The thing we are sending is a hefty investment. We have invaded countries for less insulting things. This will end in a war over water if the iths try anything
Viserys: "I've conquered people for less."

That'll make a fun anecdote to put in the autobiography. :V
Depending on who's stupid enough to mess with our fleet, they might end up sacrificed and stuffed.

I'm expecting something from the Deep Ones in retaliation for us taking Jeyne Weaver from them, I'm just not sure what they'd do.
 
Depending on who's stupid enough to mess with our fleet, they might end up sacrificed and stuffed.

I'm expecting something from the Deep Ones in retaliation for us taking Jeyne Weaver from them, I'm just not sure what they'd do.

I mean what were they expecting? They sent a psionic towards us with little protection towards divination. What? Were we not supposed to take it? It was gift wrapped
 
So, as someone not familiar with DnD can someone explain why there's such a hate on Krakens or why Krakens are such a big deal?
@Crake just has a hateboner for them, I think. I think there might have been some bad Japanese tentacle porn involved somewhere in there.

Lots of us still have murder!rage!hate!mutilationboners for the Wisps we encountered in the swamps outside of Braavos early in the quest because the smug little bastards nearly killed us.
 
@Azel @Goldfish Thinking on the Yi Ti expedition, we should also explicitly note under the turn action for that something extra important: The minute Moonsong or the Queen Rhaella catch even the smallest whiff of supernaturally formed weather, they correspond back home with the House of Mirrors and drop a half dozen divinations on it to confirm, then we teleport right over to snuff that storm out like a candle, because like HELL am I going to let Euron raid my fucking treasure fleet.

Don't put it past him! He's the only pirate goddamn crazy enough to think he can get away with it, the only one else without fear of our level of reprisal would be Deep Ones or a fucking Kraken or some shit.

Like a dozen Krakens.

GODDAMN, FUCK KRAKENS!!! :mad::rage::anger:
If something goes wrong with the fleet next month, we can easily pull Viserys, Lya, Richard, Vee, Amrelath, Relath and the Harbinger from their tasks for a day to deal with it.
 
XP in this case being interchangeable with HD, loot, or even just street cred.

We have done some crazy things just for street cred before. Must be our origins as a conman in Braavos.

Would you mind sharing your favourite example(s)? :D.

-Thinks back to the Golden Hearth.
I mean what were they expecting? They sent a psionic towards us with little protection towards divination. What? Were we not supposed to take it? It was gift wrapped

Which is why I posited that sending Jeyne was an actual gift because they'd rather be friends :D

(Edit: my guess is that they did not account for a boosted Vee succeeding.
As our only high skilled-level healer (not counting spell boosts) I very much want to focus more skill points into the skill if reasonable (we're at least two or three points from her cap in the skill))

Semi-related, in ASWAH, Would someone mind telling me if the following is correct? "Mindflayers are basically a cabal or group of far outsiders that share the facts "eats minds/thoughts" and "will never change or can not change their diet""

I looked on the front page, but didn't see any summeries (which is fair enough - this quest has a shit ton of lore), so Is the elder brain a thing IC that Viserys knows about (and therefore is confirmed to be in ASWAH?)

My last question is this - apart from the ithillid city that does chronomancy that was mentioned, is there anything we know that might suggest that the ithillid are from the future? (I read that in various other d&D sources, not sure where.)
 
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I would follow you into any fresh hell!

Except the Feywild.
 
What's the deal with Jon Snow in this quest? He got a couple of interludes in the beginning and then nothing since. Dany says she has spoken to him in dreams but, do we know anything about his abilities? He can talk to ghosts or something right?
 
What's the deal with Jon Snow in this quest? He got a couple of interludes in the beginning and then nothing since. Dany says she has spoken to him in dreams but, do we know anything about his abilities? He can talk to ghosts or something right?
He is a Dread Necromancer/ Spirit Shaman hybrid class with the ghost of his mother as companion.

Mechanically great, personally annoying.
 
Semi-related, in ASWAH, Would someone mind telling me if the following is correct? "Mindflayers are basically a cabal or group of far outsiders that share the facts "eats minds/thoughts" and "will never change or can not change their diet""

Aboleth don't need to eat humans or brains as far as we know.

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Adhoc vote count started by Deliste on Apr 8, 2019 at 1:26 AM, finished with 120 posts and 6 votes.

  • [X] Speak with the two fey who were part of the most recently eliminated team—though they may not have won on the sands, you could still find use for their talents
    -[X] Get Oberyn to it, he knows them a bit and since Silore's interest concerns lands he'll govern now this concerns him.

Adhoc vote count started by Deliste on Apr 8, 2019 at 1:26 AM, finished with 120 posts and 7 votes.

  • [X] Speak with the two fey who were part of the most recently eliminated team—though they may not have won on the sands, you could still find use for their talents
    -[X] Get Oberyn to it, he knows them a bit and since Silore's interest concerns lands he'll govern now this concerns him.
 
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So, as someone not familiar with DnD can someone explain why there's such a hate on Krakens or why Krakens are such a big deal?
For me it's more "random encounter at sea", which are just a mixture of;
- Every place is a perfect place for an ambush
- Gargantuan Monsters being able to sneak up on you
- Why would I ever put points in swim or sail?
but looking at the Kraken sheet, 8 attacks at 30ft and 60ft reach with trip and automatic grapple attacks. If you're not beefy MC brawn you're gonna get grappled and even then bad odds. There is also how D&D grapple rules are the worst.

Though now I am morbidly curious about stories of people that actually fought one...

My last question is this - apart from the ithillid city that does chronomancy that was mentioned, is there anything we know that might suggest that the ithillid are from the future? (I read that in various other d&D sources, not sure where.)
I think the original source are the Aboleths who believe that, since "with their memories that predate the gods they don't remember the Illithids". But that's possibly not true in ASWAH since we've seen Aboleths in the Illithid fortress, which hints at an Aboleth/Illithid alliance or the Illithids controlling an Aboleth. Speaking of, the Illithids having access to Aboleth memories would be amazingly problematic.
 
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For me it's more "random encounter at sea", which are just a mixture of;
- Every place is a perfect place for an ambush
- Gargantuan Monsters being able to sneak up on you
- Why would I ever put points in swim or sail?
but looking at the Kraken sheet, 8 attacks at 30ft and 60ft reach with trip and automatic grapple attacks. If you're not beefy MC brawn you're gonna get grappled and even then bad odds. There is also how D&D grapple rules are the worst.

Though now I am morbidly curious about stories of people that actually fought one...
I know of several fisherman who spearfish large octopus and squid. And one where the giant squid won one day and they found his body with tentacle marks and one severed tentacle in his hand
 
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Proceeds of a heinous crime.

Most of them are just the proceeds of general bad lordship and mismanagement as she squeezed the peasants dry, but yes you could make the argument that continuing to take advantage of said proceeds makes her a bad person , it just pales in comparisons to Jorah who was the one holding the reigns of not just the relationship but Lynesse's life.

While Viserys is markedly for women having as much agency, and thus as much responsibility, as men he knows that was simply not the case in Lynesse's case. She was alone, a stranger in a strange land and no one but her husband seemingly liked her . Yes, it would have been admirable for her to knuckle down and make something productive of her life instead of trying to scramble for some scrap of the familiar. However failing to do that does not make her near as culpable as Jorah in Viserys' eyes because Jorah was the one trained to rule, he was the one oaths were sworn to, he was the one who decided selling slaves was the best way to get his hands on gold. For Viserys Targaryen, merchant prince of Braavos that just adds a whole new layer of contempt to his feelings, since he can think of far better ones.
 
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Most of them are just the proceeds of general bad lordship and mismanagement as she squeezed the peasants dry, but yes you could make the argument that continuing to take advantage of said proceeds makes her a bad person , it just pales in comparisons to Jorah who was the one holding the reigns of not just the relationship but Lynesse's life.

While Viserys is markedly for women having as much agency, and thus as much responsibility, as men he knows that was simply not the case in Lynesse's case. She was alone, a stranger in a strange land and no one but her husband seemingly liked her . Yes, it would have been admirable for her to knuckle down and make something productive of her life instead of trying to scramble for some scrap of the familiar. However failing to do that does not make her near as culpable as Jorah in Viserys' eyes because Jorah was the one trained to rule, he was the one oaths were sworn to, he was the one who decided selling slaves was the best way to get his hands on gold. For Viserys Targaryen, merchant prince of Braavos that just adds a whole new layer of contempt to his feelings, since he can think of far better ones.

I think there are a lot of reasons why Mormonts developing even a small fleet isn't tenable. They have the timber for it, could acquire shipwrights, but maintaining ships costs a lot of money, and they don't have diverse enough resources to make long journeys profitable. The Manderlys have the advantage of being able to very quickly sail a limited number of raw resources, diversify their cargo with it while at port, and then make a tidy profit off of it.

Even reputation isn't a limiting factor for the Mormonts here, unlike the Manderlys, because of how isolated they are and how their neighbors would applaud and stomp their feet if there was two or three or five more ships between them and Ironborn raiders, and wouldn't pause to think about bears dirtying their hands by tending cargo.

That's all a rather reductive line of reasoning though... the smarter thing to do would be not to marry someone who's aspirations are grander than surviving through winter with a fire constantly burning in the hearth.
 
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