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*remembers some of the bullshit in the weeboo fighting magics book*
And depending on his Maneuvers/day said stabbing range might be extra planar and/or conceptual
A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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*remembers some of the bullshit in the weeboo fighting magics book*
And depending on his Maneuvers/day said stabbing range might be extra planar and/or conceptual
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I think the disguises were dropped when we started negotiating, though Ser Richard chose to keep his magic items hidden.
I'm equally interested in the history there.
egoo
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@Duesal, you asked to add following to next month's MAs:
> Is it to be a Research Action? Why in MAs , then?
> Is it basically getting Viserys' IC-thoughts on "can I make a weapon outta this?"? Why not ask DP now-ish, then?
> Is it just keeping track of an idea via list of MAs? Kinda a wrong place, but sure, that's 1/3 I get.
Tldr: write-up an RA and/or explain what ya want outta it.
G'night.
but on second look through it, I have no fucking idea what you mean, or want out if it.
> Is it to be a Research Action? Why in MAs , then?
> Is it basically getting Viserys' IC-thoughts on "can I make a weapon outta this?"? Why not ask DP now-ish, then?
> Is it just keeping track of an idea via list of MAs? Kinda a wrong place, but sure, that's 1/3 I get.
Tldr: write-up an RA and/or explain what ya want outta it.
G'night.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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I think that in this case it was the full foreknowledge that Viserys is in the room, and he's being shadowed by "some knight". Viserys isn't tailed by any Kingsguard, pretty much ever, just one champion that fits the general description of "some knight".
And that man is Richard "Kills You With A Glare" Lonmouth. The Knight of Skulls and Kisses. The man who can snap an assassin devil like a twig reacting on the dime like this kind of thing happens every day of the week, because as far as people know it just does happen every day in the Life of Lonmouth.
TL;DR Richard is Planetos' Chuck Norris.
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The Blue Ice from the Wall, specifically. We have the ability to scrape some of it off of there.
What makes it different from the Blue Ice of a Frost Wyrm's bones? How is it being made? Etc.
That's something that needs to be studied, and it's something that we don't need to study. We can foist this onto the Djinn.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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Oooh. That's a good name for a non-fictional fictional novel. "The Life of Lonmouth". An unabridged history of the rise of House Targaryen, their adventures and struggles, from the perspective of the laconic Knight of Skulls and Kisses, completely uncensored and unexaggerated.
It sells thousands of copies, but everyone either believes it is somewhat exaggerated, or for the people who have actually met Richard, believes he's underselling most of it to help with suspension of disbelief.
Like dive bombing a mutant dragon surrounded by a field of "Anti-Magic" which kills spells around a person dead, stabbing the motherfucker in mid-air and wrestling the beast to the ground, before carving out its heart with your sword while your King distracts it--and only because you were going for your trusty boot knife and planning on poking the thing's eyes out but suddenly killing it got a whole lot more pressing because it had the sheer gall to maul your liege.
Edit: Or carving a beast which snacks on literal heroes for breakfast, lunch and dinner into a thousand thousand pieces with a combo move involving your sword striking so fast that it split the air itself.
It sells thousands of copies, but everyone either believes it is somewhat exaggerated, or for the people who have actually met Richard, believes he's underselling most of it to help with suspension of disbelief.
Like dive bombing a mutant dragon surrounded by a field of "Anti-Magic" which kills spells around a person dead, stabbing the motherfucker in mid-air and wrestling the beast to the ground, before carving out its heart with your sword while your King distracts it--and only because you were going for your trusty boot knife and planning on poking the thing's eyes out but suddenly killing it got a whole lot more pressing because it had the sheer gall to maul your liege.
Edit: Or carving a beast which snacks on literal heroes for breakfast, lunch and dinner into a thousand thousand pieces with a combo move involving your sword striking so fast that it split the air itself.
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Kind of ironic really, the Westerosi fear far more what they can understand than the tales of grumpkins and snarks that turn out to be true. Also Viserys oozes charisma while Richard oozes General Stormlander Annoyed and one is more scary than the other.
We could always have some fun with Telekinesis from time to time, throwing Oberyn into the sea that one time was fun
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throwing Oberyn into the sea that one time was fun
One time?
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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If Oberyn is ever being an ass, we could deliciously threaten to give him another bath out in the nearest bay again. And mean it unironically. Which is hilarious for onlookers to think about just what the hell Viserys and Oberyn do in their free time. :lol
Goldfish
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How's this? Updated section in yellow.
[X] Plan Usurper Bad, Dragon Good
-[X] "My lady, make no mistake, we did not travel to Haystack Hall to buy your loyalty with magic trinkets or bottled miracles."
--[X] "There are, of course, a number of advantages freely available to the citizens of my realm, from something so basic and mundane as free education for any willing to learn, to the more fantastical, such as the healing provided, again free of charge, to any who is sick or injured."
---[X] "Why, a significant number of citizens now living in Sorcerer's Deep, thousands of them in fact, were sent from Westeros by agents of the Crown. They came in ships barely worthy of the name, some dangerously overloaded, most half-starved and on the edge of dehydration. Those unfortunates were sent not only to die, but to spread disease and suffering in their wake. Instead, they were made well, healed of the sicknesses which plagued them, then welcomed into the Imperium."
----[X] "Robert Baratheon sent a fleet to destroy my city before I ever turned my eyes to retaking the Iron Throne. When that one did not succeed, he sent another, a plague fleet intended to bring us low where force of arms failed. That is the man you profess loyalty to, in your father's name, despite swearing no oaths of your own."
-----[X] "There are advantages beyond the simple satisfaction of knowing you support a worthy king, rather than a lout of an Usurper, my lady. One of the most basic privileges of an Imperial citizen, of which thousands of Westeros' poorest were able to benefit from through the Usurper's half-hearted malice, would have seen your father's health restored in an instant. This is no mere tale, simply the day to day truth of my realm, and one I hope to bring to Westeros when the time is right. Would you deny such to your people, to your friends and family?"
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Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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The tradition is not really on the up-swing. Yi Ti has such a long history that there are stories of sects with giant ass temples with hundreds of adepts training and contemplating existence in pursuit of enlightenment, martial schools who are trying to be the best who no-one ever was with rivalries flaring so hot that the fighting taking place makes daily life around the country seem like a martial arts movie, and then there are periods of time where the nearest monk is hundreds of miles in deep trackless wilderness, is a hermit, and only rarely visits civilization to pick up some groceries and necessities and might take on an apprentice once in a blue moon.
Ting's master was the latter. Is the latter--Ting's not exactly sure how old his mentor was, but he's pretty goddamn sure that the sect he was from was big in its heyday, that being an era where there was a different Color emperor on the Golden Throne of Yin. Mind you, the capital of the Golden Empire of Yi Ti changes periodically, and the dynasty before the Azure one was not based out of Yin. Yeah. That old.
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Well, now I feel increasingly lucky to have Ting at all.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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Well you could always go looking for a man who has probably been goosing and outwitting the supernatural for longer than Melisandre, when he wasn't meditating through the entirety of a magical nadir to keep his cultivation-ass well-preserved body from decaying by consuming vast quantities of rare herbs and tinctures. He probably knows where the rest of his sect is, whether that means whoever he's trained or the ruins of their original temple. To be honest Ting hasn't given it much thought, having your reputation destroyed and slandered and bringing shame upon his extended family tends to do that.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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- USA
[X] Plan Usurper Bad, Dragon Good
-[X] "My lady, make no mistake, we did not travel to Haystack Hall to buy your loyalty with magic trinkets or bottled miracles."
--[X] "There are, of course, a number of advantages freely available to the citizens of my realm, from something so basic and mundane as free education for any willing to learn, to the more fantastical, such as the healing provided, again free of charge, to any who is sick or injured."
---[X] "Why, a significant number of citizens now living in Sorcerer's Deep, thousands of them in fact, were sent from Westeros by agents of the Crown. They came in ships barely worthy of the name, some dangerously overloaded, most half-starved and on the edge of dehydration. Those unfortunates were sent not only to die, but to spread disease and suffering in their wake. Instead, they were made well, healed of the sicknesses which plagued them, then welcomed into the Imperium."
----[X] "Robert Baratheon sent a fleet to destroy my city before I ever turned my eyes to retaking the Iron Throne. When that one did not succeed, he sent another, a plague fleet intended to bring us low where force of arms failed. That is the man you profess loyalty to, in your father's name, despite swearing no oaths of your own."
-----[X] "There are advantages beyond the simple satisfaction of knowing you support a worthy king, rather than a lout of an Usurper, my lady. One of the most basic privileges of an Imperial citizen, of which thousands of Westeros' poorest were able to benefit from through the Usurper's half-hearted malice, would have seen your father's health restored in an instant. This is no mere tale, simply the day to day truth of my realm, and one I hope to bring to Westeros when the time is right. Would you deny such to your people, to your friends and family?"
It's not terrible. Perhaps more underhanded than trying to buy her loyalty with the fruits of magic--if she was willing to put a price on it all, then rumors of our wealth are probably so greatly exaggerated that they are, in her mind, probably at least equal if not somewhat superior to Tywin Lannister's, a man who could probably buy loyalty out of pocket if he wasn't worried about crashing the economy because releasing too much of your reserves of gold bullion can have devastating effects. And we make him look platinum poor in comparison in reality, in assets alone, nevermind liquid currency which we have backed by strong extraplanar monetary reserves.
-[X] "My lady, make no mistake, we did not travel to Haystack Hall to buy your loyalty with magic trinkets or bottled miracles."
--[X] "There are, of course, a number of advantages freely available to the citizens of my realm, from something so basic and mundane as free education for any willing to learn, to the more fantastical, such as the healing provided, again free of charge, to any who is sick or injured."
---[X] "Why, a significant number of citizens now living in Sorcerer's Deep, thousands of them in fact, were sent from Westeros by agents of the Crown. They came in ships barely worthy of the name, some dangerously overloaded, most half-starved and on the edge of dehydration. Those unfortunates were sent not only to die, but to spread disease and suffering in their wake. Instead, they were made well, healed of the sicknesses which plagued them, then welcomed into the Imperium."
----[X] "Robert Baratheon sent a fleet to destroy my city before I ever turned my eyes to retaking the Iron Throne. When that one did not succeed, he sent another, a plague fleet intended to bring us low where force of arms failed. That is the man you profess loyalty to, in your father's name, despite swearing no oaths of your own."
-----[X] "There are advantages beyond the simple satisfaction of knowing you support a worthy king, rather than a lout of an Usurper, my lady. One of the most basic privileges of an Imperial citizen, of which thousands of Westeros' poorest were able to benefit from through the Usurper's half-hearted malice, would have seen your father's health restored in an instant. This is no mere tale, simply the day to day truth of my realm, and one I hope to bring to Westeros when the time is right. Would you deny such to your people, to your friends and family?"
It's not terrible. Perhaps more underhanded than trying to buy her loyalty with the fruits of magic--if she was willing to put a price on it all, then rumors of our wealth are probably so greatly exaggerated that they are, in her mind, probably at least equal if not somewhat superior to Tywin Lannister's, a man who could probably buy loyalty out of pocket if he wasn't worried about crashing the economy because releasing too much of your reserves of gold bullion can have devastating effects. And we make him look platinum poor in comparison in reality, in assets alone, nevermind liquid currency which we have backed by strong extraplanar monetary reserves.
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I have an idea, but I can't write a vote because I need to sleep:
Appeal to her perceived vulnerability about being a woman, and about pre-existing westerosi ideal. We aim to change that. Women have power in our Empire, she wouldn't feel vulnerable because of that. She would only have to marry if she wants to, there won't be any need for a male husband for her.
She wants security for her family, so we don't get hr involved in the rebellion at all. We just want this whole ordeal to be as bloodless as possible. We only need her to not spport the other side. That's enough for us to win in the long term.
And, if she feels the need to talk to us, hand her a Golden Dragon. A plain one. Tell her to spend it if she wants to talk with us. She doesn't know crap about magic, but we would be able to simply divine when it will be spent, and that is all we need to know to talk to her again.
Goldfish
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- Argentina
Of course. They are not incompatible, but I want more real arguments for her than we are better that drunk. That is obvious.
Now, off to sleep. See you tomorrow guys
[X] Plan Usurper Bad, Dragon Good
-[X] "My lady, make no mistake, we did not travel to Haystack Hall to buy your loyalty with magic trinkets or bottled miracles."
--[X] "There are, of course, a number of advantages freely available to the citizens of my realm, from something so basic and mundane as free education for any willing to learn, to the more fantastical, such as the healing provided, again free of charge, to any who is sick or injured."
---[X] "Why, a significant number of citizens now living in Sorcerer's Deep, thousands of them in fact, were sent from Westeros by agents of the Crown. They came in ships barely worthy of the name, some dangerously overloaded, most half-starved and on the edge of dehydration. Those unfortunates were sent not only to die, but to spread disease and suffering in their wake. Instead, they were made well, healed of the sicknesses which plagued them, then welcomed into the Imperium."
----[X] "Robert Baratheon sent a fleet to destroy my city before I ever turned my eyes to retaking the Iron Throne. When that one did not succeed, he sent another, a plague fleet intended to bring us low where force of arms failed. That is the man you profess loyalty to, in your father's name, despite swearing no oaths of your own."
-----[X] "There are advantages beyond the simple satisfaction of knowing you support a worthy king, rather than a lout of an Usurper, my lady. One of the most basic privileges of an Imperial citizen, of which thousands of Westeros' poorest were able to benefit from through the Usurper's half-hearted malice, would have seen your father's health restored in an instant. This is no mere tale, simply the day to day truth of my realm, and one I hope to bring to Westeros when the time is right. Would you deny such to your people, to your friends and family?"
-[X] "My lady, make no mistake, we did not travel to Haystack Hall to buy your loyalty with magic trinkets or bottled miracles."
--[X] "There are, of course, a number of advantages freely available to the citizens of my realm, from something so basic and mundane as free education for any willing to learn, to the more fantastical, such as the healing provided, again free of charge, to any who is sick or injured."
---[X] "Why, a significant number of citizens now living in Sorcerer's Deep, thousands of them in fact, were sent from Westeros by agents of the Crown. They came in ships barely worthy of the name, some dangerously overloaded, most half-starved and on the edge of dehydration. Those unfortunates were sent not only to die, but to spread disease and suffering in their wake. Instead, they were made well, healed of the sicknesses which plagued them, then welcomed into the Imperium."
----[X] "Robert Baratheon sent a fleet to destroy my city before I ever turned my eyes to retaking the Iron Throne. When that one did not succeed, he sent another, a plague fleet intended to bring us low where force of arms failed. That is the man you profess loyalty to, in your father's name, despite swearing no oaths of your own."
-----[X] "There are advantages beyond the simple satisfaction of knowing you support a worthy king, rather than a lout of an Usurper, my lady. One of the most basic privileges of an Imperial citizen, of which thousands of Westeros' poorest were able to benefit from through the Usurper's half-hearted malice, would have seen your father's health restored in an instant. This is no mere tale, simply the day to day truth of my realm, and one I hope to bring to Westeros when the time is right. Would you deny such to your people, to your friends and family?"
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[X] Crake
I would keep the 'turn into a woman' part, as clincher. Issue is, Viserys talks a good talk, but she has not seen magic. She cannot envision such and hence, some minor uses in front of her could be nice.
If not turning into a woman, perhaps something more innocuous like water conjuration or the classic 'make a deep wound and heal it on the spot'.
I would keep the 'turn into a woman' part, as clincher. Issue is, Viserys talks a good talk, but she has not seen magic. She cannot envision such and hence, some minor uses in front of her could be nice.
If not turning into a woman, perhaps something more innocuous like water conjuration or the classic 'make a deep wound and heal it on the spot'.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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The thing is, rationally, in terms of realpolitik, there is every reason whatsoever to support Viserys' claim against Tywin and Robert. And in terms of familial honor, one could contend that her father broke the most cardinal rule in supporting the rebels against Mad Aerys, one that could have been excused if they hadn't supported a clear usurpation and forever enshrined the idea that if one Great House could seat their ass on the Iron Throne, any Great House could. Half the point of keeping the dragons around and competing for influence is to have safeties on in case things get majorly fucked and a civil war happens causing all sides to spend all their resources and troops or just plain lose half of their heirs and political strongmen. You can always support a regency for a child and use it to favor your House and allies.
And more personally, Viserys is the magic man with a plan and instituting legal reforms that might favor you, and any succession plans she sets up for her House won't see much reliable backing by the Baratheons or Lannisters since they don't gain anything from it, whereas in contrast Viserys can trivially enforce whatever arrangements she wishes because no one with even a thimble-full of sanity would gainsay a Motherfucking Dread Sorcerer Dragon King.
She has no reason to support the Usurper Robert Baratheon or the hubris of Tywin Lannister, and everything to gain from reconfirming the rightful ruler of Westeros as her liege proper.
And more personally, Viserys is the magic man with a plan and instituting legal reforms that might favor you, and any succession plans she sets up for her House won't see much reliable backing by the Baratheons or Lannisters since they don't gain anything from it, whereas in contrast Viserys can trivially enforce whatever arrangements she wishes because no one with even a thimble-full of sanity would gainsay a Motherfucking Dread Sorcerer Dragon King.
She has no reason to support the Usurper Robert Baratheon or the hubris of Tywin Lannister, and everything to gain from reconfirming the rightful ruler of Westeros as her liege proper.