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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Whew, was keeping up with Divided Loyalties, and only now caught up with the story posts.

What did I miss?

In related news, the story flows much better when you can read the 3~4 snippets for each mini-arc in one go, but paradoxically, that means you didn't vote.

I'm digging these Crowlander Houses, as they each have their own little situation and plot.
 
BronzeTongue said:
I was thinking along the lines of it literally growing through a gate into a prepared anchor location. Depending on the scale and difficulty of the project, we could move the type of reward it generates around. This would basically be a generator, so if placement is complicated the we just make a smaller number of larger ones.

If we made an automated scroll orchard, for example, and scaled the effect to the size of the tree (based on initial sacrifice) we could free up crafting time. Not to mention the new stuff we could try with reliable scroll production that didn't eat valuable labor.

There'd probably need to be a level or type cap on the scrolls though. Maybe only spells that touch on their domains level 5-6 and below? Or possibly variable growth time based on the power of the effect, assuming that would be allowed at all anyway. Using the power to grow rare reagents the old gods know about but we don't have access to on a monthly basis might be a more reasonable reward.

Edit: misread your post. I was assuming having the old gods in active control of the gates would make them more comfortable with the idea; especially if the sites we chose on the other ends are defended/hidden.
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I think the issue the OG would have is that the Gates aren't really permanent. They can be made magically Permanent, perhaps, but that's not really true permanence, not when a Dispel, Disjunction, or AMF effect can close the Gate and sever the root cluster. The OG exist within the Heart Trees to some extent, so the prospect of having pieces cut off and left to languish in other Planes is probably somewhat disturbing.

That's why we would instead need to figure out how to grow Heart Trees with roots that can naturally grow into other Planes.

Rather than scrolls, which is a kinda strange byproduct for a free to produce, it would be a bit more fitting if energies harvested by such Planar Heart Trees were stored in some sort of fruit produced by the tree, which could mimic the effects of a portion when consumed.
 
Goldfish said:
I think the issue the OG would have is that the Gates aren't really permanent. They can be made magically Permanent, perhaps, but that's not really true permanence, not when a Dispel, Disjunction, or AMF effect can close the Gate and sever the root cluster. The OG exist within the Heart Trees to some extent, so the prospect of having pieces cut off and left to languish in other Planes is probably somewhat disturbing.

That's why we would instead need to figure out how to grow Heart Trees with roots that can naturally grow into other Planes.

Rather than scrolls, which is a kinda strange byproduct for a free to produce, it would be a bit more fitting if energies harvested by such Planar Heart Trees were stored in some sort of fruit produced by the tree, which could mimic the effects of a portion when consumed.
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They could be uncomfortable with it, but from a practical perspective, if someone capable of dispelling an effect anchored to the tree is close enough to do it they'd likely just attack it.

On the scrolls end, I was thinking along the lines of the tree producing something closer to "normal" magic energy, which the old gods could then put into fruit with the pattern of a spell they know .
It's a bit of a reach fluff wise, but I was more looking for a direct use of concentrated magical juice than as a reagent. Scroll was probably a bad parallel to use. Fruit of X single use spell effect that the old gods are likely to know doesn't seem that weird. Potions are probably a better comparison (and ruleset) to work with for this, supposing we actually do it.

Edit: I've never really played with alchemy before, so I'm not sure about all of the fluff. Would we have to skip attack spells for the fruit, or could we actually grow grenades on trees with this? Potions use splash mechanics for ranged attacks right?
 
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BronzeTongue said:
Edit: I've never really played with alchemy before, so I'm not sure about all of the fluff. Would we have to skip attack spells for the fruit, or could we actually grow grenades on trees with this? Potions use splash mechanics for ranged attacks right?
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There are single-use items which behave as grenade-like weapons, though I can't recall any that are potions. We have plenty of ways to produce grenade weaoons, though, both magically and Alchemically. If we did use the fruit as a portion stand in, I think they should be limited to the normal potion effects.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Goldfish on Sep 22, 2019 at 3:53 PM, finished with 49 posts and 11 votes.
  • [X] Keep Ser Bryan alive for now, in fact it might be better if Lord Blount makes a hard decision starting with this traitor first.
    -[X] Approach Janna and try to convince her of the details of the scheme using your social skills and, admittedly, a vast power disparity. Then with the other hand offer salvation and hope. If she acts as a character witness you'll promise to make arrangements for her future fitting and commiserate to a noble-born scion of her status, with higher education or even magic open to her.
    -[X] Depending on how that conversation goes you'll try to convince Lord Petyr of this treachery together. You will give her at least a little help with Air of Nobility and Voice of the Dragon, and if fear is the issue, a boost of magical courage like with Samwell and Edric, if necessary.
    [X] Bottle ser Bryan, then use the greater ribbon of disguise to stumble out of the tavern, going for the outhouse if this Tavern uses one, in his appearance. If that's not possible, pretend to be going out looking for some "company" if it can be done subtly // we need to confuse the issue of his disappearance somehow.
    -[X] sneak into the castle and investigate the dreams of the current lord, widowed lady, and Janna.
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Adhoc vote count started by Crake on Sep 22, 2019 at 3:53 PM, finished with 50 posts and 11 votes.
  • [X] Keep Ser Bryan alive for now, in fact it might be better if Lord Blount makes a hard decision starting with this traitor first.
    -[X] Approach Janna and try to convince her of the details of the scheme using your social skills and, admittedly, a vast power disparity. Then with the other hand offer salvation and hope. If she acts as a character witness you'll promise to make arrangements for her future fitting and commiserate to a noble-born scion of her status, with higher education or even magic open to her.
    -[X] Depending on how that conversation goes you'll try to convince Lord Petyr of this treachery together. You will give her at least a little help with Air of Nobility and Voice of the Dragon, and if fear is the issue, a boost of magical courage like with Samwell and Edric, if necessary.
    [X] Bottle ser Bryan, then use the greater ribbon of disguise to stumble out of the tavern, going for the outhouse if this Tavern uses one, in his appearance. If that's not possible, pretend to be going out looking for some "company" if it can be done subtly // we need to confuse the issue of his disappearance somehow.
    -[X] sneak into the castle and investigate the dreams of the current lord, widowed lady, and Janna.
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Ehhhh, or too much like Tor and hindsight being what it is that being even more discomforting.
 
Apart from all the reports, we have yet to see a separate chapter for extraplanar rumors (with us actively taking part in the war now), and likely one wholly dedicated to Westeros too, now that we actively work Inquisition there...

And reactions of Westeros/Essos to our Truespeech leaflets, too :V

(Btw, with the part about Fey we voted to include in those, I'm all but sure that CoS will hate us now, as they likely take it as declaration of war via massive change of narrative)


And whoo boy, don't get me started on those shows we run over Mirrorvision.
We havent seen a peek at Scholarum one after all!

...For real tho', I'd love see the "Season Finale" episode of it.
So many awesome things could by used in it...

Tldr: Hisss, no Windwards needed!
 
Not quite sure if we included anything about Fey yet, just talked about it.
 
Crake said:
Not quite sure if we included anything about Fey yet, just talked about it.
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--[X] Create a serialized set of stories and fables, supported by visually expressive art.
---[X] They would tell about Fey, the kind we deem acceptable, about how to spot Devil/Demon/Daemon cultists, about the spheres and so on and so forth (the point is twisting the narrative of those supernatural creatures that are seriously affected by it, to more sensible and useful direction, while also giving general population a minimal understanding of basic concepts we want them to know).
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This is as straight as a "Fuck You!" goes for Fey, I was led to believe.
And I'm okay with that. Really.

Those who cannot accept the core tenets of "don't be an asshole" would have fought us either way.

And yes, I take the full responsibility for any consequences as the one who pushed the clause through.
Haven't thought about them at that point, but I'm okay with most now too.
 
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Crake said:
Probably another three at least.
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I think we would be better served building more Wyvern fighters - we are closing in on the time when we'll have to war it out with illithids, and while they aren't quite built for underwater combat in mind, they'll still be magnificent against somewhat slow-floating armies of theirs when they emerge.

And with some simple-ish modification, I think they'll work well even underwater, won't they..?

Not to mention, that Brass Ballsack can attack us at any moment, and these fighters are a natural counter...
Or, well, a natural stop-gap measure to buy time to get PCs on the scene.

Heralds are force multipliers for Legion, but we can't quite give them orders to "help Shaitan/Djinn" and expect anywhat as magnificent results as Wyverns get.

Abhishek M said:
Oooh nice. So we placed that order at the Fungus forge yet?
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Nope, not yet.
And on that note, I reserve the right for 26 Advanced Druid Lotus Leahi and 26-52 Verdant Wolves as guards for Heart Trees.
 
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Duesal said:
How many Heralds can we get this upcoming month?

[X] Crake
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Crake said:
Probably another three at least.
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Three at a minimum, though I would like to get more. We'll have to see what other pressing need a must be met.
Abhishek M said:
Oooh nice. So we placed that order at the Fungus forge yet? And we get enough mages with Alchemy for another factory or two?
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Not sure about the Forge order. That might be something for the first of the month.

I'm hoping for some good results from the Scholarium this month. I would like to open construction on as many new industrial Alchemy facilities as we have qualified project managers to run them.
 
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egoo said:
I think we would be better served building more Wyvern fighters - we are closing in on the time when we'll have to war it out with illithids, and while they aren't quite built for underwater combat in mind, they'll still be magnificent against somewhat slow-floating armies of theirs when they emerge.

And with some simple-ish modification, I think they'll work well even underwater, won't they..?

Not to mention, that Brass Ballsack can attack us at any moment, and these fighters are a natural counter...
Or, well, a natural stop-gap measure to buy time to get PCs on the scene.

Heralds are force multipliers for Legion, but we can't quite give them orders to "help Shaitan/Djinn" and expect anywhat as magnificent results as Wyverns get.


Nope, not yet.
And on that note, I reserve the right for 26 Advanced Druid Lotus Leahi and 26-52 Verdant Wolves as guards for Heart Trees.
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The Wyverns work just fine underwater.

We'll probably be able to build at least six more of them next month, too.
 
Goldfish said:
The Wyverns work just fine underwater.
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Work?
Yes, they do.
And "fly" far faster than most other things down there, I'm sure.

However, gravity manipulation helps little when they have all this water to push against.

They won't be able to get nearly as fast, nor maneuverable, as they are used to from Extraplanar conflicts, if they want the hulls to remain in one piece.

And yet, still better underwater force than Heralds, from what I'm getting.
 
egoo said:
Nope, not yet.
And on that note, I reserve the right for 26 Advanced Druid Lotus Leahi and 26-52 Verdant Wolves as guards for Heart Trees.
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Good call. I'd feel safer if we add a pair of treats to each of them too honestly. Druid creature or otherwise. Atleast for the Scholors Trees by the Scholorum as extra guards? Doubles as a mild defense boost for the provinces too honestly. Atleast for minor threats and a warning system for us.

Also we ever do the whole meld nature with the city thing to all the Provincial cities? Because if so I'd like to dump a gaggle of all Leshy types in each city and let them grow in number naturally over time. Might as well get some free numbers by seeding all cities with them and letting them multiply over a year or two. If not? Meh, we can get it after actual key infrastructure and defense upgrades for them anyway.
 
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Crake said:
Probably another three at least.
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Goldfish said:
Three at a minimum, though I would like to get more. We'll have to see what other pressing need a must be met.
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The more we can make the better. They're a major stabilizing factor with helping fledgling governors integrate their provinces into the Imperium.
egoo said:
Nope, not yet.
And on that note, I reserve the right for 26 Advanced Druid Lotus Leahi and 26-52 Verdant Wolves as guards for Heart Trees.
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Every single tree should have at minimum one Advanced Druid Creature Lotus Leshy as a guardian. Verdant Wolves are an equally nice touch.
 
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