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Victoria Falls: A Post-Collapse American Nation Quest [Down With Victoria!]

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[x][IDEALS] Socialist
[x][CRUSH] None. This is a democracy. If your ideology cannot make its case to the people in practice, it deserves to fail.
[x][TEXT] The Constitution was utterly bereft of any kind of legal, political, or ethical merit and shall be cast into the trash heap of history where it belongs. We shall start anew from a blank slate.
[x][REVIEW] The new Constitution should be put to review and possible revision every thirty years.
 
BoredStudent1414 said:
I express some mild irritation at the casual disregard and dismissive attitudes of American tradition displayed here at times and I fear it making finding some potential allies a bit harder. I do find the idea of people calling the New Capitalism the radical option quite amusing when many here are voting communist. It is good in my opinion that we are not entrenching economic philosophy and policies into a constitution. Economic policies are not the domain of constitutions and the voters should be free to change economic policies in elections to match the times. What is good economic policy today may not be good policy ten years from now.

We may end up writing a new constitution if and once the country is reunited to allow the much larger population to express their views instead of using the constitution we are about write that was written by the left wing dominant Chicago area. This constitution is not the end, it is the beginning after all.

My thoughts on flags, No ideological symbols or party icons on the flags. So no red stars, black cats, donkeys or elephants. I dislike the ROC's flag for that reason. It should be simple enough for a child to have some hope of drawing it. If we use red, white, or blue, it should be in the shade used in the Stars and Stripes. The Stars and Bars design is too Confederate for my tastes. No words on the flag. Remember we are planning to represent a worthy American successor and not the Chicago commune or Chicago state.
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Did you miss the run-down on the setting?

Capitalism and "American tradition" are what got the country into this mess in the first place. I have a hard time buying that the people of this world would put any stock in those getting them back out.
 
Okay, one last flag...

Q: So, this particular variation of the Phoenix Banner is certainly unusual. Where did the design come from?

A: Well, the phoenix was getting more and more popular as the Convention rolled on, and I found this one in a bunch of old, old media files somebody had donated to the university library way back when. It's basically a phoenix redone for the fantasy world in the show, and honestly? I just thought it worked better as a symbol than the wiggly phoenixes that everybody else was slapping on bedsheets. So I submitted it to the flag committee and, well... here we are.

 
Rat King said:
I kinda like the idea of still having fifty stars or whatever to represent the fact that we're gonna TAKE EM BACK.
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Reminds me of the PSA or Sacramento Provisional Federal Government in Kaiserreich using the American Naval Canton Jack flag to show they consider themselves the US and not a secessionist state.

The Templin Institute believes the tracking progress flag designs like the American flag or the Martian Congressional Republic flag is a bad idea. What if you lose progress or territory? But it certainly has an useful propaganda value.
 
Mal-3 said:
Okay, one last flag...

Q: So, this particular variation of the Phoenix Banner is certainly unusual. Where did the design come from?

A: Well, the phoenix was getting more and more popular as the Convention rolled on, and I found this one in a bunch of old, old media files somebody had donated to the university library way back when. It's basically a phoenix redone for the fantasy world in the show, and honestly? I just thought it worked better as a symbol than the wiggly phoenixes that everybody else was slapping on bedsheets. So I submitted it to the flag committee and, well... here we are.

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I vote for the Romulan Warbird flag
 
Mal-3 said:
Okay, one last flag...

Q: So, this particular variation of the Phoenix Banner is certainly unusual. Where did the design come from?

A: Well, the phoenix was getting more and more popular as the Convention rolled on, and I found this one in a bunch of old, old media files somebody had donated to the university library way back when. It's basically a phoenix redone for the fantasy world in the show, and honestly? I just thought it worked better as a symbol than the wiggly phoenixes that everybody else was slapping on bedsheets. So I submitted it to the flag committee and, well... here we are.

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Can we see this one with just the circle of stars?
 
Uh, if the votes are still open... here's mine!

[x][IDEALS] Social Democrat: Centered around the idea that it is the state's responsibility to ensure a bare-minimum standard of living, the Social Democrats add to the New Capitalist agenda with a push for a government guarantee of adequate housing, food, and water to all citizens -- itself a fairly titanic task. It remains rooted in the fundamental ideal of private enterprise. The Social Democrats have some interest in the potential of democratized workplaces and are willing to support them in an experimental measure.
[x][CRUSH] None. This is a democracy. If your ideology cannot make its case to the people in practice, it deserves to fail.
[x][POWER] You are a centralized federal state along the lines of the later United States.
[X][TEXT] The Constitution serves as a broad guide for the structure of this document, and many legal concepts integral to it carry through, but it is rewritten from the ground up to serve its new situation rather than simply amending it until it fits.
 
Okay then, time for a tally.
Adhoc vote count started by AKuz on Mar 15, 2019 at 8:54 PM, finished with 2093 posts and 96 votes.
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I do at least like the idea of the founding state of the nation to have influence on the flag. Like the 13 stripes for the 13 colonies.
 
96 people have voted.
Adhoc vote count started by Aranfan on Mar 15, 2019 at 8:55 PM, finished with 2094 posts and 96 votes.
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