Horologer
Incertae sedis
- Location
- a risen sea
I'm not seeing the problem here. We can just replace them with Pythagoreans.
Magna Graecia: Titanomachia (A City State Quest)
- Thread starter Cetashwayo
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dontpressenter
Irrational Philosopher
- Location
- An alternate universe not unlike our own...
So if the Pythagoreans are against beans and meat, wouldn't that mean they would be a direct threat to Eretria's rock lifting abilities?
The Sandman
So Zetta Slowpoke
- Location
- Wherever I am, which isn't where I'm not
No, because I think the beans and meat thing was from the Pythagorean sect that lost out in their internal slapfight over which group was the most Pythagorean. The one that won, and that we'd be importing, was the one more focused on practical applications of maths and scientific observation to get at the numbers that underlie everything than on maintaining odd habits and taboos.
So they're still weirdos, but useful ones instead of vegan stereotypes.
So they're still weirdos, but useful ones instead of vegan stereotypes.
- Location
- Luton Airport
An excellent incentive structure to develop being able to calculate the closing speed of an enraged "unicorn" rapidly!
So we are quite literally getting the lot that are bean counters?:lol
Godwinson
"Well, I've got nothing."
"Friends, citizens, men of Eretria! I am truly proud of what the Demos Galê has achieved this election," Theophilos casts his stones for Kyros Gennadios and Mnemnon Keylonos, "Behold! The only deme with not a single stone cast in its favor! Today we are all weasels, and every day that we do not act to reform the Demes."
[X] Proboulos: Kyros Gennadios (Demos Antipatria)
[X] Xenoparakletor: Mnemnon Keylonos (Demos Exoria)
[X] Proboulos: Kyros Gennadios (Demos Antipatria)
[X] Xenoparakletor: Mnemnon Keylonos (Demos Exoria)
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Godwinson
"Well, I've got nothing."
(Damn, I was hoping that completely absurd speech would've been the tie-breaker to seal the vote, because that'd have been hilarious)
- Location
- in the trash
[X] Proboulos: Theron Archippos (Demos Exoria)
[X] Xenoparakletor: Athenagoras Symmachos (Demos Drakonia)
[X] Xenoparakletor: Athenagoras Symmachos (Demos Drakonia)
- Location
- Central Europe
So we are looking at a likely pluarlity goverment with both Antipatrids and Exorians hovering around 40%. I just hope the narrative isn't too divisive, since the two platforms are actually quite compatible. The big differences are Immigration policy (Loyality vs. Labor) and the temple extension (Make DM dominant throughout the Epulian League vs. Enhance Barbaroi Hellenization).
However, their religious policies have the potential for synthesis and then we are left with a military policy for the Antipatrids and a commercial one for the Exorians. If money is the key issue to be able to undertake both during this boule, then I personally don't see that as a big problem. Our treasury is full and we will have only 3 out of 4 years of planned construction, which should give us even more funds to allocate.
However, their religious policies have the potential for synthesis and then we are left with a military policy for the Antipatrids and a commercial one for the Exorians. If money is the key issue to be able to undertake both during this boule, then I personally don't see that as a big problem. Our treasury is full and we will have only 3 out of 4 years of planned construction, which should give us even more funds to allocate.
Which of the two is it now? Only the ratio of the proboulos election, or the combined ratio of both elections?
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- Location
- Austria
It's not just trade, that's the thing; it's also binding closer our barbaroi vassals. Especially good in case of Messapii - trade will likely give them a bit of an economic boost they need.
Can be nifty if we manage to combine it with festivals in some way, to keep hellenizing them.
- Location
- Luton Airport
A blend of the two platforms would be fine to be honest. A Temple to Artemis but in her aspect as part of one of the distinctively Eretrian Divine Marriages with Orion, for example.
- Pronouns
- He/Him
More indecision
[X] Proboulos: Theron Archippos (Demos Exoria)
[X] Xenoparakletor: Obander Eupraxis (Demos Antipatria)
Also, a moment to comment the atmosphere of the thread. In a normal quest an argument this close would have already generated at least a staff warning's worth of salt.
[X] Proboulos: Theron Archippos (Demos Exoria)
[X] Xenoparakletor: Obander Eupraxis (Demos Antipatria)
Also, a moment to comment the atmosphere of the thread. In a normal quest an argument this close would have already generated at least a staff warning's worth of salt.
- Location
- Austria
Suppose we want to build a temple.
It will take 5 years. However, by the 3rd year we expand the project and now it will take 7 years. By 6th year it expands again and will now take 8 years. By 7th it will take half a year more, and so on and so forth.
Thus, whatever point of time are we in, there is still some building to be done before the temple is complete.
Hey, by the way, Zeno has already been born, right? he was born in 495BC after all.
dontpressenter
Irrational Philosopher
- Location
- An alternate universe not unlike our own...
I believe that the rp nature provided a bit of a cushion, making it less personal than it could have been.
Also, so far as I know we've got nothing better than hearsay about the diet things. They may have loved beans and ate meat, and the stories to the contrary are just false rumours meant to make them seem like a bunch of weirdos you didn't want in your city.
fasquardon
Cetashwayo
Lord of Ten Thousand Years
- Location
- Across the Horizon
@Spacegnom Combined ratio. The part you quoted is not exclusive with the xenoparakletor influencing it as well, but I have edited it to clarify.
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Vote closes in a few hours.
- Location
- Luton Airport
Would this be possible, given near parity between Exodia and Antipatrid?
So, I totally respect where you're coming from here, and I don't disagree. I would like to see the Pythagoreans come to Eretria as well, I love mathematics and I think it could lead to some very interesting things. Feminist philosopher-mathematicians especially!
My motivation for voting the way I am here is because I am confident that in the worst case, the Pythagoreans will still be around in five or ten years. The synergies we can grab this turn with the Exorian slate, however - striking whilst the iron is hot in forging bonds with our new barbaroi allies, taking the chance to effectively bless our union and turn the war into a retroactive act of piety with the Temple of Artemis- seem time-limited to this turn. So as @Cavalier says, it's sort of a question of timing. There is a golden moment to begin trade and joint festivals this turn and woo our new friends, and reform our religious calendar whilst showing our renewed piety.
That being said, your suggestion here of a merger on certain key points is also interesting, and not something I'm necessarily opposed to. Certainly just going by the regular mechanics, with the vote having been the way it is, I suspect there will be many Antipatrid officers, so we may end up seeing the Pythagoreans turn up sooner, rather than later.
This is amazing. When I wrote my vote for Exoria, that internal policy had 0 votes and I thought I was basically wasting my vote.
Now, thanks to Skippy tirelessly advocating for it, it's actually winning.
Even convinced me of the Antipatria foreign policy (especially now with the change in the mechanic). But seeing as they are comfortably winning, I will keep my previous vote for balance.
I didn't think a good argument would be able to sway a vote like that. Great thread community.
Also thanks to Cetashwayo for a great Quest.
Now, thanks to Skippy tirelessly advocating for it, it's actually winning.
Even convinced me of the Antipatria foreign policy (especially now with the change in the mechanic). But seeing as they are comfortably winning, I will keep my previous vote for balance.
I didn't think a good argument would be able to sway a vote like that. Great thread community.
Also thanks to Cetashwayo for a great Quest.
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