A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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- Germany
Once Lya get's root access, this is the first thing we will fix.
[X] Goldfish
- Location
- Australia
See that I would support because the imperial system is dumb, but until then however it's a Goldfish vote because that's how the universe works.
I have American citizenship and visited a little while ago.
"Why do you guys still use an archaic system?"
"It works doesn't it?"
"What's 0.43 of a mile in feet?"
"..."
[X] Plan Doing Proper Time - Goldfish Version
@Goldfish Why no timezones? If we eventually conquer somewhere like Yi-Ti and people are communicating between there and Westeros, while a shared 24 hour clock between the two will help coordinate communications, it'll be very confusing for the people in Westeros to have 12:00 be mid-morning while in Yi-Ti 12:00 is midnight or something. I'm assuming you don't plan to make future Yi-Ti imperial citizens become nocturnal just for Viserys timekeeping convenience.
@Goldfish Why no timezones? If we eventually conquer somewhere like Yi-Ti and people are communicating between there and Westeros, while a shared 24 hour clock between the two will help coordinate communications, it'll be very confusing for the people in Westeros to have 12:00 be mid-morning while in Yi-Ti 12:00 is midnight or something. I'm assuming you don't plan to make future Yi-Ti imperial citizens become nocturnal just for Viserys timekeeping convenience.
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- Germany
What is the difference between the sun rising at 6:00 or at 16:00?
None. The sun rises and the clock shows some numbers.
Yi-Ti can begin their day at 6:00 and SD at 16:00 just fine.
Timezones cause tremendous coordination problems for pretty much no benefit at all. Without them, 16:00 means the same time across the whole realm, which is significantly important with the increasing spread of instant long-range communication. It also neatly works in every location, be it Planetos, the Underdark or the Plane of Fire.
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- Brazil
The point is that it's not really that confusing, because it's a mostly arbitrary thing, and it greatly eases things up.
People will likely note down the difference for practicality, but 16 o'clock being the same thing across the realm is practical.
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- The internet
The idea is that they will get used using the Imperial time, not arrange around it. So while people would still keep whatever sleep cycle is needed for their life, you can tell someone something like "the Yi- Ti office opens at 02:25" and they know immediately when to contact them via brazier for an update.
Whereas with time zones...
Do me a favor. Tell me what time it is in say... Irkutsk right now, without a search engine.
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- Location
- Germany
You don't really need to note down the difference for any reason.
Practical Example:
I want to talk with a company in Florida and need to schedule a meeting. They tell me to call at 17:00. Now I need to translate that into my local time. So I look up the time zones. Florida is UTC -5, while Germany is UTC +1, meaning I'm 6 hours ahead and I would have to call them at 23:00 German time. This is obviously bad for me, so I try to reschedule. They tell me their office times are from 7:00 to 18:00. So now, after some pointless arithmetic, we settle on a compromise at 10:00 Florida time, which is 16:00 German time.
So I call them at 16:00 and reach no one in the conference call and are annoyed that they left me hanging. But slightly over an hour alter, I get email why I didn't show up for the meeting.
Fun Fact: The westernmost part of Florida is actually at UTC -6, so both of us showed up on the "right" time.
No-Timezone Example:
"Let's do the call at 17:00."
"That's in the middle of the night for me. What's you office hours?"
"They are 7:00 to 18:00."
"Then 10:00 or earlier."
"10:00 it is."
"Peachy"
Edit: And don't even get me started on this whole "daylight saving" bullshit.
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Well I would, except I've never even heard of Irkutsk before so without a search engine, I wouldn't even know where it is, never mind what time it is. For all I know, Irkutsk doesn't even exist.
Honestly my main gripe was the idea of forcing everyone close by to shift Sleeping patterns early or later rather than keep to an arbitrary clock that doesn't have smaller numbers in the morning and higher numbers in the evening.
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whats the point of that?
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Well thats a much better reason to invent timezones! Time rates that don't advance concurrently.
- Location
- Germany
I'm... not sure where you got the idea that people are supposed to shift sleeping patterns...Well I would, except I've never even heard of Irkutsk before so without a search engine, I wouldn't even know where it is, never mind what time it is. For all I know, Irkutsk doesn't even exist.
Honestly my main gripe was the idea of forcing everyone close by to shift Sleeping patterns early or later rather than keep to an arbitrary clock that doesn't have smaller numbers in the morning and higher numbers in the evening.
The numbers on the clock or wholly arbitrary.
No, we need to adjust the clock run-time on those planes. A time zone is a fixed offset, but a different temporal flow is a permanent and constant shift.
The clocks would have to go literally at a different pace to remain in sync.
It's the same as with atomic clocks on satellites. You just have to adjust for these changes.
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- United States
First, we're a port city. That alone is plenty reason.
Second, it's a great chance for more imperial symbolism.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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- USA
I now understand.
And from that enlightenment, I feel only nightmarish dread.
NVM. Reading comprehension failure. I should go to sleep. Its nearly 5 in the morning here.
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I remember from Davos' interlude we used magic to bulldoze all the underwater terrain features that make moving larger ships into the port a tricky business that needs a lighthouse to help orientate from.
Now that I can get behind, even if it doesn't actually serve a useful purpose I can think of.
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DS is the worst. There are some amazing quotes mocking it, though. I think the best one was probably "only the white man would cut off the bottom of a blanket, sew it to the top, and call the blanket longer."
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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- USA
@Goldfish @Azel So I was thinking, for air defense, batteries of steam cannons are sub optimal, since they can only reliably hit the more sluggish/slow targets if they're stationary.
But then I thought, AA batteries using quad-Farstrike turrets. They could probably dissuade aerial attackers far more!
Also we need to include Dany having Hallowed administrative buildings as part of our Government checkpoint project.
It would also be nice to know what we can do with our Valyrian Steel legion banners in terms of enchantments, since we haven't really gone out of our way to ward our officers yet. PfE would be great. Technically speaking morning muster blasting entire companies with PfE would be killing two birds with one stone, so mobile PfE tests to root out mental domination or possession would be efficient and of course fit with military routine.
But then I thought, AA batteries using quad-Farstrike turrets. They could probably dissuade aerial attackers far more!
Also we need to include Dany having Hallowed administrative buildings as part of our Government checkpoint project.
It would also be nice to know what we can do with our Valyrian Steel legion banners in terms of enchantments, since we haven't really gone out of our way to ward our officers yet. PfE would be great. Technically speaking morning muster blasting entire companies with PfE would be killing two birds with one stone, so mobile PfE tests to root out mental domination or possession would be efficient and of course fit with military routine.
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- Germany
[X] Azel
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- Brazil
Of course you should note them down.
How else are you supposed to know that scheduling something for 3pm means making that person take your call at 2am?
As long as we don't make it official.
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- The internet
PREACH. Too much of workday today (read as: Any) was cleaning up after someone who didn't account for the upcoming DST this Sunday in their tasks. Whilst having to convert from the clients time (pacific time) to that branches local time (Manilla).
My hatred for all this stuff is strong today.
1. It's in Russia.
2. That's part of the point, without timezones you don't need to know where it is. "What time is it in X place" isn't even a question that comes up, because the answer would be "the same time it is here."
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- Brazil
Seriously tho, officially adding a completely different time standard that is not in any way intuitive to the reader, and likely not native IC, adds a completely superfluous yet potentially pervasive bit of bureocracy to our realm. Dammingly, it's not readily convertible.
Especially when @Goldfish thought up a cheap magical watch that keeps time even in other planes. Tho I do agree with the point someone made that the six second thing being truly literal is kind of weird, I find it cool and ingenious enough to not mind. As long as @DragonParadox fluffs it some, maybe the duration of a particular effect of Prestidigitation at same CL is terribly consistent, or a particular effect can be induced to be so, or a magic circuit or sorts activate the effect with said amazing consistency.
Talon likes to be contrarian, and Germany is showing the flag, but @Duesal what are you even doing there?
@Snowfire will we be seeing Magical!Rolex show up in HT?
Especially when @Goldfish thought up a cheap magical watch that keeps time even in other planes. Tho I do agree with the point someone made that the six second thing being truly literal is kind of weird, I find it cool and ingenious enough to not mind. As long as @DragonParadox fluffs it some, maybe the duration of a particular effect of Prestidigitation at same CL is terribly consistent, or a particular effect can be induced to be so, or a magic circuit or sorts activate the effect with said amazing consistency.
Talon likes to be contrarian, and Germany is showing the flag, but @Duesal what are you even doing there?
@Snowfire will we be seeing Magical!Rolex show up in HT?
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- Location
- Australia
So I live in a state that uses it and the state directly Northerly does not, fun times.
As long as it's all nonsense anyway I'll take my extra daylight hours and be happy for it, there are way bigger problems like people not even agreeing on what business days are regardless of time zones e.g. Dubai is Sunday to Thursday