A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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It was the Pleasure Devil we just summoned, not an Uniila.
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Goldfish
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5,040 IM
Just because they have to send convoys there to drop off large numbers of slaves or collect processed or doesn't mean they can't Teleport strike teams to take the mine back.
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- Germany
It would indeed be very easy for them to attack it without strong Teleportation wards. However, that goes in both directions and the mine would also be easy to attack for the Djinn and Shaitan.
Therefore, the thing is quite definitely warded against teleportation effects.
Goldfish
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They can just Telepor a thousand feet from the edge of the wards. Enemy real estate in the Plane of Fire is too hot for us to hold right now.
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- Germany
My plan was to rope the Djinn and Shaitan into helping us defend it in return for a chunk of the production.
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- Goose Land
Strategic asset removal, plus moral victory for freeing slaves, plus making a killbox/entrenched position that the CoB will need to send troops to try to recover due to its placement.
It's like a combination of our Living Brass Trap and our City of Brass Intrigue in miniature! Think of the profits!
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I'm a fan. Getting access to constant output of adamantium would be incredible.
Goldfish
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I would rather steal everything of value, relocate the slaves, and ruin the mine. The Efreeti could reopen it and restock it with slaves, of course, but then we could hit it again. Even a short spoiling attacks with a few SotD thrown around while Rina drops some icy doom in the area would be suitably devastating. Rather than tying up our forces and those of our allies, the Efreeti would need to station more personnel at the mine to protect it from followup raids, or abandon it. Either way, we win, and for minimal investment.
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- United States
It's probably not viable to defend that mine just yet. Amrelath has yet to establish himself in the Plane of Fire since he's still looking around for his own party, and honestly I don't think the Shaitan and Djinn would agree it's a good use of their armies considering they already have their own sources of Adamantine. I'd like to wait and hope the Efreeti rebuild the mine, and then rob it all over again.
When Amrelath does have a strong presence in the Plane of Fire, this becomes a lot more doable.
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- Australia
Though this raises the question why Valaena and others could abuse magic in the Melee Tournament, to the point of victory at that.
I'd be salty as hell to see the exact same routine that beat me put forth in the mage event.
But I'm quite behind and likely this has changed again.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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I would say no weapons, if only because the Mage competition is supposed to cleave to somewhat formalized dueling conduct that Teana and her teachers were putting together.
Generally speaking there are things that you don't do in fencing (or really any formal combat) for example that you wouldn't bother following in a real fight. In this case that means no tossing glitterdust in an opponent's face and then jumping them like some street thug on west end and feeding them a dozen knuckle sandwiches while they're dazzled.
Edit: Actually, ignore me. That sounds hilarious.
Generally speaking there are things that you don't do in fencing (or really any formal combat) for example that you wouldn't bother following in a real fight. In this case that means no tossing glitterdust in an opponent's face and then jumping them like some street thug on west end and feeding them a dozen knuckle sandwiches while they're dazzled.
Edit: Actually, ignore me. That sounds hilarious.
Goldfish
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Valaena could actually represent herself fairly well without ever drawing a weapon in the mage duels.
Here's her spell list, and it's not even up to day, because I haven't applied her most recent level up to her character sheet yet.
Spells Known (Caster Level 7):
Level 0: Daze, Detect Magic, Light, Mage Hand, Message, Read Magic (4/day)
Level 1: Blade Tutor's Spirit, Burning Grasp*, Magic Missile(RotF), Nerveskitter, Ray of Enfeeblement, Rhino's Rush, Shield (5/day)
Level 2: Combust, Mirror Image, Stone Discus, Wraithstrike (4/day)
Level 3: Dispel Magic, Dragon's Hide, Fireball(RotF) (2/day)
Lots of ranged options and effective buff spells there, and she's also going to have Displacement as soon as I update her sheet.
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- Australia
@DragonParadox is that how our shadow is being treated?
I thought it was used in some transientanner, hence the soul/xp growing back.
If our shadow really is out and about we need to retrieve it to guard ourselves from sympathetic magic.
People were worried about a scale in a fanatically loyal supermoon, I think it being in the possession of a Fey that could get ganked, bribed or decide to trade it at any moment is a little worse.
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Yeah, if our shadow can be used against us we probably need to hunt it down. But that is an if, nothing has been confirmed.
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- Germany
While this would be easy, we would lose the chance to gain a control of a steady source of Adamantine. As far as Planetos is concerned, this mine would basically make us infinitely rich and give us a chance to diversify the backing of our currency. That is all in addition to the obvious military applications, like outfitting the entire Legion in Adamantine gear.
The extra effort necessary to hold the place would be massively beneficial to us and unlike other territory in the PoF, we would have a shot at gaining support from our allies in holding it, since it's both a nice staging ground and a source of urgently needed war material for them.
I'm not sure what you expect Amrelath to do that would make it more viable to defend the place. He can't hold territory on his lonesome, no matter what, and I doubt that any polities will immediately roll over for him.
The other issue with involving him is that he would expect a massive share of the mine for his help and thus gain a lot of economic leverage over us. This is entirely unacceptable. It makes more sense to conquer the location on our own and paying Amrelath well for being part of the security detail.
As for our allies, they are very much in need of more Adamantine. The Shaitan were running on full war economy before we came in, using everything they've got, and the arrival of the Djinn most likely increased the demand for Adamantine. The PoA isn't exactly a great spot for mining and the Djinn also need to maintain their military.
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- United States
I had zero intention of sharing with Amrelath.
That aside, if you really think the Djinn and Shaitan will go for it, then alright.
Interlude CDXI: Upon a Shield Seen
Upon a Shield Seen
Twenty-Sixth Day of the Eighth Month 293 AC
The Hound had not known what his new duties would be when he decided to take the Dragon King's offer. The guarding part made sense, though. If there was one thing the Targaryens didn't lack for it was enemies, starting with the Stag King and the Old Lion, going down through every damn lord who got the better endof the Rebellion and every pissed-off magister in the Disputed Lands, which seeing as they had freed all the slaves he figured meant every magister, even if some of the bastards were better at keeping their spite behind their teeth. So when his new sworn lady literally flew into the room with news that they would be flying to the Reach to kill devil worshipers he thought he'd misheard her. Sure she was able to turn into a dragon, but it was the size of a bloody cat, and she might know spells but a fight was no place for a little...
"Sandor," she interrupted his thoughts. "I know I did not explain everything. I was expecting to have more time before this business with the Florents. I do have to do this though, for one thing I am the one with the translocation magic. Please trust me when I say that I can handle myself." The dress she had been wearing, or seemed to be wearing at least, shimmered to armor bright as a mirror in the light coming in through the widow. "I did not spend three months figuring out how to move in this thing because I enjoy how it looks," she finished with a wistful smile that fit oddly well on her face.
"Can you turn that armor black?" the Hound asked, still off-balance, not least for being asked instead of just ordered around. "If we're gonna try to kill a lord in his own keep without going through half his armsmen we'll have to get in close."
"That's the beauty of starting on the inside and working your way out," the boy who had followed the princess laughed. "Best way to start a heist."
"We are not going in there to rob anyone, Maelor," she sighed, sounding to all the world like she was the elder of the pair.
"You mean we aren't going to take their books on conjuring?" he asked, glib as a singer on feast day.
The little princess threw him a look that said more clearly than words: "See what I have to deal with?"
Sandor found himself nodding almost instantly. When he discovered that the Viper would be coming with them the knot in his throat loosened a little. She could stay in the back and work magic and they would be hitting the enemy from out of the blue anyway, the best way to start any fight.
***
The first thing that hit Sandor after the nauseating lurch of the spell was the smell, the bitter coppery slaughterhouse reek covered by perfume and some other shit he couldn't name, then the scrape of a chair and the thud of a spear going into flesh... into the lord bent over some scribbling at his table.
He was trying to shout something, but as Sandor himself had so recently discovered it was hard to do with the Viper's spear going through your lung, not that he had the chance to try for much longer. The Hound's heavy sword smashed into his spine, then as the boy threw some sort of witchy shadow at him, the heavy black sword cut his head clean off neat as old Ilyn had ever done it.
"Well he ain't answering any questions about pages..."
The words trailed off as the princess picked up the bloody head by its hair set it on the table and said: "You would be surprised how talkative the dead can be under the right circumstances." Eyes flicking towards the door of the windowless and likely secret room she added, "Watch that while I work. There shouldn't be any visitors according to the signs, but divination isn't perfect."
Catching Sandor's face she added, "I would have preferred to take him alive, too, but he had some means to call for help magically which could have ruined the whole mission..."
"And here it is," the other kid, Maelor, patted down the corpse's pockets with an air of experience, picking out what looked like a perfectly normal gold dragon to Sandor... then he waved his hands over it, mumbling something, and a leering devil's face showed in place of the face of whichever king should have been on it.
"What the fuck is going on?" Sandor thought, shaking himself.
"We are winning the war, and a few others most people don't know are in the winds," the Dornishman said. "No, I didn't read your thoughts, just your face."
Hearing the word face Sandor lifted his hand to his cheek instinctively, feeling a familiar jolt of surprise when it only touched smooth skin and nothing hurt.
"Can you get that to work?" The princess had been paying little mind to their byplay, instead looking at the coin.
The boy thought about it a long moment. "Yeah, I think I can," he finally replied with a nod, dipping his hands in the corpse's blood before starting whispering to it, sounding to all the world as though he was trying to sweet-talk it, though not in a tongue Sandor knew or even wanted to.
"I'll take the left side of the door, you take the right," the Viper said, stepping up to do just that.
Once all the questions had been torn from dead lips the boy started using the coin, the gold glowing sickly yellow amid the drying blood. What followed wasn't a fight, it was butchery as man after man came in alone and unsuspecting right into their weapons and the strange coiling shadows that seemed to grasp and strangle... until what had seemed to be just another footman, the fourth one, changed before their eyes, not seeming to care for the spear driven into him or the sword cutting into his shoulder. Thorns sprouted and tore through his clothes, eyes glowing vicious gold as its voice seemed to reach out into Sandor's head: "What did you do here, maggots? I will enjoy..."
Quicker than she had any right to be, the princess darted forward and pressed her hand into the spikes with a single word that cut the air like a knife. The thing didn't even scream, it just fell apart into a grey pile of dust small enough to hold in two cupped hands.
"It seems like they have been getting more help since we have first learned of them," the girl said, shaking the drops of blood off her hand in an almost cat-like gesture as the flesh knitted back together. "Alright, now let's get Ser Erren so he can see his son safe," the added as the boy started tossing battered and now slightly blood-soaked books into his magic bag.
When the princess had said the fight would be too dangerous for a trained fighter like the Florent but not for her, Sandor had to bite his tongue against the foolishness. Not so foolish after all, is it? Sandor thought, strangely proud of his uncanny little liege lady, even if he didn't really understand her yet.
OOC: The part with the blood and the whispers is just how I fluffed Maelor's UMD check. I don't usually linger on that since most of the PoVs are from people used to magic, but Sandor certainly focused on the details.
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Goldfish
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If the Adamantine mine is worth taking, it's worth taking properly. Not only would we need to invest heavily in defending it, but we would need assistance from the Djinni, Shaitan, and Salamanders. We have a lot of personal power, and our Companions are all quite deadly, but that isn't enough to occupy and defend the mine.
Rather than using the Planar Adaptation spell, which doesn't have the necessary duration to make a large scale military occupation practical, we should instead use Attune Form. It's only 3rd level as a Cleric spell, so a command activated item would cost 2700 IM. Every human present would need to reapply the spell each day, but that's better than needing to have Planar Adaptation applied to them three times per day.
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- Germany
Don't worry, if we actually try to hold that place, I want to go all out and prepare it against full-scale assault. It will cost a lot of money and effort, but at the same time, it brings us a lot of money and valuable material.
Having a fully functional and profitable Adamantine mine is more then worth the investment.
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- washington
I wonder what sandors going to be thinking about our plans to basically conquer westeros and secure our position in about a week.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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Maelor, pretending to do magic: "Come on, my pretty, glint shiny for me."
Dany: "What are you doing?"
Maelor: "Magic!"
Dany: "That is not magic."
Maelor, shrugging and gesturing at the third devil piled on top of the other bodies: "Fooled them."
Goldfish
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Are we going to do it this coming month? If so, I need to know in order to get the necessary equipment crafted. We also need to begin making arrangements with our allies ASAP.
I think a significant Legion Artillery presence would be helpful, too. They have serious ranged capability, which we can further augment with Alchemical munitions.
We should go all out, if we're going to do it at all; Wyvern air patrols,Herald or maybe even Harbinger assistance, swarms of Elemental Wyrmlings, etc.