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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Crake said:
Viserys in my plan isn't guilty that he crafted a realm that is just and prosperous and actually gives two shits about the average person, whereas in Westeros killing your own peasants often results in zero consequences except in the most extreme cases. You just have to be quiet about it.

He's tired because nothing has gone according to plan, and I feel that deserves some recognition.
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That and throught this whole thing, too many things happened!

Plot over plot, over plot, the fae, the deep ones, Tiamat, after dealing with all of it I think it's normal to be unbalanced and make hurried decisions, even knowing that we have time.

We could have at any time let things go and tried things differently, tried to talk to Danelle or Lucan rumors bedamned, we are powerful enough to do it, but since it has been a total rush momentum carried us to act out.

It's time to slow down a bit, and relax.

[X] Plan Vacation
-[x] You just want this event to be over, talk to who you need to talk and finish this business or finish it later, you are going to take Lya and every companion that wants to go, and teleport to Summer Islands to enjoy the beach and Coconuts for at least a month, the imperium can survive without direct supervision.
 
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Evaunit02mark1 said:
That's one of the reasons I didn't like it either. Viserys shouldn't be weary, he should be annoyed at being called a man who crafted a Hell-on-Land, to his face no less, and being called paranoid for believing he was in enemy territory while surrounded by the people who, to the best of his knowledge, had been acting like his enemies.
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Yeah, that's pretty much it.
Crake said:
He's tired because nothing has gone according to plan, and I feel that deserves some recognition.
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And that's fair, but this is not, by far, the worst he's dealt with.

Personally, I'm more annoyed than tired with this. Because, as Eva02 said, she just called our kingdom Hell-on-Earth, and is chastising us for actions I fundamentally don't believe were wrong, because we were acting as enemies to someone we had every indication was one.
TalonofAnathrax said:
Artemis1992 is a regular, right?
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The oldest, from the first time he posted, IIRC.
TalonofAnathrax said:
(not sure why I assume everyone counts TNE as a regular,
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Oy, frenchie, I've built a lot of the foundations in this place, and I regularly hang around and throw peanuts. Very insightful peanuts, as you've noticed.

But I've been picking up these last months, have you noticed?
Duesal said:
I ended up switching majors and had to spend an extra year because a lot of my courses didn't carry over. I graduate tomorrow.
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Holy shit my dude, congratulations. What's your degree in? I think it was... law?
 
Shance said:
That and throught this whole thing, too many things happened! Plot over plot, over plot, the fae, the deep ones, Tiamat, after dealing with all of it I think it's normal too be unbalanced and make hurried desicions, even knowing that we have time. We could have at any time let things go and tried another time, tried to talk to Danelle or Lucan rumors or no rumors, we are powerful enough, but since it has been a total rush and knowing that sneaking around has mostly worked, we went for the most known path.

It's time to slow down a bit, and relax.

[X] Plan Vacation
-[x] You just want this event to be over, talk to who you need to talk and finish this business or finish it later, you are going to take Lya and every companion that wants to go, and teleport to Summer Islands to enjoy the beach and Coconuts.
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We don't deserve the Demiplane of Eternal Beach Parties. Not yet.

And yes, I do mean the thread when I say "we".
 
Crake said:
We don't deserve the Demiplane of Eternal Beach Parties. Not yet.

And yes, I do mean the thread when I say "we".
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How many gods do we have to kill before we get to see Lya in the solid platinum bathing suit?

Legitimate question, because the Eternal Beach Party FUCK THIS SHIT I'M OUT plan is basically my win condition.
 
[X] Plan full Evil Overlord

Sorry if I'm beating a dead horse but this last vote reminds me of the moral choices in the old alignment system only without the alignment spelled out for us. We have two mutually exclusive choices, one obviously Good and one obviously Evil, expect this time we can't even make a compromise vote. It even comes with all the salt that the alignment system used to cause. :V
 
zxzx24 said:
Whats a mixture off tired, irritated, and pissed off?
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"You know what, fine. You want to talk, I'm putting your money where your mouth is. Your friends go free, his friends go free, and we all go somewhere and talk. Because frankly? I'm tired of having to skulk around like a thief in the night just to make sure another town doesn't get overrun by deep ones, or Fae, or another Sept doesn't burn down or get consecrated to Tiamat or some other fell power every other week it seems to happen in Westeros."
 
egoo said:
...I really, really hate that Baelor is going to be getting justifications now.

This is a railroad, plain and simple.
For ethical reasons, or to subvert expectations...
I don't really care, to be honest.

I'm just finding myself in agreement with those annoyed by how it is all pushed down on us.

But, not annoyed enough to care.
This is a shitshow, and I'm watching the fireworks go.

[X] Plan full Evil Overlord
-[X] Turtle her, then look for Lucan to turtle too. Deal with them and their friends later.
-[X] Impersonate both at the Conclave to do what we intend to do.

(I'm very much unwilling to back down on anything, yes. And since it's this, or backing down, I'm going all-out)
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Not that I'm actually entertaining the idea, but how do you intend to even pull that off? we know very little about their internal working, would have to fool angels and everyone they've made a deal with... It's just not feasible.
 
Honestly if this arc has taught me one thing its that, much like Duesal and much like Crake at times I should just focus on the parts of the thread that make me happy. Because I will be happier if I don't agonize every fucking time over the thread tearing itself in half over morals and perceived crap. However if they try to moralize to us I hope the thread tells them to go fuck themselves.
 
Ericwinter said:
Not that I'm actually entertaining the idea, but how do you intend to even pull that off? we know very little about their internal working, would have to fool angels and everyone they've made a deal with... It's just not feasible.
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It's a throwaway vote without actually trying to put critical thinking of what it takes to actually be a good villain.

You know, I would be arguing up and down on why we should put our own needs and agenda ahead of Team Seven-Who-Kill-Fun, but we've basically painted ourselves into a corner here.
 
One Autumn Leaf said:
Honestly if this arc has taught me one thing its that, much like Duesal and much like Crake at times I should just focus on the parts of the thread that make me happy. Because I will be happier if I don't agonize every fucking time over the thread tearing itself in half over morals and perceived crap. However if they try to moralize to us I hope the thread tells them to go fuck themselves.
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The essence of my vote is to hear them out, let them field their complaints about devil binding and whatever, and just calmly dissect or clear up any misconceptions, or just plainly say "yes, I do that, and this is why, and if you don't like it go fuck yourself, now can we move on?"
 
Crake said:
The essence of my vote is to hear them out, let them field their complaints about devil binding and whatever, and just calmly dissect or clear up any misconceptions, or just plainly say "yes, I do that, and this is why, and if you don't like it go fuck yourself, now can we move on?"
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Yeah and I am more than okay with that. In fact.

[X] Crake
 
[X] Plan full Evil Overlord
-[X] Turtle her, then look for Lucan to turtle too. Deal with them and their friends later.
-[X] Impersonate both at the Conclave to do what we intend to do.

You know what? Fuck it.

I'm tired and angry and disappointed. The moment someone pointed out that the Seven/Chosen were disappointing in a challenge/effort way this arc turned gears from a intrigue plot to a moralizing plot, and we didn't get one but two Alightment votes!

Lucan got retconned into a totally nice guy from one day to the other (of course we didn't have *that* much evidence of his behavior before, so props for that) Danelle now agrees with him and actually risked her life (actually asking was her outburst a Diplomacy Roll failure or it fell fitting narratively?), Baelor the Blessed KINGKILLER had an actual point other than killing us and everything we love!

And now Viserys is taking it lying down suddenly tired because yet more shit about his life choices was thrown in his face, and how he actually made Valyria 2: Pirates of the Narrow Sea?

Just voting for this as a statement and because its probably going to make it easier to remain here later cause I won't leave cause one thing didn't went my way.

TL,DR: Maegor didn't go far enough.
 
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@Azel, if you're there, what do we need to do to get a fey minion to run the Fey Forge for us? What kind of fey do we need, and where do we start looking? The kind we already have don't seem suited for that sort of stuff.

Maybe a Dryad Queen or something?
 
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