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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Takesis said:
Alas Shula, canon is not ready for your fine cuisine. But you do agree DP, that a shop playing with poison and amulets against it can exist?

Also about the update, Pride Month was just over. But I suppose it's just a matter of time we meet women who are more than just friends, I guess. I'm with Dany!
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I had zero problem with the restaurant part of it, weirdos gonna weird.

But we aren't going to hire him for super sensitive tasks and he really had no opportunity to practice his craft before we arrived in any case.

My head canon is that all the non-taxidermy stuff is still canon.

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[X] Artemis1992
 
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Edits done, Lady Carolei is not well disposed to you guys, not only because of her nephew's death, but the manner of that death at the hands of those she considers nothing more than brigands.

Thanks for bringing it up so we could handle it efficiently @LonelyWolf999
 
One Autumn Leaf said:
If someone shows up invisible to Arcane Eye but visible to the human eye they are under Mindblank. Essentially that is the crux of it. So have Inquisition members go around with an Arcane Eye partner (someone casting arcane eye) and literally use the protection against divination against them. They have Mindblank or they are suspicious enough to be looked into.
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*looks spell up*
Ah, that's 4th level.
And that would be the result for any Divination-like spell, too.
I don't think we can make enough constructs with this ability to cover everything throughly enough- too costly to make even as one-off item, let alone constant, and/or en-mass - and without that, I don't think there is even a point to start.
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egoo said:
*looks spell up*
Ah, that's 4th level.
And that would be the result for any Divination-like spell, too.
I don't think we can make enough constructs with this ability to cover everything throughly enough- too costly to make even as one-off item, let alone constant, and/or en-mass - and without that, I don't think there is even a point to start.
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See Beyond is 3rd level though and any Divination spell has the same overlap, like Dungeonsight revealing Gargoyles we'll see how low we can get it.

Also holy crap See Beyond is a good spell, 24 hour duration?

Very clever @One Autumn Leaf
 
[X] When we meet with Shyra, make it clear that we have no issue with who her lover may be, nor do we care whether they are male or female.
-[X] If it would help her, we can provide a Greater Ribbon of Disguise which Elys Penrose can use to play the role of a male suitor until the political landscape is more conducive to her somewhat unorthodox lifestyle. If she ever wishes it to become common knowledge, that is. We can also help establish an identity for Elys, perhaps as a traveling Essosi scholar or merchant looking to settle down?
-[X] As for Shyra's mother, it might simply be best if she remains ignorant of our association for now.
 
egoo said:
*looks spell up*
Ah, that's 4th level.
And that would be the result for any Divination-like spell, too.
I don't think we can make enough constructs with this ability to cover everything throughly enough- too costly to make even as one-off item, let alone cpnstant - and without that, I don't think there is even a point to start.
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Ritual casting exists. Develop a ritual for it and now low level casters can cast it also. In all honesty the way I was originally thinking about was to use a basic familiar look at the people and have arcane eye ritual casted. Both seeing the crowd and look for anyone both visible (by normal eyes) and invisible (by arcane eye).
 
If y'all are looking for good spells to detect people affected by Mind Blank, Healer's Vision is perfect.

Healer's Vision – Spell – D&D Tools

It's a useful 1st Divination spell that doesn't allow a saving throw and always functions against eligible targets. It would only cost 400 IM to make an item which provides the effect constantly.
 
Goldfish said:
If y'all are looking for good spells to detect people affected by Mind Blank, Healer's Vision is perfect.

Healer's Vision – Spell – D&D Tools

It's a useful 1st Divination spell that doesn't allow a saving throw and always functions against eligible targets. It would only cost 400 IM to make an item which provides the effect constantly.
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Thank you, I'm watching State of Origin and my books are on my computer so I was googling Assassin Vision and similar :/
 
Deliste said:
so I was googling Assassin Vision and similar :/
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Believe it or not, some months back when I was mulling over creating a specific Heart Tree to make Healers' services more effective, I did exactly same thing :V
That spell is a really neat basis for making any medical insitution better, imo.
 
egoo said:
Believe it or not, some months back when I was mulling over creating a specific Heart Tree to make Healers' services more effective, I did exactly same thing :V
That spell is a really neat basis for making any medical insitution better, imo.
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Well that's what happens when it's in the Complete Scoundrel book and iirc it's one of the few spells they illustrate and it's an Assassin using it.
 
Goldfish said:
If y'all are looking for good spells to detect people affected by Mind Blank, Healer's Vision is perfect.

Healer's Vision – Spell – D&D Tools

It's a useful 1st Divination spell that doesn't allow a saving throw and always functions against eligible targets. It would only cost 400 IM to make an item which provides the effect constantly.
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Oh shit. Straight up this is way better than my idea. If anyone shows up under healer's vision but not their insides they are under an illusion...if they don't show up at all it's Mindblank. Now of course those people better have message ready to send to the head bosses so they can show up because Mindblank is out of their pay grade.
 
One Autumn Leaf said:
Oh shit. Straight up this is way better than my idea. If anyone shows up under healer's vision but not their insides they are under an illusion...if they don't show up at all it's Mindblank. Now of course those people better have message ready to send to the head bosses so they can show up because Mindblank is out of their pay grade.
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My read would be

True Form = True Insides

Fake Form = Fake Insides

Mind Blank = No Insides?

It's getting a little close to @TotallyNotEvil's point of loopholes giving it away though, if an illusion can spoof it with fake insides then Mindblank probably should too.

With See Beyond I was banking on some kind of aura etc being read, not seeing additional information otherwise not available (the large bonii to checks from ethereal plane signs) is a bit different, I think/hope.
 
Deliste said:
My read would be

True Form = True Insides

Fake Form = Fake Insides

Mind Blank = No Insides?

It's getting a little close to @TotallyNotEvil's point of loopholes giving it away though, if an illusion can spoof it with fake insides then Mindblank probably should too.

With See Beyond I was banking on some kind of aura etc being read, not seeing additional information otherwise not available (the large bonii to checks from ethereal plane signs) is a bit different, I think/hope.
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This is a question that we need to ask DP. A ruling here would be needed for this.
 
I don't think Mind Blank should provide false data to spells like Healer's Vision. That's needlessly complex.

There are a ton of Divination spells which can be used in a round about manner to see if someone is Mind Blanked. The spell does exactly what it says, blocking Divination in all forms. Thus, if a Divination spell which should provide some sort of information returns nothing, it's an obvious indicator of something like Mind Blank being in effect.

Mind Blank isn't subtle. You're basically walking around with the mystic equivalent to a full body lead-lined hazmat suit.
 
Goldfish said:
I don't think Mind Blank should provide false data to spells like Healer's Vision. That's needlessly complex.

There are a ton of Divination spells which can be used in a round about manner to see if someone is Mind Blanked. The spell does exactly what it says, blocking Divination in all forms. Thus, if a Divination spell which should provide some sort of information returns nothing, it's an obvious indicator of something like Mind Blank being in effect.

Mind Blank isn't subtle. You're basically walking around with the mystic equivalent to a full body lead-lined hazmat suit.
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I agree with this point of view. If you are using mind blank to sneak around, fine. But it really dosent feel like a long term infiltration option.
 
btw, @Deliste, you mind writing up making those Umbral Spies as a Minor Action?
I honestly have little to no idea what they are, let alone how many we need and/or where to set them on.
 
DragonParadox said:
Guys, regarding the winning vote, Shyra is going to want to know how you found out her secret and be very concerned on the matter. What do you want to tell her?
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I'm guessing telling her we were in the middle of gathering Stormlord support and did bit of investigating on how we could help her to gain her support won't go over very well?

Would offering her a permanancied Mage's Private Sanctuary in her bedchambers be a suitable token of apology as well as a tool she could use in the future?
 
Duesal said:
I'm guessing telling her we were in the middle of gathering Stormlord support and did bit of investigating on how we could help her to gain her support won't go over very well?

Would offering her a permanancied Mage's Private Sanctuary in her bedchambers be a suitable token of apology as well as a tool she could use in the future?
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It might in general, I was talking about the specific question of how you found out. Admitting you are looking in on her dreams probably will not go off well.
 
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