Seneschal's?
and knwolege of the Deep Ones.
knowledge
little actual knwolege of the defense of Oldtown that does provide
little actual knowledge of the defense of Oldtown, that does provide
"Dorne will be the great winner of course economically and politically with a sure path of trade, untroubles by wind and wave spanning the straights to Sorcerer's Deep and Tyrosh beyond.
]"Dorne will be the great winner of course, economically and politically with a sure path of trade, untroubled by wind and wave spanning the straights to Sorcerer's Deep and Tyrosh beyond
struggling as much against each other as any foreign threat and an unquiet people only made more so by monsters and..." he cuts himself off.
struggling as much against each other as any foreign threat, and an unquiet people only made more so by monsters and-" he cuts himself off.
It is my greatest fear master Waters that he will try to do too much too soon as is often the sin of youth
It is my greatest fear, master Waters, that he will try to do too much, too soon, as is often the sin of youth
than any Robert Baratheon First of His Name could conceive.
than any Robert Baratheon, First of His Name, could conceive.
expect the Senechal to be cold or even troublesome if your links to the east are too obvious."
expect the Seneschal to be cold, or even troublesome, if your links to the east are too obvious."
Bless is kinda pointless with his scepter?
Which is pointless with his Aura.
This is level 7 though.
Compare it to level 7 spells and it doesn't look particularly OP, does it?
Lv 6.

And it's essentially obliviating a bard.

On that note, @spiritualatheist please take it easy with DFI, it's easily a goulda bordering on cheddar, things like specific instrument's bonuses to shift around Inspire Courage bonuses for extra DFI, or applying it to splash damage, is too much, IMO.
 
On that note, @spiritualatheist please take it easy with DFI, it's easily a goulda bordering on cheddar,
Yeah, ill second that.

While a mental image of slaughtering an army by releasing a bunch of kittens with 5d6 fire damage bonus, or splashing them with waterer that burns at 5d6 is hilarious, it is far too cheesy for even my likes.
:V

I'll take those 4d6 fire damage-buffing bards please.
And spread that bonus over every single fighter in the army.

Lets make Legion great(er) again!
:V
 
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Vote closed.
Adhoc vote count started by Goldfish on Apr 28, 2019 at 9:57 AM, finished with 29 posts and 11 votes.

  • [X] Ask about the Conclave (leaving out any of the following questions if Ryam seems unwilling to answer, better to have him as a potential contact than wary of an over curious stranger);
    -[X] "I too fear that war may soon come to Westeros, for I have heard disturbing rumors about the upcoming Conclave of the Faith..."
    --[X] Try to learn what Ryan may know of the Reach Fey and their dealings with the Tyrells, insinuating that a credible rumor has made its way to us that Mace might be considering a marriage between his daughter and a Fey king, one who would claim dominion on Westerosi soil. Of course, if the Citadel was unaware before, this handily introduces the rumor to them.
    ---[X] What is the Citadel's opinion on this matter, if he is willing to share such information with us? Could this lead to another civil war less than two decades since the last one?
    ----[X] Is it believed Most Devout Septon Kyle actually has enough support or popularity to convince the members of the Conclave to support the legitimacy of such a union?
    --[X] Far more disturbing than vague rumors about Fey Lords and Tyrell ambitions, however, are the words and actions Brother Lucan, thought to be a Chosen of the Father Himself. He makes no attempt to hide his disdain for magic and those who would practice it outside the guidance of the Faith. Worse still, he seems intent on rebuilding the Faith Militant and instigating a return to a more pious time. A civil war would be unpleasant for all involved, but a holy war would be disastrous for Westeros.
    ---[X] Are we making a mountain out of a molehill, or is this something the Citadel also fears happening? War can be good for certain types of business, but it is terrible for the people as a whole, and we would much prefer the people remain alive and able to trade untroubled by the specter of war and death.
    ----[X] Does Brother Lucan have enough support among the Faith and nobility of Westeros to potentially realize his goals?
    -[X] What role, if any, does the Citadel expect to have in the upcoming Conclave?
 
Winning vote

[] Ask about the Conclave (leaving out any of the following questions if Ryam seems unwilling to answer, better to have him as a potential contact than wary of an over curious stranger);
-[] "I too fear that war may soon come to Westeros, for I have heard disturbing rumors about the upcoming Conclave of the Faith..."
--[] Try to learn what Ryan may know of the Reach Fey and their dealings with the Tyrells, insinuating that a credible rumor has made its way to us that Mace might be considering a marriage between his daughter and a Fey king, one who would claim dominion on Westerosi soil. Of course, if the Citadel was unaware before, this handily introduces the rumor to them.
---[] What is the Citadel's opinion on this matter, if he is willing to share such information with us? Could this lead to another civil war less than two decades since the last one?
----[] Is it believed Most Devout Septon Kyle actually has enough support or popularity to convince the members of the Conclave to support the legitimacy of such a union?
--[] Far more disturbing than vague rumors about Fey Lords and Tyrell ambitions, however, are the words and actions Brother Lucan, thought to be a Chosen of the Father Himself. He makes no attempt to hide his disdain for magic and those who would practice it outside the guidance of the Faith. Worse still, he seems intent on rebuilding the Faith Militant and instigating a return to a more pious time. A civil war would be unpleasant for all involved, but a holy war would be disastrous for Westeros.
---[] Are we making a mountain out of a molehill, or is this something the Citadel also fears happening? War can be good for certain types of business, but it is terrible for the people as a whole, and we would much prefer the people remain alive and able to trade untroubled by the specter of war and death.
----[] Does Brother Lucan have enough support among the Faith and nobility of Westeros to potentially realize his goals?
-[] What role, if any, does the Citadel expect to have in the upcoming Conclave?
 
Part MMDCCCII: Of Threads Ordered and Tangled
Of Threads Ordered and Tangled

Eighth Day of the Ninth Month 293 AC

Somewhat to your own surprise you find yourself liking Ryam. Whatever may be said of his order, you appreciate his genuine concern for the common good beyond the squabbles of lords and princes. Better to learn less and keep what goodwill you had gained so far, tenuous as it may be, than to take one step too far and have him become wary of an over-curious stranger. "I too fear that war may soon come to Westeros, for I have heard disturbing rumors about the upcoming Conclave of the Faith..."

Firstly you speak of the ambitions of House Tyrell, careful to couch it in terms of vague rumors, the sort of thing that is more fancy than fact, but also as something 'Corlys' feels he must ask, knowing as he does a good deal of Fey fair and foul and how few of them would be thoughtful overlords. One does not set a playwright of songsmith at the head of a realm expecting peace and prosperity, and grand dramas are oft unkind to those caught in their path.

The Archmaester looks disturbed, though it is clear as day he has not heard even half of what you had just inferred. Whether that means all his peers are in the same boat you could not say for certain, but if they are the secret is now revealed. "I shall have to send a letter to the Grand Maester with this information..." While he does not expand upon his feelings on the matter aloud, his face tells the tale of his disdain for Pycelle just as clearly to your eyes.

On the matter of Brother Lucan, however, the Archmaester has much more to say: "Ethereal beings are not necessarily as wise nor indeed as benevolent as they may appear to most, even should they have the best intentions. Even were these ordinary times, the reinstatement of the Faith Militant would be disruptive... now with the Dragon breathing down our necks it would be calamitous. I will not mince words with you, Master Waters, Lucan can be the spark in dry tinder, drawing to him all those looking for simple answers to the realm's current tribulations. After all, it is hard to find any answer simpler than 'let the gods sort it out'."

"A Tyroshi saying... or rather half of one," you note carefully.

He sighs, one hand going to his temple as though to massage away an ache. "It seems I am not as free from superstition as I had thought, for I would rather not speak the whole of it aloud, lest fate conspire to bring it about."

"How likely do you judge this scour taking root to plague the land?"

The question hangs in the air unanswered a long moment before he finally speaks: "Not all my skills could put a firm number upon those odds. Who is to know how men's hearts might be moved by the sight of miracles and angels? I can only say that mine is not moved. The Father I have worshiped since boyhood would not decree war that will be the death of thousands in the name of the Faith's secular power." The words are spoken with the quiet unshakable dignity of one who had already wrestled with his conscience and found peace in it.

You nod in admiration as much as agreement before asking, "What place will the Citadel have in the workings of the Conclave?"

"As a neutral and trusted party we have been entrusted with the counting of votes," the Archmaester replies, looking a touch embarrassed at sharing so much of the workings of his heart with a near-stranger. "Archmaester Perestan had volunteered for the honor of doing so, likely to give him as close a seat as possible from which to observe for his new book."

"Most Devout Kyle does not wish to be seen as taking too many of the High Septon's attributes?" you guess.

"I would not wish to speculate too deeply into the matter, but yes, that seems likely." Ryam shakes his head, his chain clinking faintly. "If he truly wishes to go so far as the news you gave me implies, he will need every show of humility he can muster."

"Let us hope that I was wrong, then," you reply smoothly, rising from the table to offer your hand.

"I would sooner verify myself, hope is too often but the first step on the road to disappointment," he replies, accepting the gesture. "This has been a most enlightening conversation. If you should need to speak to me again, Master Waters, feel free to tell the Seneschal your name and you will be given passage to my study. I am free most evenings after the fourth hour."

A legitimate reason to enter the Citadel, even better than you had hoped. You part ways with the Archmaester, satisfied at a job well done.

***​

Unfortunatel, not everything can run as smoothly. That afternoon as you are working to discover the schedules of the various important Godsworn attending the Conclave, Leto finds you with unfortunate news. Elder Septa Maer's delegation had arrived amidst an incident at the docks involving a minor Deep One body-snatcher which had set the entire delegation in uproar. Of itself that might have been counted a boon, were it not for the fact that the commotion happened less than thirty yards from a quay servicing a ship flying the Silver Serpent banner. One of the Vale elders, Andrew of the Bloody Gate, had immediately marked the ship as the cause of the 'foul sorcerous influences,' citing the presence of a minotaur crewman as further proof of 'ungodly monstrosities'.

Thankfully raised voices had been the worst that had come of it as the Watch Captain who arrived first to the scene and then even the Lord Commander of the Watch, Ser Moryn Tyrell, had pointedly reminded the septon that if he had charges to level against a trader in Oldtown's port he aught to bring them to Lord Hightower, not bandy them about in public like a peddler calling out wares of dubious provenience.

The septon had grudgingly backed down, though you fear the confrontation has already drawn too much attention to you and your efforts than you might have preferred, enough so that you wonder if there is not a second tendril to the Deep One's efforts aimed against you rather than House Tyrell.

What do you do next?

[] Approach the Lantern Bearers to help them deal with at least the Deep One plot you know of once and for all
-[] Write in

[] Leave the Lantern Bearers to their task as you had first decided and instead learn more about Elder Septa Maer's faction, their numbers, and their likelihood of aligning with Brother Lucan

[] Approach one of the other factions
-[] Write in


OOC: Just to be clear, whatever you choose in the next 2-3 days the Lantern Bearers are moving in on the Deep Ones you pointed out.
 
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Whatever happens, please please please make sure to get the Red Abishai for us. When the Lantern Bearers are about to strike we can try to summon it.

Actually... @DragonParadox, can we try to divine any names from its scale (including its own)? A piece of its body would have definitely heard its name.
 
Whatever happens, please please please make sure to get the Red Abishai for us. When the Lantern Bearers are about to strike we can try to summon it.

Actually... @DragonParadox, can we try to divine any names from its scale (including its own)? A piece of its body would have definitely heard its name.

You can try, keep in mind that it will take a quite a lot of meditation to listen to information up to 1year/CL back. I think it's a day or something like that.
 
Hmm we should convince Septa Maera to fight Luncan on every point he tries to make. If we can. poison the discussion before it even starts then we have a good shot of making this align with our goals.
 
IIRC we never traded for that knowledge. They wanted something of equal value and we declined since we weren't trading in golems or lore of that import.
That was long before we took over the city.

Now Phaessen is not an ally, but a vassal.
They, just as Zherys's Mysterium, the Citadel here and the Silver Eye will eventually give up all secrets to us, the only question is how much we press on the issue to get it done faster.
Their monopoly dies, either way.
 
Do we even want to try to directly interface with any factions of the Faith right now? If so, how would we do it? Certainly not as ourselves.
 
That was long before we took over the city.

Now Phaessen is not an ally, but a vassal.
They, just as Zherys's Mysterium, the Citadel here and the Silver Eye will eventually give up all secrets to us, the only question is how much we press on the issue to get it done faster.
Their monopoly dies, either way.
We could have traded for it offscreen. My point was that it was never traded for onscreen, nor was it covered in a vote.
 
We could have traded for it offscreen. My point was that it was never traded for onscreen, nor was it covered in a vote.
I know, which is why I asked DP about the situation.
We might have to do a Scholarium action eventually, or maybe things are going smoothly and we'll sooner or later get a report on all there is to know of them, once DP finds the time.
 
@Goldfish, would you mind helping me work on a plan to secure the Red Abishai for us? @Deliste had this earlier:
With Vision of Doom and the scale on hand we apply -10 to the Abishai's Save DC, followed up with a Trobriand's Baleful Teleport and we just summoned it without a name.

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By the way, it should be noted that none of this can be blocked by Mindblank and you can specifically target a creature you have only heard of, they get a +5 to their save and that's it.

Mind-blanked Tiamat Spawn could be fished for with sufficient DC buffing and if they make the save, try again tomorrow.

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The difficulty of the save depends on your knowledge the subject and the physical connection (if any) you have to that creature.

Knowledge Will Save Modifier
None* +10
Secondhand (you have heard of the subject) +5
Firsthand (you have met the subject) +0
Familiar (you know the subject well) -5
Connection Will Save Modifier
Likeness or picture -2
Possession or garment -4
Body part, lock of hair, bit of nail, etc. -10
Does it work for us mechanically?
 
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