A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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I am pretty sure Sansa would care about him given what we have seen in quest of their interactions, and the staff might also notice as well, so it is not as simple as you are proposing.
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Not enough to look for him or actually wonder why he isn't around I think, as long as Robb has a good explanation they will just go along with it, I mean, where could he have gone?
The Godswood is probably the best idea, we could take someone with a ribbon of disguise to play with Robb for a while if that's what it takes.
And yes, even then there would be a little risk, but that the point of being a child, and nothing in all the realms can buy that.
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I agree, it's too much needless finagling for little gain, especially since we're seeing him in the dreamlands anyway.
... Telepathic is so OP.
Anyway, @Crake, currently we have three CR 20 corpses -- the Asurendra, the Mythic Cornugon, and the Efreeti Archmage Apprentice. I'd recommend using the Efreeti Archmage Apprentice while keeping the Asurendra and Mythic Cornugon in stock for future purchases.
Hmmm... it's a long shot, and I'm not sure that it's mechanically sound, but could we work with Dany to Miracle into existence a persistent Fission effect for Jon, giving him 24 hours of having two bodies to do things with?
Mechanically, I see it involving using Miracle to replicate the Fission power, on the basis that duplicating a 7th level power is similar in power level to duplicating a 7th level spell. Applying persistent spell to the effect would normally increase the level to 13, but Dany can use divine metamagic to circumvent this cost for spells she casts. Applying a personal spell to another person is something I'm unsure how to rate, as I'm unaware of a metamagic that does this.
There are 2-3 spots where the rules would be stretched by this: applying divine metamagic to another person's spells, applying persistent spell to a power, and applying the effect of a spell that targets the caster to another creature. That said, if there's a spell where the rules are open to interpretation, it's Miracle/Wish/Reality Revision.
So I ask, can we do this?
Mechanically, I see it involving using Miracle to replicate the Fission power, on the basis that duplicating a 7th level power is similar in power level to duplicating a 7th level spell. Applying persistent spell to the effect would normally increase the level to 13, but Dany can use divine metamagic to circumvent this cost for spells she casts. Applying a personal spell to another person is something I'm unsure how to rate, as I'm unaware of a metamagic that does this.
There are 2-3 spots where the rules would be stretched by this: applying divine metamagic to another person's spells, applying persistent spell to a power, and applying the effect of a spell that targets the caster to another creature. That said, if there's a spell where the rules are open to interpretation, it's Miracle/Wish/Reality Revision.
So I ask, can we do this?
So anyone else want Chocolate Fountains? DP confirmed it's only 1000 IM and a Miracle away?
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Chocolate fountains would be great.
Endless Chocolate Fountains. Even assuming it's like heroes Feast and just give 20 people worth of Chocolate a day. Its endless chocolate. I'd want 10 for any party.
I'd make it fancy like a solid silver fountain and a original load of chocolate (dont know how muchbthats worth so let's call it 1000 IM) and then Mirwcle ot to be endless ( Works like heroes feast enough chocolate to count as a feast for 20 people a day). Plus it's a Miracle to magic away stuff like insect, cleanliness or freshness problems.
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I think we could get away with a few hundred chocolate fountains all around Sorcerer's Deep so that everyone can enjoy.
So long as DP is ok with the Miracle ensuring freshness, cleanliness and insect repellent. Otherwise its e. Can we spread a bit though before we cover SD? Hospitals, Public Schools and Orphonages mainly first. A bit of a treat for kids.
Plus dark chocolate is actually a bit of a healthy treat. Both emotionally and physically.
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If it's bound by Miracle we're going to be doing way less. It's not a good idea to leave Viserys drained on spells when we can help it. If we're limiting it like that I'd do the biggest hospitals and orphanages first.
True but DP said with Miracle. So probably no public fountains everywhere..atleast in the first few years. (Hey, Viserys could spend his extra spells on a lot worse stuff that public chocolate fountains) But a nice decoration to be made on off days.
One a day on non mission days should get 12 to 20 a month easy. Maybe mix it up with endless espresso fountains for the Inquisition.
Or a Amber Honey fountain and a Maple Waterfall fountain.
The great wonders of the material plane: Chocolate, Coffee, Honey and Maple Syrup.
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[X] Crake
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She will still be the Queen of the Pseudodragons!
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Not that I'm aware of. I've always been stumped with anything below CR 1. I think you can just halve the price proportional to the CR? Like CR 1/3 would cost a third of CR 1?
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If you really don't think we can pull it off we could go with a slightly less daring plan.
[] Try to get Jon Snow to Dany's Nameday celebration
-[] Speak with Lord Stark about it (Write in)
-[] Discreetly travel to Winterfell to talk to Lord Stark, bring a suitable gift for him, this is a social visit after all (A bottle of fine wine should do), inform him of Dany's request and your desire to preserve even some of her childhood if at all possible. Regardless of what the heavy shadow of the past, and the uncertainty of the future, you believe that our houses can one day be allies and friends, you are not requesting a ward or a concession, just one day so children can be children.
-[] If he agrees, share your plan to have Jon "escape" for the day with Dany and Asha (if Viserys thinks mentioning Asha won't sour the mood)
-[] Bring Dany and Asha with you, send a message to Jon to meet with you somewhere private (the old tower should do)
-[] Have him tell Robb where he is going and to make a convincing story about his whereabouts, If he thinks Robb won't be put in a too awkward position, he can come meet Asha before we leave.
The idea is that Lord Stark should know about the plan, but pretend he doesn't, Robb and Jon should know where they can disappear for a while (Godswood, exploring the crypts, etc), if someone notices Ned can then "reprimand" Robb while still protecting the real reason of why Jon is absent.
A double layer of safety, and Viserys in character seems to think he can convince Ned or otherwise the choice would not be there.
Seriously, Dany asked for this, this is the best present we can give her by a long shot, let her be herself, free and careless, just for day.
[] Try to get Jon Snow to Dany's Nameday celebration
-[] Speak with Lord Stark about it (Write in)
-[] Discreetly travel to Winterfell to talk to Lord Stark, bring a suitable gift for him, this is a social visit after all (A bottle of fine wine should do), inform him of Dany's request and your desire to preserve even some of her childhood if at all possible. Regardless of what the heavy shadow of the past, and the uncertainty of the future, you believe that our houses can one day be allies and friends, you are not requesting a ward or a concession, just one day so children can be children.
-[] If he agrees, share your plan to have Jon "escape" for the day with Dany and Asha (if Viserys thinks mentioning Asha won't sour the mood)
-[] Bring Dany and Asha with you, send a message to Jon to meet with you somewhere private (the old tower should do)
-[] Have him tell Robb where he is going and to make a convincing story about his whereabouts, If he thinks Robb won't be put in a too awkward position, he can come meet Asha before we leave.
The idea is that Lord Stark should know about the plan, but pretend he doesn't, Robb and Jon should know where they can disappear for a while (Godswood, exploring the crypts, etc), if someone notices Ned can then "reprimand" Robb while still protecting the real reason of why Jon is absent.
A double layer of safety, and Viserys in character seems to think he can convince Ned or otherwise the choice would not be there.
Seriously, Dany asked for this, this is the best present we can give her by a long shot, let her be herself, free and careless, just for day.
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He doesn't know that we know about Jon. This seems more than a little pointless, a dreamlands visit to Jon is plenty and avoids an awkward conversation with Stark.
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It's not pointless, its the best gift we can give Dany.
Whats power worth if not for making our family happy?
Crake
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Also, c'mon guys. Knowing our luck, Sansa is going to burst into Jon's room just as we make the switch.
Exhibit A) Myrcella chasing our niece's cat into the forgotten storage room we just so happened to choose? Out of a massive keep noted for having tons of cats in it from as far back as the Dance?
We're a magnet for them. I'm honestly surprised Margaery didn't burst into the meeting we held with Danelle and Brandon.
Though thinking about it, @Duesal, one thing I would be okay with is switching with Jon and replacing him with ourselves for a few hours. There honestly shouldn't be anything that can see through a Cloak of Khyber, and we're familiar enough with Jon's character to act like him. Who would bother him in the Godswood? Arya? We can distract her for a few hours. Ned Stark? That could be supremely awkward if it turns into a heartfelt father-and-son conversation, but also potentially hilarious. Sansa (honestly what I'm betting on) or Robb? Oh jeez, that could actually be kind of hard... though they're just kids... we can fool a couple of kids.
Exhibit A) Myrcella chasing our niece's cat into the forgotten storage room we just so happened to choose? Out of a massive keep noted for having tons of cats in it from as far back as the Dance?
We're a magnet for them. I'm honestly surprised Margaery didn't burst into the meeting we held with Danelle and Brandon.
Though thinking about it, @Duesal, one thing I would be okay with is switching with Jon and replacing him with ourselves for a few hours. There honestly shouldn't be anything that can see through a Cloak of Khyber, and we're familiar enough with Jon's character to act like him. Who would bother him in the Godswood? Arya? We can distract her for a few hours. Ned Stark? That could be supremely awkward if it turns into a heartfelt father-and-son conversation, but also potentially hilarious. Sansa (honestly what I'm betting on) or Robb? Oh jeez, that could actually be kind of hard... though they're just kids... we can fool a couple of kids.
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We are not going into Jon's room, he is going to sneak out under some pretense, something stupid and pointless like having fun, Sansa will run the other way the moment she suspects a thing.