[X] Goldfish

The "think of it not as a gift" part reads weird when, soon after, you mention the gifts you gave him. Still, good enough.

Also, the new Spider Man is great.

The acting, in special, of how Quentin was acting just a tad too good to be true whet trying to earn his trust, or how Fury and Maria were off. Acting like you are are trying to act is pretty tough, but these three pulled it off pretty damn well.

Mysterio was downright scary at many points, not with the first hair raising "mindfuck Spidey" sequence, which was great, but in how he seemed more omnipotent than damn Thanos in how he controlled reality.

Charismatic, understandable, scarily powerful and effective. Great villain. A hell of a kickstart to the post-Iron Man cinematic universe.
 
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@Goldfish

"These should not be considered gifts, my lord. Brienne has been Chosen by the Warrior for a life of danger and violence. Please allow us to give her the tools that might help her live a long rewarding life, one interrupted by unfortunate bouts of violence, rather than a short brutal existence snuffed out decades too soon."

The Seven have already shown that being their chosen does not mean you're going to be doing the right thing with the right priorities.

"...Brienne has chosen the path of a defender, shielding others from danger and violence..."

Also it's just not in our interest to build up the Seven so I'd be more comfortable with that change.

[X] Goldfish
 
[X] Goldfish

The "think of it not as a gift" part reads weird when, soon after, you mention the gifts you gave him. Still, good enough.

Also, the new Spider Man is great.

The acting, in special, of how Quentin was acting just a tad too good to be true whet trying to earn his trust, or how Fury and Maria were off. Acting like you are are trying to act is pretty tough, but these three pulled it off pretty damn well.

Mysterio was downright scary at many points, not with the first hair raising "mindfuck Spidey" sequence, which was great, but in how he seemed more omnipotent than damn Thanos in how he controlled reality.

Charismatic, understandable, scarily powerful and effective. Great villain. A hell of a kickstart to the post-Iron Man cinematic universe.
Plan updated somewhat to remove that reference to gifts, as well as polish the speechifying a bit.

[X] Plan "So your daughters wants to be an adventurer?"
-[X] "Your daughter Brienne is the main reason we have traveled to Tarth, my lord. Word of her deeds has begun to spread beyond the shores of this island, of evils fought and costly triumphs, of treachery and survival by the barest of margins. Brienne appears to have truly embraced her calling in the short time since we were last here." Encourage Selwyn to speak of Brienne's accomplishments and struggles, if he seems willing.
--[X] When Viserys deems it most appropriate, move on to this: "Well I know the difficulty of fighting dark creatures with little more than luck, skill, and a glimmer of sorcerous power, my lord. It has not been so many years since my magic awakened in Braavos, when even a minor talisman might be the difference between life and death as my companions and I fought monsters crawling out of their hidden slumber. We could have all died on more than one occasion for simple lack of adequate supplies." Look to Dany and Richard to provide confirmation of this statement.
---[X] "It is now within my means to make certain that others who have taken up the cause of defending humanity, of protecting the innocent from those whom would prey upon them, are adequately prepared for the rigors of battle. If you would allow me, I would bestow upon Brienne the fruits of my artificers' labor; enchanted arms and armor, talismans to ward the mind and body, and various accoutrements to aid her in battle. From my alchemists, I would make available a stockpile of substances, some to use to heal the body, to purge toxins or disease, and others to use as weapons should the situation demand it. And lastly, compiled from my libraries, books and notes which provide detailed information on the strength and weaknesses of the monsters, of how to identify them, and how to defend against them."
----[X] If Selwyn seems reluctant to allow Brienne to accept such an offering, or suspicious of the offer, explain; "These should not be considered gifts, my lord. Brienne has chosen the path of a defender, shielding others from danger and violence. Please allow us to give her the tools that might help her live a long rewarding life, one interrupted by unfortunate bouts of violence, rather than a short brutal existence snuffed out decades too soon."
-[X] With that matter settled, move on to an equally weighty issue. "I fear there is more to discuss than your daughter's deeds or the tools I would bestow upon Brienne to aid in her holy duty, my lord. Horrors from the depths of nightmare now plague Westeros, yet oaths sworn in good conscience would prevent lords from accepting my aid, would even see those whom I help labeled traitors for not rejecting my assistance."
--[X] "For years since the return of magic, devils have worked their twisted plots, the restless dead stir from their crypts and barrows, and beasts from times immemorial awaken to devour us all, and what has been done in response?"
---[X] "Tywin Lanniser's force of armsmen, knights, and mages are allowed to run rampant, committing wholesale slaughter of the inhabitants of those villages suspected of dealing with dark powers, yet do nothing to prevent them from being tainted in the first place. Perhaps in time this strategy might succeed, or transform Westeros into an abandoned wasteland drowned in the blood of the innocent and the damned alike." If Selwyn seems receptive, explain to him what we have learned of Tywin's practice of binding mages and enchanting his vassals.
----[X] "The thought of a king allowing this darkness to sink its claws so deeply into the land without even attempting to root it out...the sheer incompetence of it is simply unacceptable. How many wrongs must I right or monsters must I slay, all without the cooperation or trust of the lords of the land, hamstrung as they are by their oaths of fealty to an ineffectual king. What good is a king who does not use his power and influence to protect his people, my lord?

-----[X] "My duty compels me to try to secure the safety of the people regardless, because I am not pretender to the Iron Throne."
------[X] "I am, and have always been, Viserys Targaryen, rightful ruler of Westeros and King of the Andals, the Rhoynar and the First Men. And I would be failing in my duty to behave in any other manner."

-[X] When Brienne is summoned to Selwyn's presence, greet her as you would any adult hero, but without seeming patronizing due to her age or gender. She has more than earned the right to such respect.
--[X] After speaking with her, perhaps reiterating some of what we already told Selwyn, draw from within our cloak a large chest of exquisite craftsmanship. It contains her Adventurer's Starter Kit(™). We will, of course, provide her instruction on the function of the contents.

This large Masterwork treasure chest (75 lbs. empty, 6 cu ft of storage space) is crafted from cedar and banded in Mithral, all magically Hardened, and emblazoned with the Tarth family crest. It is secured with a Superior quality lock (DC 40 to open using Disable Device). It contains;

Equipment:
  • Anklets of Rapid Translocation:
    • Benefit from a +30ft Enhancement bonus to ground movement speed.
    • 2/Day Instantly teleport up to 10 feet to an unoccupied destination within line of sight and line of effect. The wearer can teleport with objects, up to their maximum load, but cannot bring other creatures.
  • Boneward Belt of Giant's Growth (+2 CON):
    • Healing (3 charges/Day): 1 charge (Heal 2d8 points of damage), 2 charges (Heal 3d8), or 3 charges(Heal 4d8)
    • 3/Day use Enlarge Person(self only) as a Swift Action for up to 10 rounds per day. The effect can be dismissed as a Free Action.
  • Cloak of the Hedge Wizard (Divination):
  • Earring of Arcane Acuity (+1 CHA):
    • 3 Charges/Day: 1 Charge(Darkvision 60 ft., 1 hour), 2 Charges (See Invisibility, 10 minutes), 3 Charges (True Seeing, 1 minute)
  • Gloves of Zephyr's Grace (+2 DEX, +2 STR)
  • Greater Amulet of Protection from Evil:
    • 3 Charges/Day: 1 Charge (12 Temporary Hit Points), 2 Charges (18 Temporary Hit Points), 3 Charges (24 Temporary Hit Points), Duration: 10 minutes
  • Greater Ribbon of Disguise: Alter Self, Magic Aura, Undetectable Alignment (At Will)
  • Greatreach Bracers of Quickstrike:
    • 3/Day as a Swift Action, your arms stretch and elongate extending your Reach by 10 feet for one round.
    • 1/Day you can make one extra attack with any weapon you are holding if you already made a full attack on this turn. This attack is made at your full base attack bonus, plus any modifiers appropriate to the situation. This effect is not cumulative with any other effect that grants you an extra attack when making a full attack, such as the Rapid Shot feat, a speed weapon, or the haste spell.
  • Handy Haversack: This backpack is of high quality but appears otherwise normal.
    • It has two side pouches, each of which appears large enough to hold about a quart of material. In fact, each is like a Bag of Holding and can actually hold material of as much as 2 cubic feet in volume or 20 pounds in weight. The large central portion of the pack can contain up to 8 cubic feet or 80 pounds of material. Even when so filled, the backpack always weighs only 5 pounds.
    • While such storage is useful enough, the pack has an even greater power. When the wearer reaches into it for a specific item, that item is always on top. Thus, no digging around and fumbling is ever necessary to find what a haversack contains. Retrieving any specific item from a haversack is a Move Action, but it does not provoke the Attacks of Opportunity that retrieving a stored item usually does.
  • Muleback Cords(Slotless): Strength score is 8 higher than normal when determining carrying capacity.
  • Ring of Sustenance
  • Watchful Warrior's Ring:
    • When this ring is activated as a Standard Action, any armor or weapon the bearer is currently wearing disappear and are stored within the ring, and any armor or weapon currently stored within the ring appear in the appropriate places on their body (items that must be held appear at their feet if their hands aren't free hands).
  • +1 Reinforced Segmented Glammered Adamantine Fullplate
  • +1 Razor Sharp Adamantine Shortsword
  • +1 Razor Sharp Cold Iron Shortsword
  • +1 Razor Sharp Mithral Shortsword
  • +1 Heavy Mithral Shield
Single-Use Charms:
  • x1 Sending Stone
  • x1 Plane Shift (with personal instruction from us on how to use it to reach Armun Kelisk and our embassy there)
Alchemical Supplies:
  • x30 Antiplague
  • x20 Antitoxin
  • x5 Auran Mask
  • x100 Healing Salve
  • x20 Smoke Sticks
  • x20 Sunrods
  • x30 Vermin Repellent
  • x20 Alchemist's Fire
  • x20 Fungal Stun Vials
  • x20 Liquid Ice
  • x20 Sleep-Smoke
  • x10 Tanglefoot Bag
  • x10 Thunderstone
Study Material:
  • Canticle of Decay
  • Journals of the Betrayed
  • In Memory of Death
  • Reign of Madness
  • The Bitter Cub
  • Bestiary of the Bizarre
  • Plus notes on Devils, Fey, Demons, and other assorted beasties.
 
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@Goldfish

"These should not be considered gifts, my lord. Brienne has been Chosen by the Warrior for a life of danger and violence. Please allow us to give her the tools that might help her live a long rewarding life, one interrupted by unfortunate bouts of violence, rather than a short brutal existence snuffed out decades too soon."

The Seven have already shown that being their chosen does not mean you're going to be doing the right thing with the right priorities.

"...Brienne has chosen the path of a defender, shielding others from danger and violence..."

Also it's just not in our interest to build up the Seven so I'd be more comfortable with that change.

[X] Goldfish
Good point. Changes made.
 
I can help you go quote-hunting if needed.
Even name dredging would help with Egoo mapping out these changes. Primary seated Lords only, if it helps, at this point that is a better way of tracking our expanding influence than even tracking PCs or noble heirs who are truly receptive. For example Redwyne and Hightower were by all accounts receptive toward us but still trying to act in good faith toward their own liege lord. We made progress on the former's heir and shown the unfaithfulness and incompetence of Tyrell to both, but it isn't the same as a bald oath of allegiance that Tarly or Florent gave us, or now Stannis as an example, just as Frey in comparison has no reason to betray us but still had to be lead by the nose to that conclusion.

Helps determining what we can get entire Houses to do for us by tracking the motives for swearing those oaths.
 
Those were two beings not one, the first a tyrant garbed in unbreakable armor (until it met Just Maid), the second a dragon that never slept. How much is fact and how much fancy Viserys cannot say for certain, though he suspects far more of the latter than the former.
Yeah a dragon that never slept is just too farfetched, Viserys is the closest to an insomniac a dragon can be, and he still sleep 2 hours a night, it's unlikely to the extreme, that any dragon could ever fully defeat the urge to nap.
 
Vote closed.
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Jul 8, 2019 at 4:25 AM, finished with 75 posts and 12 votes.

  • [X] Plan "So your daughters wants to be an adventurer?"
    -[X] "Your daughter Brienne is the main reason we have traveled to Tarth, my lord. Word of her deeds has begun to spread beyond the shores of this island, of evils fought and costly triumphs, of treachery and survival by the barest of margins. Brienne appears to have truly embraced her calling in the short time since we were last here." Encourage Selwyn to speak of Brienne's accomplishments and struggles, if he seems willing.
    --[X] When Viserys deems it most appropriate, move on to this: "Well I know the difficulty of fighting dark creatures with little more than luck, skill, and a glimmer of sorcerous power, my lord. It has not been so many years since my magic awakened in Braavos, when even a minor talisman might be the difference between life and death as my companions and I fought monsters crawling out of their hidden slumber. We could have all died on more than one occasion for simple lack of adequate supplies." Look to Dany and Richard to provide confirmation of this statement.
    ---[X] "It is now within my means to make certain that others who have taken up the cause of defending humanity, of protecting the innocent from those whom would prey upon them, are adequately prepared for the rigors of battle. If you would allow me, I would bestow upon Brienne the fruits of my artificers' labor; enchanted arms and armor, talismans to ward the mind and body, and various accoutrements to aid her in battle. From my alchemists, I would make available a stockpile of substances, some to use to heal the body, to purge toxins or disease, and others to use as weapons should the situation demand it. And lastly, compiled from my libraries, books and notes which provide detailed information on the strength and weaknesses of the monsters, of how to identify them, and how to defend against them."
    ----[X] If Selwyn seems reluctant to allow Brienne to accept such an offering, or suspicious of the offer, explain; "These should not be considered gifts, my lord. Brienne has chosen the path of a defender, shielding others from danger and violence. Please allow us to give her the tools that might help her live a long rewarding life, one interrupted by unfortunate bouts of violence, rather than a short brutal existence snuffed out decades too soon."
    -[X] With that matter settled, move on to an equally weighty issue. "I fear there is more to discuss than your daughter's deeds or the tools I would bestow upon Brienne to aid in her holy duty, my lord. Horrors from the depths of nightmare now plague Westeros, yet oaths sworn in good conscience would prevent lords from accepting my aid, would even see those whom I help labeled traitors for not rejecting my assistance."
    --[X] "For years since the return of magic, devils have worked their twisted plots, the restless dead stir from their crypts and barrows, and beasts from times immemorial awaken to devour us all, and what has been done in response?"
    ---[X] "Tywin Lanniser's force of armsmen, knights, and mages are allowed to run rampant, committing wholesale slaughter of the inhabitants of those villages suspected of dealing with dark powers, yet do nothing to prevent them from being tainted in the first place. Perhaps in time this strategy might succeed, or transform Westeros into an abandoned wasteland drowned in the blood of the innocent and the damned alike." If Selwyn seems receptive, explain to him what we have learned of Tywin's practice of binding mages and enchanting his vassals.
    ----[X] "The thought of a king allowing this darkness to sink its claws so deeply into the land without even attempting to root it out...the sheer incompetence of it is simply unacceptable. How many wrongs must I right or monsters must I slay, all without the cooperation or trust of the lords of the land, hamstrung as they are by their oaths of fealty to an ineffectual king. What good is a king who does not use his power and influence to protect his people, my lord?
    -----[X] "My duty compels me to try to secure the safety of the people regardless, because I am not pretender to the Iron Throne."
    ------[X] "I am, and have always been, Viserys Targaryen, rightful ruler of Westeros and King of the Andals, the Rhoynar and the First Men. And I would be failing in my duty to behave in any other manner."
    -[X] When Brienne is summoned to Selwyn's presence, greet her as you would any adult hero, but without seeming patronizing due to her age or gender. She has more than earned the right to such respect.
    --[X] After speaking with her, perhaps reiterating some of what we already told Selwyn, draw from within our cloak a large chest of exquisite craftsmanship. It contains her Adventurer's Starter Kit(™). We will, of course, provide her instruction on the function of the contents.
 
@Goldfish @TalonofAnathrax @Artemis1992 @TotallyNotEvil

Reckon we can Fungus Forge an upgraded Griegfall to give the Illithid a taste of their own medicine?
I had forgotten about those. Or perhaps I repressed the memories?

I realize they might not seen too awful to an Australian, but those things creep me out. I really don't want to create something like that. It would probably backfire on us, too, with them deciding to ally with the Deep Ones or simply serving as inspiration for their fleshcrafters to make something even worse.
 
Our personal Evil rating would go up A LOT, but I can't see a mechanical reason why not.

It kind of sucks as a method of combat though. It kills a single target, slowly, and without any especially strong movement or infiltration or defensive powers.

Hence upgrading them a little, give it nice bump to stealth and make it so it eats memories instead of emotions and we have a showstopper.

Conventional Combat isn't the point though, Illithid live in highly centralised communities by necessity.

I had forgotten about those. Or perhaps I repressed the memories?

I realize they might not seen too awful to an Australian, but those things creep me out. I really don't want to create something like that. It would probably backfire on us, too, with them deciding to ally with the Deep Ones or simply serving as inspiration for their fleshcrafters to make something even worse.

I really don't see where you're getting this from, the same would be true of literally anything effective we create.
 
@Goldfish @TalonofAnathrax @Artemis1992 @TotallyNotEvil

Reckon we can Fungus Forge an upgraded Griegfall to give the Illithid a taste of their own medicine?
Mechanical issue: Illithids are Aberrations, so technically a Dominate Person-like effect is useless.
Fluffwise I'm not sure if feeding on the mind/emotions of Aberrations from the Far Realm works well for a creature that's supposed to eat mortals.

I would suggest to create a specifically Mindflayer-tuned version instead of running with the baseline and hoping for the best.
 
I really don't see where you're getting this from, the same would be true of literally anything effective we create.
Parasites creep me out on a visceral level. The first time I saw a botfly larva peeking through someone's skin, I thought I would vomit.

I don't want to create something which can only continue its life cycle by parasitism of sentient beings and there is no good way to make a viable species which only targets Deep Ones. There aren't enough of them where we can easily access them, so we would be creating intelligent creatures destined to die shortly thereafter because they couldn't find a viable host to infect.

Would much prefer to grow or craft something similar to your Bigger Fish idea.
 
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