A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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Snowfire
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I'd prefer to hit them, yes. Possibly try to snag them with ingested knockout poisons - I know @DragonParadox has stated that ingested poisons are meant to be much more dangerous in this quest.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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Viserys will have you know, stacks of parchment are terrifying.
Alinor: *taps foot*
Evaunit02mark1
S-s-smell the Prey, S-s-start the Hunt.
If that's the case then we kill them all.
Honestly I'm starting to think I'm the only one who remembers that we're a fucking dragon most days.
Dragon + Sorcerer levels + Mythic bullshit x thing dragon doesn't like = dead thing dragon doesn't like on fire and possibly half digested for good measure.
Morality is all well and good but sometimes you just need to get Seath the Scaleless on their asses.
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Is unconfirmed supposition, unelss someone else can confirm it as true? Would you mind adding the word "(possibly)" or taking that bit out?
Like seriously, if anyone can even say "actually, I am damm confident this is true" I'll retract, 'cuz I am a bit fluffy on this.
Edit: wait, you had 'likely'
I parsed that wrong. I prefer 'possibly', but likely does fit within acceptable bounds of uncertainty (i.e. it conveys uncertainty).
Sorry for that
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I think that if we capture as many as possible then we will have a good way to cripple as much of their organization as possible. Make it look like the Golden Shields did it and then watch the fire works in conclave as the Lannister-Lucan alliance collapses due to perceived kidnapping. From there it is a matter of interrogation, info gathering and capitalizing on the chaos.
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There's a number of practical reasons that we would like to avoid this. Please remember that civilian casualties transfer fairly consistently to economic slumps and delayed infrastructure.
Ericwinter
Definitely not a Skaven Infiltrator
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The problem with this is not moral, but political. Just burning everything would be a nice short term victory, but the continuous bloodshed, diplomacy hits, and stigma of being, quite simply, a stereotypical Targaryen, means we don't have the troops or civil support necessary for when we can't simply burn everything, such as the Long Winter. There are explicit reasons the character has been played as he has for the last 3 million words worth of story.
There is also the fact that the potential burning of KL by Aerys features in Viserys' nightmares, so I would not say here's no moral element.
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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This supposition is born out of OGs and Bloodraven's explanation on how one reaches godhood/creates a semi-deific entity (like Green Dream).
Where OGs used Weirwoods (connected to Leylines) as conduits for their power in said act, and where we can use roads (stretching the entierty of the Empire, and likely Leylines too), the thing that Sultan has... Is Living Bronze.
There's just no better narrative and magical conduit avaliable to him that is known to us.
He has the stuff produced in massive quantities, has been making it for a long time, and Living Bronze holds damn lot of power when combined together.
So yes, an assumption, but one I fully accede to unless I see evidence telling therwise.
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Ericwinter
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Well yes, but you have to pick your battles, and the most prominent reasoning is political. Not to mention, his argument was already "fuck morals, we're a dragon". So I pointed out the problem with that.
Evaunit02mark1
S-s-smell the Prey, S-s-start the Hunt.
Fine I'll settle for Lucan, just so long as we take care of at least one of our problems by the time this is over with.
Now that's just quitter talk.
Yes and for the last 2 million 50 to 60% of that was cleaning up Westerosi fuck ups or dealing with their charming attempts at offensive maneuvers and "diplomacy". Forgive me if I don't have much patience left for the little ingrates.
The thought of that place burning to the ground features in my dreams too. Different context mind you.
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Yeah it is a good thing that we removed all that wildfire as well as removed the people responsible for it on the same month. Otherwise that would still be a problem.
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[] Approach Septon Kyle to raise concerns about Lucan's radicalism
-[] Start by congratulating him on the results of the first day of the conclave.
-[] Mention that you were surprised when Lucan so readily agreed to side with Kyle, he is afterall a man of the sword.
--[] If Kyle responds with any concerns/suspicions, play into them.
--[] If He does not, speculate on the reasons Lucan must have had.
---[] Mention how unfortunate those rumors going around about Lucan are, and how they paint him out to be a much more dangerous man than he appears.
---[] Confide that while you aren't truly worried about Lucan, you are somewhat worried about how Ollidar might respond to it, viewing it as an attack at royal authority or some similar foolishness
[] Ask Tyrene to brew some potions capable of incapacitating mages, knocking them out, and restraining their power
-[]Magebane
-[]Sleep-Smoke
-[]Purple Keif
@egoo do we have time/resources left for divination/espionage tonight? Stolen Tomes, etc, etc.
[] Approach Septon Kyle to raise concerns about Lucan's radicalism
-[] Start by congratulating him on the results of the first day of the conclave.
-[] Mention that you were surprised when Lucan so readily agreed to side with Kyle, he is afterall a man of the sword.
--[] If Kyle responds with any concerns/suspicions, play into them.
--[] If He does not, speculate on the reasons Lucan must have had.
---[] Mention how unfortunate those rumors going around about Lucan are, and how they paint him out to be a much more dangerous man than he appears.
---[] Confide that while you aren't truly worried about Lucan, you are somewhat worried about how Ollidar might respond to it, viewing it as an attack at royal authority or some similar foolishness
[] Ask Tyrene to brew some potions capable of incapacitating mages, knocking them out, and restraining their power
-[]Magebane
-[]Sleep-Smoke
-[]Purple Keif
@egoo do we have time/resources left for divination/espionage tonight? Stolen Tomes, etc, etc.
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Snowfire
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I actually would like Lucan alive at the end of this as of the current moment. But we'll see where things take us.
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I'm fine with him being alive, just as long as he is very very unpopular and very very busy.
Evaunit02mark1
S-s-smell the Prey, S-s-start the Hunt.
Oh come on, he's one of the guys actually trying to kill us.
I'm not. I'd rather he be impaled on a tree so we can cross him off our ever growing list of assholes that need to be dealt with before one of the many apocalypses queuing up to gut us like a trout get's their shit together.
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Speaking of King's Landing I remind the thread that we have found a very interesting specimen in the form of the Ratmen. it is a new species and very proficient in the art of alchemy. If need be we can recruit them into our fold.
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I have a suspicion we won't get much done towards our original goals until day 3. Both because we will need at least that long to get a proper grip on what this whole group looks like (at least well enough to confidently and correctly identify potential fracture points), and because we as Dywen do not have the personal and political clout to push things, and we know Danelle is coming then. From my understanding of Dywen, we could easily attach ourselves to any group around her and influence that. Please correct me if there are any incorrect assumptions or conclusions here, I'm much better at 1v1 socials than large groups.
Snowfire
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He's potentially highly useful. If we can keep him neutralised, I'd like to use him.
I feel our..little interaction with Lucan may have changed some opinions in that regard.
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I currently have a rough plan outlined that people seem to like, so assuming we stick to that we're going to be kidnapping people tomorrow, so we're getting started fairly early. That said thank you for reminding me Danelle existed, she honestly slipped my mind
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Eh, you and I have different views on spite I suppose. My personal fantasy is getting him to run our version of the Seven for us. Delightfully infeasible, but fun to think about.
Wait, we talked to Lucan? When? What happened?
Snowfire
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I currently have a rough plan outlined that people seem to like, so assuming we stick to that we're going to be kidnapping people tomorrow, so we're getting started fairly early. That said thank you for reminding me Danelle existed, she honestly slipped my mind
I'd prefer to leave the kidnapping to the Companions if at all possible, or if we really want Viserys there (we might given Mythic and other bullshit he can do) do so during the break so we can casually disappear whilst everyone is busy politicking.