I follow it. What is the issue with it? I have an idea as to what you are pissed about but go on...
How chapters 210+ plus have introduced a disgustingly massive power creep in a story where the supporting cast were already struggling to not be extras, and how Shiggy, a weak villain that got reduced to "filler bad guy" in terms of motivation and philosophy (I want to destroy everything, because lulz), is being made out to be the Final Boss and some sort of charismatic mastermind.

Overhaul had a point, Liberation Army had a hell of a point and truly fantastic potential. Both were used as mere stepstones for Shiggy, with the later being exclusively used for that.
The most potentially interesting antagonist got introduced and destroyed in a retarded way, with the League being somehow able to fight hundreds of trained quirk using soldiers at the same time, on their own.
You are a public figure Yrael, you were on TV, i think someone, bear with me, might notice that YOUR FUCKING WINGS ARE NO LONGER GOLD!.
Oh, how I've fucking missed you, das.
Perhaps we may tear the truth from the dying thoughts of their Elder Brain."
Nearby Gith adjust their seating as to hide their boners at the thought.
With Assay Spell Resistance, that's 30 or 32 for the purposes of overcoming SR
Mindblank stops ASR, need True Casting/Spell Enhancer.
 
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Alright everyone, here are the remaining options so far as MAs go for this vote:
[] Reconvene with your most trusted allies and subjects on the matter of Heaven's Fate - and how much of it should be known to general populace.
-[] Arrange a meeting with your Governors and/or Companions and/or Allies.
--[] Decide the exact list when the time comes.

--[] The state of Heaven and the rest of the Spheres was distorted in the system of education of your realm so far - and where Inquisitors shall be informed of the truth regardless, the current students and members of Scholarum, as well as any future ones, may be in need of being brought into the matter slowly/carefully, so as to not cause undue... problems the revelation may hold.
[] Communicate with Danelle. Relay to her, that Djinn of Armun Khellisk have been looking into creatures of Winter, and anything with such a connection may be helpful in learning how to treat the taint most of Winterborn carry these days... Like the connection we noticed her companion has.
-[] If decency of Djinn is not an argument in of itself, give our word that nothing untoward shall happen to her companion. This research going smoothly is in everyone's best interest.
-[] Keep in mind a possibility of offering her an alliance against Deep Ones and/or Tiamat, as well as Sending Stone (for use in critical situation).
[] Keep an eye out for Siduri's further report on Efreeti activity - especially so on the Efreeti Vizier's component-gathering convoy.
-[] Also, question the captives from the raid for information on Adamantine Mine - the amounts it produces, the location, the guards, how often it sends out convoys and what routes are usually taken, who works in the mine, if there are any particilar semi-secret mining methods they are aware of, etc etc.
[] Check with Mereth about how Azirah, the first Erynie you resurrected, is doing - she seemed seriously out of herself after the fact.
[] Meet with Lady Uraka in Braavos early in the month to discuss transferring half of your newly emitted coinage and the Silk Note and Glass Scepter reserve into Imperial Vaults.
-[] Then discuss upgrading the Iron Bank's defenses extensively, the construction of a more appropriately sized and defensible branch in Sorcerer's Deep in preparation for eventual transfer of these accounts, and the assignment of an Imperial Herald to guard the Deep Vaults in the interim.
I'd say go talk to Danelle, but...
well, the discussion of the last few pages kinda implies it's not the best time OOC.
 
[X] Before departing, inquire about the possible purchase of any psionic items the Githzerai might have available for sell, whether or not such items can be commissioned, and if there are any psionic crafters available for hire.
-[X] Check with Mereth about how Azirah, the first Erynie you resurrected, is doing - she seemed seriously out of herself after the fact.
-[X] Unless speaking with Azirah ends up being more involved than we are expecting (i.e. more than one update), move on from that and arrange a meeting with the Windward Society. It's time we told them of the true fate of their friend Tor.
--[X] As the reactions are likely to be negative, you are going into this already expecting some questions and you have answers, and you will attempt to be as forthright about what drove your actions as possible. We've dealt with them fairly and honestly, and could have withheld this with only a literal God being capable of revealing the truth out of petty spite. They could at least stand to listen.
--[X] Tor was a man who lusted after true magical power, and this was happening during a time when we little understood magic ourselves, so any means to acquire it seemed proportionate to the degree of desperation he must have felt in the twilight of his life.
---[X] Because of this he found a way to awaken to magic--our blood. That was a deal fairly wrought, but we didn't quite understand at the time that in order to continue making use of his abilities he would need more blood of magic users close at hand, and rather than bargain for it, he enslaved others in the heart of the Secret City and under its rulers' noses. He hadn't made any indications to change his manner of operating, though in hindsight it might have been possible to convince him.
---[X] Full disclosure, while we hold a hatred for slavery, we chose to confront him because he made us complicit in something contemptible. But even then, the Windward Society, Tor included, were family friends. They gave us a warm home when we had just picked ourselves off of the streets, and the rush of imminent voluntary exile made us act with perhaps unseemly haste.
--[X] However, that's not where the story ends. Unwarded by divination then, Tor learned we were coming and fled Braavos ahead of us. Given his later depredations, I can only assume he was unwilling to give up his new sources of power, those kidnapped unfortunates with enough magic in their blood to give them the spark of sorcery, and knew we would have not taken no for an answer.
---[X] He later turned up in Pentos where we happened upon him by chance and where he met his end. His first end.
----[X] Power, wealth and influence did not change Tor for the better, all three of which he had for quite awhile. For each of our successes, he grew more paranoid and finally mad, never having ceased his enslaving of mages, rather he grew more sophisticated at it, binding men wholly and completely to servitude, and eventually disposal in his own experiments. Have you, perchance, met Sarah of Pentos, who now teaches at the Scholarium? She was once enslaved by Tor, serving not only as a source of blood to fuel his powers, but forced to use her magic to aid him in his madness.
-----[X] Moreover he cut deals with Dark Gods and it was only a matter of time until he was used as a pawn in some scheme against us given his ally at the time was the mortal enemy of one of our allies, Yss.
--[X] Finally, the third time we dealt with Tor was when his 'patron' brought him back to kill the last of Yss' chosen people. We can't claim Tor's murderous attempts on the lives of those close to us as much of a reasoning for ensuring his resurrection would never be possible again, but we'd be lying if we claimed we weren't relieved by it.
--[X] "I did not want the last memory you possessed of Tor to be of betrayal and madness. The last embers of guilt I felt at killing a man who gifted my sister nameday presents and told me stories by the fire have faded, but that doesn't excuse holding back when forging oaths with those close to him."
---[X] Before anyone can cut in, at this point succinctly say, "I'll release you from your oaths should you feel scorned by this revelation. I owe you all that much. And I would greatly value your continued, and willing, service. But this was one niggling doubt in the back of my mind I could not allow to linger. I spared other slavers, so why not Tor?"
---[X] "The benefit of hindsight makes liars and cheats of us all, so I won't say that alone was an excuse, but the man did pick his path, just as I have."

[X] Xor Level Up
-[X] Class: +1 Beholder of Wonder
-[X] Feat:
--[X] Retrain: Agile Tyrant >>>
Lingering Song
-[X] Skills (8 points): +1 Knowledge(Arcana), +1 Knowledge(The Planes), +1 Perform(Singing), +1 Spellcraft, +2 Spot, +2 Sense Motive
-[X] New Spells:
--[X] 7th Levels: Power Word Blind, Stun Ray
 
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I really want to work on subverting Dannelle though. Or at least on making her directly useful to us.
Still seems a bit too soon to me. We might want to let her marinate for a while longer, maybe even until the first crop of missionaries sent by she and Lucan have had a chance to experience SD and the Imperium long enough to report back to their superiors.
 
How chapters 210+ plus have introduced a disgustingly massive power creep in a story where the supporting cast were already struggling to not be extras, and how Shiggy, a weak villain that got reduced to "filler bad guy" in terms of motivation and philosophy (I want to destroy everything, because lulz), is being made out to be the Final Boss and some sort of charismatic mastermind.

Overhaul had a point, Liberation Army had a hell of a point and truly fantastic potential. Both were used as mere stepstones for Shiggy, with the later being exclusively used for that.
The most potentially interesting antagonist got introduced and destroyed in a retarded way, with the League being somehow able to fight hundreds of trained quirk using soldiers at the same time, on their own.

Yeah that. Wow I was just thinking you were complaining about the power creep but those are a thing also. I mean I think Shigaraki was always meant to be the final boss. I mean his journey was meant to parallel Midoriya's journey. But still the execution was...flawed. Now I wanted Overhaul's face to get punched in from the beginning so I was cool with him getting utterly destroyed. Now the bullshit with Destro's army and them beating that faction is a chock of nonsense. In that we agree with. For one they could have played a more secret war with them and slowly built themselves up as a rival faction before wiping our Destro...or do a three way battle between the three factions. As for Shigaraki's philosophy I dont know if it is Nihilism or just insanity(probably the latter because of reasons.) But he needs some seasoning before he gets to be somewhat decent as a villain.
 
@Duesal @Crake For a moment there, I thought it was actually going to happen.

Luo-Luo will become a Divinity and build a bunker as to stop the world from fucking with her trying to fuck Rain.

And Sarnai is going to shank a certain Abbot for stopping her Grandkids from being made.
 
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[X] Goldfish
Whtever, really.
The reasoning I had behind talking to Danelle was squarely of seinding off her companion to Djinn - since they need willing test subjects to deal with Winter's corruption, and even as away as he's from Winter by this point, he wouldn't have been useless.

I'm not really of mind to diplomance her yet.
We had to see what the fuck the Lucan's preachers been doing, or dug up at us yet.
Would be a mistake to deal with her before we know general position of Faithful, we may just waste our time in the end.
 
If she want to be Queen and pass the level gap, she will be Queen of something, we don't forbid our citizens from leaving our realm, so if Margaery really want to be Queen, she can level up to something like level 15, then leave our employ, and carve out a Queendom somewhere in the Multiverse, that's not already ruled by us or our allies, that's fully legal to do, and we aren't the kind of Tyrant to prevent her from doing it.

We are an Emperor, Kings and Queens both will be counted as subordinates in the fullness of time.

While she may gather enough power to carve herself a Queendom she needs to travel far and do it right.

Because if a mortal from the plane and kingdom of our birth is out there being a cruel and/or terrible ruler we aren't going to let them last very long, we'll conquer and absorb them to deny the stain of association and bring their citizens into a deserving more respectful Empire.

For something like this most would me mid-range PCs level 8-10 with about a 10% of them being true elites level 11-15 I'd say

Good night guys see you tomorrow with more from Yi Ti and whatever you vote to do next.

I've been very vocal about my hesitancy in relation to the Gith, just wanted to let you know I have been pleasantly surprised and I'm in the trust but verify mindset for them now.
 
@Duesal @Crake For a moment there, I thought it was actually going to happen.

Luo-Luo will become a Divinity and build a bunker as to stop the world from fucking with her trying to fuck Rain.

And Sarnai is going to shank a certain Abbot for stopping her Grandkids from being made.
I know Rain certainly wants it to happen now. He's really warmed to poor Luo-Luo over the last few dozen chapters.
 
I'm waiting to get an Aboleth or Ulitharid for this. :)

I'm also very much looking forward to both but the Aboleth in particular, even moreso than an Elder Brain in its own way.

That sweet sweet ancestral memory.

I really do love this spell so much, I think it is perhaps my favourite find even only having been used once and now it's available to Viserys outside of ultra rare scrolls.

We are entering a golden age of knowledge my friends.
 
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[X] Check with Mereth about how Azirah, the first Erynie you resurrected, is doing - she seemed seriously out of herself after the fact.

[X] Xor Level Up
-[X] Class: +1 Beholder of Wonder
-[X] Feat:
--[X] Retrain: Agile Tyrant >>>
Lingering Song
-[X] Skills (8 points): +1 Knowledge(Arcana), +1 Knowledge(The Planes), +1 Perform(Singing), +1 Spellcraft, +2 Spot, +2 Sense Motive
-[X] New Spells:
--[X] 7th Levels: Power Word Blind, Stun Ray

While this is worth doing it's probably not going to balloon into a full update, and if it does we can resolve it with a full vote.

Add on sitting down with the Windward crew finally for a serious discussion.
 
@Duesal @Crake For a moment there, I thought it was actually going to happen.

Luo-Luo will become a Divinity and build a bunker as to stop the world from fucking with her trying to fuck Rain.

And Sarnai is going to shank a certain Abbot for stopping her Grandkids from being made.

Luo Luo: Voted most likely Imperial Servant to die a virgin this year!

Rain: Voted man most likely to survive the Heat Death of the universe out of sheer spite.
 
I know Rain certainly wants it to happen now. He's really warmed to poor Luo-Luo over the last few dozen chapters.
He's always wanted it, but I think the most generous read on why he's not done it is that he doesn't want to start his relationship with her on pure carnal pleasure/lust.
Luo Luo: Voted most likely Imperial Servant to die a virgin this year!

Rain: Voted man most likely to survive the Heat Death of the universe out of sheer spite.
Abbot: Voted most likely eunuch to mysteriously fall down some stairs into fifty spear tips.
 
@Goldfish

-[ ] As the reactions are likely to be negative, you are going into this already expecting some questions and you have answers, and you will attempt to be as forthright about what drove your actions as possible. We've dealt with them fairly and honestly, and could have withheld this with only a literal God being capable of revealing the truth out of petty spite. They could at least stand to listen.
-[ ] Tor was a man who lusted after true magical power, and this was happening during a time when we little understood magic ourselves, so any means to acquire it seemed proportionate to the degree of desperation he must have felt in the twilight of his life.
--[ ] Because of this he found a way to awaken to magic--our blood. That was a deal fairly wrought, but we didn't quite understand at the time that in order to continue making use of his abilities he would need more blood of magic users close at hand, and rather than bargain for it, he enslaved others in the heart of the Secret City and under its rulers' noses. He hadn't made any indications to change his manner of operating, though in hindsight it might have been possible to convince him.
--[ ] Full disclosure, while we hold a hatred for slavery, we first made an attempt on his life because he made us complicit in something contemptible. But even then, the Windward Society, even Tor, were family friends, they gave us a warm home when we had just picked ourselves off of the streets, and the rush of imminent voluntary exile made us act with perhaps unseemly haste.
-[ ] However, that's not where the story ends. Unwarded by divination then, Tor figured out he was going to be attacked and fled Braavos ahead of us.
--[ ] He later turned up in Pentos where we happened upon him by chance and where he met his end. His first end.
---[ ] Power, wealth and influence did not change Tor for the better, all three of which he had for quite awhile. For each of our successes, he grew more paranoid and finally mad, never having ceased his enslaving of mages, rather he grew more sophisticated at it, binding men wholly and completely to servitude, and eventually disposal in his own experiments.
----[ ] Moreover he cut deals with Dark Gods and it was only a matter of time until he was used as a pawn in some scheme against us given his ally at the time was the mortal enemy of one of our allies, Yss.
-[ ] Finally, the third time we dealt with Tor was when his 'patron' brought him back to kill the last of Yss' chosen people. We can't claim Tor's murderous attempts on the lives of those close to us as much of a reasoning for ensuring his resurrection would never be possible again, but we'd be lying if we claimed we weren't relieved by it.
-[ ] "I did not want the last memory you possessed of Tor to be of betrayal and madness. The last embers of guilt I felt at killing a man who gifted my sister nameday presents and told me stories by the fire have faded, but that doesn't excuse holding back when forging oaths with those close to him."
--[ ] Before anyone can cut in, at this point succinctly say, "I'll release you from your oaths should you feel scorned by this revelation. I owe you all that much. And I would greatly value your continued, and willing, service. But this was one niggling doubt in the back of my mind I could not allow to linger. I spared other slavers, so why not Tor?"
--[] "The benefit of hindsight makes liars and cheats of us all, so I won't say that alone was an excuse, but the man did pick his path, just as I have."
 
@Goldfish

-[ ] As the reactions are likely to be negative, you are going into this already expecting some questions and you have answers, and you will attempt to be as forthright about what drove your actions as possible. We've dealt with them fairly and honestly, and could have withheld this with only a literal God being capable of revealing the truth out of petty spite. They could at least stand to listen.
-[ ] Tor was a man who lusted after true magical power, and this was happening during a time when we little understood magic ourselves, so any means to acquire it seemed proportionate to the degree of desperation he must have felt in the twilight of his life.
--[ ] Because of this he found a way to awaken to magic--our blood. That was a deal fairly wrought, but we didn't quite understand at the time that in order to continue making use of his abilities he would need more blood of magic users close at hand, and rather than bargain for it, he enslaved others in the heart of the Secret City and under its rulers' noses. He hadn't made any indications to change his manner of operating, though in hindsight it might have been possible to convince him.
--[ ] Full disclosure, while we hold a hatred for slavery, we first made an attempt on his life because he made us complicit in something contemptible. But even then, the Windward Society, even Tor, were family friends, they gave us a warm home when we had just picked ourselves off of the streets, and the rush of imminent voluntary exile made us act with perhaps unseemly haste.
-[ ] However, that's not where the story ends. Unwarded by divination then, Tor figured out he was going to be attacked and fled Braavos ahead of us.
--[ ] He later turned up in Pentos where we happened upon him by chance and where he met his end. His first end.
---[ ] Power, wealth and influence did not change Tor for the better, all three of which he had for quite awhile. For each of our successes, he grew more paranoid and finally mad, never having ceased his enslaving of mages, rather he grew more sophisticated at it, binding men wholly and completely to servitude, and eventually disposal in his own experiments.
----[ ] Moreover he cut deals with Dark Gods and it was only a matter of time until he was used as a pawn in some scheme against us given his ally at the time was the mortal enemy of one of our allies, Yss.
-[ ] Finally, the third time we dealt with Tor was when his 'patron' brought him back to kill the last of Yss' chosen people. We can't claim Tor's murderous attempts on the lives of those close to us as much of a reasoning for ensuring his resurrection would never be possible again, but we'd be lying if we claimed we weren't relieved by it.
-[ ] "I did not want the last memory you possessed of Tor to be of betrayal and madness. The last embers of guilt I felt at killing a man who gifted my sister nameday presents and told me stories by the fire have faded, but that doesn't excuse holding back when forging oaths with those close to him."
--[ ] Before anyone can cut in, at this point succinctly say, "I'll release you from your oaths should you feel scorned by this revelation. I owe you all that much. And I would greatly value your continued, and willing, service. But this was one niggling doubt in the back of my mind I could not allow to linger. I spared other slavers, so why not Tor?"
--[] "The benefit of hindsight makes liars and cheats of us all, so I won't say that alone was an excuse, but the man did pick his path, just as I have."
Woah...That's good stuff. Was expecting us to have to explain in a follow-up vote, but now works, too. Thanks, dude.

Added to my plan.
 
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