I could do that sure. Sounds fun.
A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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I could do that sure. Sounds fun.
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That's really wrong dude.
She has her Divine Realm and then her main temple on Planetos. That's not a branch office.
To stretch the metaphor beyond breaking her divine realm would be her own office on floor 32 but you'd expect her in meeting rooms and kitchen spaces.
What kind of organisation can even be represented by HQ which is back office, non customer facing and no revenue generation going straight into a third world branch you don't even know the name of the manager for?
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And with a full thread catchup I cast Thought That Counts!
[X] Crake
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tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
It's understandable, though I worry about how that work, with the enemies we throw in the Fungus Forge, I mean it's not like our enemies never get resurrected, so how do you make this ruling work, without us occasionally losing all use of an enemy body, because the enemy is strong enough to have a resurrection on call?
I mean Fiends and Celestials, naturally resurrect in their Outer Plane, and since we have gotten HD from them, clearly such resurrection don't count, the Rakshasa Lord, whose CR20 corpse we are planning to use for a batch, is also self-resurrecting in a new form, how do this work, with resurrection making them magically empty?
So all in all I'm fine with it for our allies, but I really don't like the implications for our enemies, it would suck if we lost the High CR corpse, we planned to make a batch in the Fungus Forge with, because the enemy was rich enough, to have a Priest with True Resurrection standing ready to revive them.
So all in all, I would prefer if we went with the ruling that the Fungus Forge drain a level from people being True Resurrected, and just had Viserys not think of feeding most of his weaker Vassals corpses to the Fungus Forge, before using lesser Resurrection magic.
Fiends and celestials reforming is not quite like resurrection, for one thing it takes much longer and for another it's a manifestation of the planes or some grand magic ritual. The point would be that mortal resurrection makes them magically empty. As for true resurrection on call, that is vanishingly rare and most of the people who could do it will probably end up in Yss' stomach anyway.
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Interlude CDXCVII: Stranger's Eye
Stranger's Eye
Twenty-Eight Day of the Ninth Month 293 AC
It was a day of celebration in Myr, not the brightest, nor the loudest, for this was not the city at the heart of the day's events, but still the tinkers' wares clinked merrily, the hawkers of food and drink boldly proclaimed the worth of their stock, and alehouses were filled far more and far sooner than on most other days. The King had won a great victory over Pentos it was said along with his Braavosi allies, who would soon be allies no more but fellow citizens. There was much nodding to be had that the Braavosi had proven 'as sensible as Myrmen,' though a few worried voices amid the highborn, the Voices, and the bureaucracy whispered fears of excessive Braavosi influence. The Bastard Daughter was already uncannily skilled at twisting hands to spill coins into its pockets. How much more so could that be true with the ear of the King?
Lanna Lannister, Lady of Castamere and first among the Golden Shields, looked up at the rippling enchanted mirror without any trace of the good cheer around her reflecting in her gaze, and her worries that ran far deeper than gold running north or south along the Narrow Sea. All of Western Essos was his now or soon would be, for the notion that Lorath could resist such might was ludicrous...
The Dragon King stood before the Moon Pool with his sister to one side and the Sealord on the other, around them were arrayed companions and Braavosi notables alike. The little princess was waving at the crowd and the mirror, the Mage smiling brightly, arcane fire in her gaze. Even the Shadow was marking the moment when the city of his birth would pass under the Dragon's wings.
Four years ago this would have been mad fancy, the sort that not even the most foolish playwright would consider putting upon a stage, Lanna thought, dragons born again, spirits bright and dark walking under the light of common day, Valyria's Daughters united as one. Yet for all that fear coiled in her stomach Lanna could not bring herself to hate the turning of the age. Four years ago I was betrothed to Antario Jast and him I would have wed. The idea felt revolting beyond any feelings of dislike to the knight himself, like picturing herself living her whole life in the mineshafts beneath the Rock never even knowing there was a sky beyond the roof of stone.
"To the people of Braavos I say welcome to the Imperium, as I was welcomed years past into your fair city," Viserys Targaryen began, more than his voice radiating sincerity. He was dressed simply in the manner of Braavos and he bore the grey doublet and black half-cloak easily. "For my sister and I it was our first true home, far more so than the Red Keep which we were forced to flee as children, and we will be forever grateful to the city and its people for helping to shape us, to nurturing us when we were vulnerable, and accepting us when magic returned to the world. Here we have found not only allies, but friends beyond price..." With a momentary turn of the head away from the crowd he smiled at the Shadow and the Mage.
Did he mean it, Lanna wondered, or was he just such a consummate actor that he could play the same part standing on the steps of the Red Keep or atop the Black Walls of Volantis. What was behind that charming smile, she had to know, not just for herself, but for her children's sake also. Who was the man behind all the masks?
"In all honesty, it feels as though I have never left home. Jon Arryn's threadbare exile could not lock Braavos away from my heart any more than it could bar my passage. With that in mind, and in heartfelt thanks to the city that sheltered me in uncommon times and left me with some of the most pleasant memories of my quite eventful life, I would like to announce the construction of a novel and new quarter, to better tie the city to the greater realm upon which it has been joined to."
Cheers greeted the announcement that Drowned Town would be raised, both behind the mirror and before it. But Lanna had to wonder what would the people living there think of the Dragon smashing their homes to raise the land higher. More than one king after all had considered removing the stain upon King's Landing that was Flea Bottom, only to have royal ambition shatter upon the desperation of the meek. Then again, she had seen firsthand how his city had no slums. Perhaps by some sorcery and silvered tongue he could see the promise fulfilled.
"It is the least of the works I have in mind for it, much like other territories to follow, but I hope it does not diminish in your sight the sincere gratitude to the citizens living here upon which it is meant. Let to them the spoils of this grand triumph of ours go, for I need of them naught."
Lanna snorted softly, the sound lost in the excited murmur of the crowd. Anyone who believed that must have never met a taxman. Developing land was always to the benefit of the lord in the long run if it was done right. Her tenure restoring Castamere had taught her that alongside many other lessons of good rule.
"Look forward to the times ahead of us, standing in the light of day, hand-in-hand, for a brighter future."
For the woman who melted into the crowds soon after the future looked no brighter than the rain clouds gathering overhead.
OOC: Here we are. Lanna is not a fan, but I tried not to make her irrationally biased. Hopefully I struck the right balance. I'm going to need a vote on what to do next, whether it's seeing more from Braavos in an update or moving on.
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We have those kind of enemies too, until now I thought this was a non-issue and that we can assume suicide taints the body or whatever you want to believe for allies but now it seems an actual issue because our enemies are far more likely to be mulched and resurrected both in the normal course of affairs, no cheese necessary.
We go to great lengths with half of them to avoid that being the case after all.
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I'm going to need some time to think this though.
*sigh*
I feel like I have to design a whole system for 1-2 exceptional cases. I'm beginning to think this might be a good time to just apply handwaveium.
tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
The ones who could have True Resurrection on call, is the same kind of people, we are most likely to have to kill in battle, so the chance of it coming up at some point is more than zero, and it would feel quite bad, to lose our high CR corpses, because they were smart enough, to have bought a True Resurrection Scroll as insurance.
And we are moving in the kind of circles where that's certainly a possibility, those champions of the Sultan we just killed could have done it, in this case they were probably too arrogant to consider dying, but I don't like, that the only thing between us losing the best corpse we have, is enemy arrogance.
tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
I would be fully okay with just saying, that the Fungus Forge is still a form of sacrificial engine, and so it wont accept totally false sacrifices, which mean while it don't care if your enemies resurrect what you toss in it, if you plan to do it yourself, then the sacrifice is false and so worthless.
Basically have it work for the same reason, we can't mass-produce magic items, and grow Heart Trees with them.
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I just wanted to highlight it wasn't an issue but now was, handwavium away but I think @tarrangar 's idea works just fine and remains consistent.
I think you did a good job with it, I found the balanced between bias and reason for her very well executed.
So jaded Lanna, we're nothing if not a benevolent overlord
Anyway I really liked the speech DP. According to my view of Vyseris, most everything he said there was actually true - and that always makes for the best propaganda.
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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[X] See more of Braavos
-[X] Visit the establishments of Silver Eye, trade companies located in Braavos, Orphne Court and the Arsenal - seeing to all needs for ensuring their swift integration into your Realm.
--[X] Additionaly, gather the cursed items Silver Eye gathered (2 months' worth).
--[X] Learn the full abilities of Arsenal, and the costs of ship-building on it.
--[X] Grow the Heart-Trees you long planned for:
---[X] A Healing Tree for Sealord in Pentos.
---[X] A Healing Tree for Sealord in Braavos (this one being a tree aside from their Silver Eye tree).
--[X] Visit the Court of Shadows, and decide the place and terms on which they shall become part of your Empire.
I want to raise trees, get a few rolls for unique items, and learn the stats for Arsenal, with, maybe, any problematic economy questions arising from them swearing to us.
-[X] Visit the establishments of Silver Eye, trade companies located in Braavos, Orphne Court and the Arsenal - seeing to all needs for ensuring their swift integration into your Realm.
--[X] Additionaly, gather the cursed items Silver Eye gathered (2 months' worth).
--[X] Learn the full abilities of Arsenal, and the costs of ship-building on it.
--[X] Grow the Heart-Trees you long planned for:
---[X] A Healing Tree for Sealord in Pentos.
---[X] A Healing Tree for Sealord in Braavos (this one being a tree aside from their Silver Eye tree).
--[X] Visit the Court of Shadows, and decide the place and terms on which they shall become part of your Empire.
I want to raise trees, get a few rolls for unique items, and learn the stats for Arsenal, with, maybe, any problematic economy questions arising from them swearing to us.
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egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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They want to swear about a month after Braavos, so as to keep their self-esteem more-or-less intact.
lockingbane
If you're crazy and you know it clap your hands!
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You did so very well.
I think she might be turned after the conquest, or even before it if she thinks we are going to be the winning side if only for the sake of her children.
With her magic they could easily reach nobility once more and if that were made clear.... She might just submit or at least not oppose us.
It really depends on if we could actually get her alone long enough to do so.
tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
We should definitely do that, their old weapons and armor are valuable sacrifices, and the stuff we can craft them are better than it.
We have moved away from WBL, so I wouldn't use that to calculate their reward.
Personally I think considering we got millions of IM in loot here, we should give them each 50k in Reward, although this is of course the total reward, so the cost of any equipment we give them, is included in the calculations.
tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
If they turn they will never stop being nobility, they will have to change their name, and their claim to Casterly Rock will be forfeit, but they will still rule Castamere.
Sure, that sounds fine, and we can all agree not to look too closely into the the wording. That way lies the unfun kind of rules-lawyering.
tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
Agreed, I'm glad that we managed to avoid a salt explosion this time, it was nice to have a discussion that didn't end in salt.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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That was great @DragonParadox. Poor Lanna, her time dealing with Tywin has left its mark. She should just arrange his "accidental" death and install Tyrion as his successor.
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@egoo What trees were we planning to grow for them again? I can't recall the effects.
Also, what minor actions are left for us this month? If nothing is too pressing, we could easily spend a couple days in Braavos. There is a lot to do, and I want us to visit the Titan of Braavos to see about upgrading it.
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@egoo What trees were we planning to grow for them again? I can't recall the effects.
Also, what minor actions are left for us this month? If nothing is too pressing, we could easily spend a couple days in Braavos. There is a lot to do, and I want us to visit the Titan of Braavos to see about upgrading it.
tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
That would be kind of bad for us, if Tywin died and Tyrion took over, then it would be far harder to justify destroying the Lannister family, as Tyrion would probably be smart enough to surrender immediately.
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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essentially, we are done.
Mooton is also somewhere there, but I assume DP is going to Rhaella him over in the background.
The same seems to go about getting the Falxugon (only, well, not via Rhaella) now, that we haven't chosen him the last vote.
Regular Healing Tree for Pentos, ...something something for Braavos.
Can't remember the effects either :/
lockingbane
If you're crazy and you know it clap your hands!
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Oh, that sounds epic!
I mean, imagine if we make the Titan into a true Golem plated with Adamantite and/or layered with enchantments that can work the weather, hide the city in fog, shoot fire at distant enemies, create a shield to prevent entry, and so on.
Perhaps some kind of Trade Blessing or something to increase charisma?
Or maybe a way to determine magical items from fakes and whether they are dangerous or not.