Y'know, if we have a condemned criminal awaiting execution who we don't care about, we could put the mask on them, let the Mind Seed do it's thing, them stripmine it for every bit of useful Intel it possesses.

I mean, and I am not suggesting anything here, but Lormar is still in the Larder...just waiting there. If you really want to try that he would be a good candidate.
 
A signle illithid's worth of intel is worthy of our attention these days... how, exactly?

And wouldn't the curse also count towards the CL of the item?
Because with Mindseed it's a fairly better sacrifice.

[X] Leave the mask as is, the powerful energies making up tre trap for the unwary can serve as a good sacrifice to your Gods.
 
The mask is pretty neat, IMO. The +10 Intimidate bonus would cost us 1000 IM to replicate ourselves. Viserys doesn't need it, of course, but the item could be useful for someone who needs to boost their Intimidate bonus.

The face mimicking effect is interesting, too.
We're well past this stage, dude. We're regularly trading in millions of IM now. If we were talking about something that cost 5,000 IM or more to make I'd appreciate the value in terms crafting time, but 1,000 IM is tiny, and the effect is pretty limited.

To me it's akin to getting excited about a couple of Amulets of PfE. Sure, they're useful and they'll be put to use, but we've grown beyond that a long time ago.
 
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@DragonParadox, if we want to offer Gith the access to Fleshforging, is this the point to speak up?
We still had to see the reaction/explanation on the statue so I assume at least 1 more update...
 
@DragonParadox, are we allowed to purchase a copy of all the Gith's Psionic lore and Aberration lore and histories?
  1. Psionic lore only the basics, the rest is considered a sacred art passed down from master to student
  2. Aberration lore, you guys can get most of it, there are parts too dangerous/secret to share on the strength of such a new and still untested alliance
@DragonParadox, if we want to offer Gith the access to Fleshforging, is this the point to speak up?
We still had to see the reaction/explanation on the statue so I assume at least 1 more update...

You can do it now or next update, both work
 
  1. Psionic lore only the basics, the rest is considered a sacred art passed down from master to student
  2. Aberration lore, you guys can get most of it, there are parts too dangerous/secret to share on the strength of such a new and still untested alliance


You can do it now or next update, both work
Excellent. The psionic lore is going to come in handy for research.
 
[X] Leave the mask as is, the powerful energies making up tre trap for the unwary can serve as a good sacrifice to your Gods.
-[X] Request the access to whatever Psionic lore they consider justifiable to share with us, as well as everything they can share about Aberrations in general, and Illithids specifically.
-[X] Offer them access to Fleshforged Creatures, made to their specifications
 
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[X] Leave the mask as is, the powerful energies making up tre trap for the unwary can serve as a good sacrifice to your Gods.
-[X] Request the access to whatever Psionic lore they consider justifiable to share with us, as well as everything they can share about Aberrations in general, and Illithids specifically.
-[X] Offer them access to Fleshforged Creatures
They would probably prefer Fungal Forged servitors, as Plant Creatures are much more difficult to influence or manipulate with Mind-Affecting effects.

[X] egoo
 
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@egoo, we're still in a new alliance with them, so we should make clear we'll pay fairly for any lore they're willing to offer.

As for the Fleshforged creatures... we probably should have brought Breath Taker to vouch for us given their likely reservations, but here goes nothing.

[X] egoo

@DragonParadox, if we make them strong enough warbeasts, will that hopefully free them up enough for a master crafter to be available in the near future?
 
BTW, @DragonParadox, you never covered the purchase of the single-use Teleport, Plane Shift, and Sending charms we wanted to get in Vialisk.
 
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They would probably prefer Fungal Forged servitors, as Plant Creatures are much more difficult to influence or manipulate with Mind-Affecting effects.
@egoo, we're still in a new alliance with them, so we should make clear we'll pay fairly for any lore they're willing to offer.
Amended, then.

[X] Leave the mask as is, the powerful energies making up tre trap for the unwary can serve as a good sacrifice to your Gods.
-[X] Request the access to whatever Psionic lore they consider justifiable to share with us, as well as everything they can share about Aberrations in general, and Illithids specifically.
--[X] We will pay fairly for any lore they are willing to share, and perhaps even offer some of ours if they are interested in any we don't consider dangerous secrets.
-[X] Offer them access to Fleshforged and Plantforged creatures, made to their specifications.
 
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@DragonParadox, if we make them strong enough warbeasts, will that hopefully free them up enough for a master crafter to be available in the near future?

It's posibile yes, anything that helps with the war helps with that.

BTW, @DragonParadox, you never covered the purchase of the single-use Teleport, Plane Shift, and Sending charms we wanted to get in Vialisk.

Oops, remind me to edit that in what I'm done with the current interlude.
 
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You could but he is offering to purify the mind seed out of it for free and its a perfectly good psionic item.
A mind seed seem a valuable sacrifice, and a bonus to intimidation checks aren't that great an enchantment, so I'm not sure if the bonus to intimidation is worth more than it would be to sacrifice the mask.

Can you tell us the masks current CL, and how much it would be reduced by removing the mind seed?
 
[X] Leave the mask as is, the powerful energies making up tre trap for the unwary can serve as a good sacrifice to your Gods.
-[X] Request the access to whatever Psionic lore they consider justifiable to share with us, as well as everything they can share about Aberrations in general, and Illithids specifically.
--[X] We will pay fairly for any lore they are willing to share, and perhaps even offer some of ours if they are interested in any we don't consider dangerous secrets.
-[X] Offer them access to Fleshforged and Plantforged creatures, made to their specifications.

I will vote for this, can we also tell them that the Fungus Forge, can process corpses into creatures, so they can trade us the corpses of their enemies if they want to.
 
@DragonParadox, although the maps we're bad, Randar said that Githzerai regularly traveled directly to and from the strongholds and battlegrounds in Nirvana and Elysium. Did the maps at least have accurate information for those?

And if not, could someone show us what they look like, perhaps using Telepathy or Illusions, so we can eventually Teleport their ourselves?
 
@DragonParadox, although the maps we're bad, Randar said that Githzerai regularly traveled directly to and from the strongholds and battlegrounds in Nirvana and Elysium. Did the maps at least have accurate information for those?

And if not, could someone show us what they look like, perhaps using Telepathy or Illusions, so we can eventually Teleport their ourselves?
I'd think those would not be so much map locations as teleportation targets. Those could be usefull too though. Maybe even more.
 
@DragonParadox, although the maps we're bad, Randar said that Githzerai regularly traveled directly to and from the strongholds and battlegrounds in Nirvana and Elysium. Did the maps at least have accurate information for those?

And if not, could someone show us what they look like, perhaps using Telepathy or Illusions, so we can eventually Teleport their ourselves?
It's probably better to travel there with the Githzerai the first time, having a reference from the Githzerai, will make diplomacy easier.
 
It's probably better to travel there with the Githzerai the first time, having a reference from the Githzerai, will make diplomacy easier.
Yeah, that's a good point.

Surprise!Red Dragon and Grouch!Richard showing up in one of the Azata's last redoubts might cause a bit of a kerfluffle.
 
@DragonParadox, although the maps we're bad, Randar said that Githzerai regularly traveled directly to and from the strongholds and battlegrounds in Nirvana and Elysium. Did the maps at least have accurate information for those?

And if not, could someone show us what they look like, perhaps using Telepathy or Illusions, so we can eventually Teleport their ourselves?
Hopefully we meet someone there who can sell us a decent map. This is the second time in a row we flubbed this roll, the first time being when we were trying to get a good map in Heaven.
 
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