Also here's hoping that the Yellow Emperor not responding to our attacks on other Aberrations means he doesn't care or doesn't feel we're worth the bother.
Fortunately for us, the Great Old Ones all hate each other, to the point of actively sabotaging one another. If anything, they'd laugh from the sidelines.
Under Arcane Spellsurge, SotD goes down to a full-round (from 1 round) casting time, so it'd need Greater Celerity, which I'm unsure exists in the setting.
We could cheat a bit with a Belt of Battle, tho.
If we can land a Quickened Avasculate through the SR, that'd speed things up significantly.
The original 3.5 sheet for Balerion could instant noodle this motherfucker with a bit of gear and a buff or two...
Wyrm+ Reds don't really care who, or what you are. If you are in charging range, then you are already dead.
Of course, the good ol' strategy of "start a Dragon Gangbang" is always viable: Viserys came to party and brought his friends Amrelath, the Harbinger, Balerion and Silverwing. Lady Saenena crashes the party with Korzion, fashionably late.
Under Arcane Spellsurge, SotD goes down to a full-round (from 1 round) casting time, so it'd need Greater Celerity, which I'm unsure exists in the setting.
We could cheat a bit with a Belt of Battle, tho.
If we can land a Quickened Avasculate through the SR, that'd speed things up significantly.
The original 3.5 sheet for Balerion could instant noodle this motherfucker with a bit of gear and a buff or two...
Wyrm+ Reds don't really care who, or what you are. If you are in charging range, then you are already dead.
Of course, the good ol' strategy of "start a Dragon Gangbang" is always viable: Viserys came to party and brought his friends Amrelath, the Harbinger, Balerion and Silverwing. Lady Saenena crashes the party, fashionably late.
"The robes themselves remain inanimate on the ground, but any humanoid creature that touches them must succeed at a DC 40 Willsave to resist a sudden urge to put the robes on."
I was weirded out when I saw he had a +7 to damage on his attacks, turns out he "only" has 24 STR, and is a medium creature. Funny how I immediately imagined something enormous when I saw he was a Great Old One, but I think the simple tattered robes hold greater potential if played just right.
In the Strange Aeons AP the players run into Hastur's primary minions so I'm just imagining the King in Yellow as our opposition here, which makes him a Companion-worthy challenge but outside of the 'this guy will continue to respawn until Hastur decides to stop doing so' he is not apocalyptic. Of course if DP decides to base ANYTHING about Carcosa on that AP then we have much bigger problems.
It's too bad the conspiracy to murder Balerion was so long ago that all the primary conspirators are dead, would have been nice to terrify them at the Citadel with a Colossal sky ghost.
It's too bad the conspiracy to murder Balerion was so long ago that all the primary conspirators are dead, would have been nice to terrify them at the Citadel with a Colossal sky ghost.
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Jul 3, 2019 at 2:36 AM, finished with 261 posts and 14 votes.
[X] Plan "Welcome to the fold." -[X] "You have your duty here in the Stormlands, my lord, to rule well and to protect your people. As your king, it is my responsibility to help you in this." --[X] There is much he needs to know to weather the coming days in a position of strength: ---[X] The value of gold is going to continue to decrease in the near future. He should consider investing his liquid assets in alternate currencies, such as the Imperial Mark. ---[X] The price of grain is going to decrease significantly within the next couple seasons as commonly available rituals greatly increase the amounts that can be harvested. He should be careful not to invest too heavily in it, at least not with intent to sell it. Rather, he should make certain he has enough stockpiled to help feed his people should there be a famine caused by a mass shift to other, more lucrative crops. ---[X] Present company excepted, the Maesters as an institution are not to be trusted. Thare is a conspiracy within the leadership of the Citadel. Tell him what we've learned of them so far, along with our encounters with them. ---[X] Not only is Tywin magically binding his mages, there is some evidence that he might also be doing the same to his vassal lords, perhaps even outright compelling them through magic. ---[X] Provide explanations, evidence, and reasoning as needed for what we share with him. --[X] Offer him enchanted arms and armor for himself and his trusted men, along with items of power to ward their minds and strengthen their bodies. They would serve as the core of his forces sent to deal with inhuman threats. ---[X] This would include Valyrian Steel weapons and +1 Adamantine armor for up to two dozen men or women, along with a Healing Belt and Ring of Protection from Evil for each of them. Additional mundane but masterwork quality equipment can be provided in much higher quantities. Significant quantities of useful Alchemical substances, such as Healing Salve and Alchemist's Fire, can also be provided. ---[X] Among what we share will be the following texts: Canticle of Decay (guidebook on Daemons), Journals of the Betrayed (Guidebook on Others), Reign of Madness ("guidebook" on Illithids), The Bitter Cup (guidebook on Undead). Also give him copies of what notes we have on Devils, Demons, and the Fey. It is critical information relating to the true enemies of mankind. ---[X] We will leave Stannis with a Whispering Brazier so that we can communicate freely with no time delay, as well as a trio of Sending Stones to contact us even more directly if it proves necessary. ---[X] If he would like, we will also leave him a Calligraphy Wyrm. They are incredibly useful assistants who can help ease the demands on Stannis' time while being unquestionably loyal. --[X] Make available training in sorcery in our Scholariums for as many trustworthy people as he can find with the potential for magic, along with training from our Inquisition and other institutions to recognize and combat inhuman threats. --[X] Offer to loan him additional manpower. Depending on his needs and desires, we can make available trustworthy mages and men-at-arms to supplement Stannis' forces until his own are ready. --[X] Shireen's continued wellbeing is also a cause for concern. If Stannis does not wish to send her to Sorcerer's Deep for instruction, we can provide a tutor and protector. Although humans are available that are well suited to this task, we would recommend a Lesser Phoenix instead. They possess the temperament to work with children and are one of the few unabashedly good beings we have met in our travels beyond this realm. ---[X] A Phoenix could also blend into his household with little trouble, considering Selyse's recent conversion to the Red Faith. --[X] Finally, offer Stannis the last unassigned Mind Blank ring we currently have available. Explain to him what it is and what it does. Not only will it guard his mind, but so too will it prevent the Lannisters and others from Divining his decision to join us.
Still, let's not be inefficient about it. PR matters, and rebellions suck. We can pull a EU and make the Brits beg to be let in simply by being richer, happier and stronger, and all the while gobbling up their former colonies and holdings (or at least their markets).
And then when they try to enter, we pull a De Gaulle and play hard to get
We still made a promise, no conquest for conquests sake, if a place isn't a tyranny, and don't want to join the Imperium, then we promised we wouldn't turn to violence to force them.
We still made a promise, no conquest for conquests sake, if a place isn't a tyranny, and don't want to join the Imperium, then we promised we wouldn't turn to violence to force them.
The problem is that most actions taken with the mindset of a statesmen who is trying to pick the most optimal, even choices in spirit of moral obligate "righteous" action, will inevitably reflect a bias towards the interests of those who fall under their influence, be they allies or clients, often to the indirect detriment of those who they aren't acting in the direct interest of, because they are so monolithic that the wake of those actions sweeps them up or aside.
You can't be the objectively "good" guy if you engage in realpolitik. Period. Even if you're not trying to specifically do harm, every action has consequence, and the smaller you are when weighted on the scale of nations, the more ambiguous the consequences measured against the motivations of singular individuals are.
This sees less resistance, I admit, when it is a council of representatives or even just a junta of oligarchs/military command staff calling the shots, rather than a single person who makes the final decision, but we accepted that some may try to tar us the moment we decided to become a militant despot.
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Jul 3, 2019 at 2:36 AM, finished with 261 posts and 14 votes.
[X] Plan "Welcome to the fold." -[X] "You have your duty here in the Stormlands, my lord, to rule well and to protect your people. As your king, it is my responsibility to help you in this." --[X] There is much he needs to know to weather the coming days in a position of strength: ---[X] The value of gold is going to continue to decrease in the near future. He should consider investing his liquid assets in alternate currencies, such as the Imperial Mark. ---[X] The price of grain is going to decrease significantly within the next couple seasons as commonly available rituals greatly increase the amounts that can be harvested. He should be careful not to invest too heavily in it, at least not with intent to sell it. Rather, he should make certain he has enough stockpiled to help feed his people should there be a famine caused by a mass shift to other, more lucrative crops. ---[X] Present company excepted, the Maesters as an institution are not to be trusted. Thare is a conspiracy within the leadership of the Citadel. Tell him what we've learned of them so far, along with our encounters with them. ---[X] Not only is Tywin magically binding his mages, there is some evidence that he might also be doing the same to his vassal lords, perhaps even outright compelling them through magic. ---[X] Provide explanations, evidence, and reasoning as needed for what we share with him. --[X] Offer him enchanted arms and armor for himself and his trusted men, along with items of power to ward their minds and strengthen their bodies. They would serve as the core of his forces sent to deal with inhuman threats. ---[X] This would include Valyrian Steel weapons and +1 Adamantine armor for up to two dozen men or women, along with a Healing Belt and Ring of Protection from Evil for each of them. Additional mundane but masterwork quality equipment can be provided in much higher quantities. Significant quantities of useful Alchemical substances, such as Healing Salve and Alchemist's Fire, can also be provided. ---[X] Among what we share will be the following texts: Canticle of Decay (guidebook on Daemons), Journals of the Betrayed (Guidebook on Others), Reign of Madness ("guidebook" on Illithids), The Bitter Cup (guidebook on Undead). Also give him copies of what notes we have on Devils, Demons, and the Fey. It is critical information relating to the true enemies of mankind. ---[X] We will leave Stannis with a Whispering Brazier so that we can communicate freely with no time delay, as well as a trio of Sending Stones to contact us even more directly if it proves necessary. ---[X] If he would like, we will also leave him a Calligraphy Wyrm. They are incredibly useful assistants who can help ease the demands on Stannis' time while being unquestionably loyal. --[X] Make available training in sorcery in our Scholariums for as many trustworthy people as he can find with the potential for magic, along with training from our Inquisition and other institutions to recognize and combat inhuman threats. --[X] Offer to loan him additional manpower. Depending on his needs and desires, we can make available trustworthy mages and men-at-arms to supplement Stannis' forces until his own are ready. --[X] Shireen's continued wellbeing is also a cause for concern. If Stannis does not wish to send her to Sorcerer's Deep for instruction, we can provide a tutor and protector. Although humans are available that are well suited to this task, we would recommend a Lesser Phoenix instead. They possess the temperament to work with children and are one of the few unabashedly good beings we have met in our travels beyond this realm. ---[X] A Phoenix could also blend into his household with little trouble, considering Selyse's recent conversion to the Red Faith. --[X] Finally, offer Stannis the last unassigned Mind Blank ring we currently have available. Explain to him what it is and what it does. Not only will it guard his mind, but so too will it prevent the Lannisters and others from Divining his decision to join us.
You let out a long sigh, not quite able to hold back your relief. Somewhere along the line from that day aboard the Fury and this you had come to count Stannis Baratheon among the very best lords of Westeros, not for any spark of genius but for the sheer unwavering determination to his duty, the same determination that would have forced you to kill him had he chosen differently. "You have your duty here in the Stormlands, my lord, to rule well and to protect your people. As your king, it is my responsibility to help you in this." Glad you are to say the words, and glad is the Lord of Storm's End to hear them, though you have little doubt he would have raised his banners at once if asked, no matter how unwise the choice, or how much it would still pain him.
He nods firmly, though his next words are uncharacteristically hesitant: "Who else has sworn to you, Your Grace?" Who are my fellow traitors? he might as well have asked, for unlike many other lords you have little doubt he counts himself a traitor, if one with cause great enough for the sin.
You suspect he worries also that you would not trust him with the names, given the newness of his vow, but that could not be further from your thoughts. You would have to fail as much as your father or Robert for him to ever ponder a third betrayal, and that shall never come to pass. "Here," you say, drawing out a plain ring of smooth stone so dark it seems to swallow the light that falls upon it. "This will keep your thoughts safe from eavesdroppers and guarded from compulsion, as well as preventing the Golden Shields or anyone else from divining your decision."
Dany surreptitiously places her right hand upon the desk to show she too wears the ring's twin, though it seems Stannis requires no reassurance, placing it upon his finger at once and only asking. "How much do these cost?"
"Twenty-two-thousand Imperial Marks, and requiring the work of a Mage of the Eighth Circle for weeks," you reply, quashing any hopes that they might be used on some wider scale. "I would have far fewer of them were it not for trade with the Opaline Vault and Armun Kelisk..." From there it does not take you long to explain why the value of gold might continue to fall when trading with a city that can use it for paving stone.
However, soon enough you return to his first question, naming the lords high and low who have sworn to you, in many cases only confirming his suspicions, though as you go over the Houses of the Reach, you see a glimmer of relief in his eye that the Tyrells are spoken of so late and their only oath was not to fight you, itself far from a certain prospect. The irony of trusting the man who had held Storm's End for the rebels a thousand times more than you do the 'loyalist' who had besieged him escapes no one in the room, though it is Maester Cressen who shows it the most, a brief but heartfelt smile of satisfaction upon his aged face.
Alas that he does not have long to bask in his vindication for long as along with news of the grain bubble that will burst over Westeros this season and the possibility that Tywin is binding not only his mages with geas but his vassal lords also comes the advice not to blindly trust those the Citadel. You recount the the poisoning of Lord Brune and what you had learned after from the traitor Maester, though you have to keep back what Pycelle had shared for now, for that would require admitting the Grand Maester is your pawn now, which comes too close in turn to revealing 'Varys'' allegiance. There are some secrets you cannot share outside of your Companions until the Red Keep is yours... and others you are genuinely worried about revealing for Stannis' own peace of mind.
As you meet your mother's worried gaze, she shakes her head ever so slightly, agreeing with your judgement not to reveal the Lannister incest just yet. If there is one thing that could drive Stannis into doing something foolish in a rage it is the revelation of how blind his elder bother had been to his very legacy being stolen. Best leave that for another day when he is more at peace with his decision and his place in the world.
Instead, talk of sorcery and handing out copies of books that might aid him and his trusted agents in finding Fiends, Far-Spawn, Wintersworn, and the living dead come next. Cressen takes the books with eager hands, even managing a jest: "Ser Davos might be a touch daunted for all the reading he will have to do."
"He will do his duty as we all must," Stannis replies, in what might seem to be missing the point entirely were it not for a slight softening of his gaze. He understands what the Maester is doing, appreciates it even, he just cannot find it in himself to smile at the words.
In return the Lord of Storm's End gives you an accounting of the sorcerers he and the changeling Renly before him had managed to gather both from the wreck of the Alchemist's Guild and from scouring the land for hedge witches and maegi new-come into their power.
Survivors of the Guild and their Apprentices
1 Alchemist lvl 8
2 Alchemists lvl 5
5 Alchemists lvl 3
7 Alchemists lvl 1
Minor Mages
4 Hedge Mages lvl 5
7 Hedge mages lvl 4
12 Hedge mages lvl 2
15 Hedge mages lvl 1
Fifteen alchemists, eight of them survivors of the guild... On one hand you are glad to hear of them. The production lines of Royce Alchemical Works could always use more supervisors, on the other hand you trust Denys Trainer's students considerably more than you do those taught by 'The Most Venerable Order of Pyromancers'. You are tempted to interrogate all of them, but you suspect Stannis would take badly to that sort of instant distrust of men he had counted loyal enough to accept beneath his roof.
"Excellent," you nod instead. "With that many alchemists no one should look in askance at an influx of alchemical works over the coming weeks and months if it is kept to a reasonable rate, though other sorcerous workings might still prove troublesome."
In the end Stannis accepts as many healing belts and amulets of warding as you can hand out, though for secrecy's sake he chooses simple enchanted steel over Adamantine and Valyrian Steel even for himself, causing Maester Cressen to look at once proud and faintly scandalized. As you also present the Whispering Brazier that is to be the connection between Storm's End and the Deep you make a mental note to present Stannis with a Valyrian Steel blade wrought for his hand in particular on the day his alliance need no longer be secret.
12 Healing belts
12 PfE Amulets
12 Weapons and armor +1 (New Forged)
1 Whispering Brazier
What do you do next?
[] Ask about the state of the Stormlands in light of the recent change in power, who would Stannis trust and who might need more persuasion to remain loyal
[] Discuss the matter of the Storm God and his desire to return to Storm's End
[] Write in
OOC: Calligraphy wyrm and phoenix have been left out for now since I want Shireen and Selyse preset for that scene.
[X] Ask about the state of the Stormlands in light of the recent change in power, who would Stannis trust and who might need more persuasion to remain loyal.
-[X] How lightly have the Lannisters and the Golden Shields tread in the Stormlands since the days began where they started having to watch their backs in the Riverlands and the Crownlands due to a glut of loyalists? Any chance of entanglements there?
-[X] Rumors of supernatural activity?