[X] Seek out a specific blessing (Cost 5000 XP)
-[X] Of the Will
-[X] In preparation, have "Channel Vigor"'s effect switched to Spirit (+6 to willsave).
-[X] Have the spells Surge of Fortune (allows to take nat. 20 = +20 ), Grand Destiny (1/4 charges = +4), Moment of Greatness (doubling bonus from Dany's Persistomancy = +5), Ruin Delver's Fortune (equal to Charisma modifier = + 12 Luck), Moment of Prescience (equal to CL = +23 Insight) cast appropriately before consuming the Heart.
--[X] Total willsave = 99 +1d6 (Mythic Surge).
 
[X] Seek out a specific blessing (Cost 5000 XP)
-[X] Of the Will
-[X] In preparation, have "Channel Vigor"'s effect switched to Spirit (+6 to willsave).
-[X] Have the spells Surge of Fortune (allows to take nat. 20 = +20 ), Grand Destiny (1/4 charges = +4), Moment of Greatness (doubling bonus from Dany's Persistomancy = +5), Ruin Delver's Fortune (equal to Charisma modifier = +12 Luck), Moment of Prescience (use Wild Arcana while having Lya cast Harmonic Chorus on Viserys beforehand - increasing CL to 24, and as the bonus is equal to CL = +24 Insight) cast appropriately before consuming the Heart.
--[X] Total Willsave = 100 +1d6 (Mythic Surge).

@Crake, @Artemis1992, @fan550, some slight modifications as per Goldfish, take note.
 
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