[X] Blow the Charges and Bury Them!

we should not be afraid! we kill him here as men or we go to the city crying with our mothers because we look at a moustruo and we did not have the balls to face them.

here is the best time to finish it we can lose soldiers but if we escape we can say goodbye to half of our kingdoms and all the civilians who live in the southern part.

the casualties of few soldiers compared to the hundreds of thousands of civilians that will die that we are going along has no comparison and our economy will suffer if this war continues in the long run with the eternal winter going around our kingdom.

think a little you who want to go to the city for fear of losing a few soldiers or money in the long run we will lose more people and a lot more money, if we do not face it and kill it here. in the long run it is much better for our kingdom to finish this here and recover some lost soldiers than to recover a kingdom if we let that between damn "night king" king sombra in our kingdom and then we hide.
 
The knights have not yet been committed to the battle. They are fresh and have suffered no casualties.
Hmm... not taking a side in the vote yet but if our Knights are fresh could we have them perform a rearguard action to buy us more time on our retreat? or maybe commit some lesser troops to it instead?

It seems like a good idea to get as much time as possible if we are going to retreat, though I do have to point out that any troops dedicated to this might end up being brainwashed by Sombra if captured. So its a balancing acted between using our best to get the best result or risking some tired troops failing as sacrificial pawns.
 
[] Blow the charges, Bury them, Then run.
is what I would suggest. Not sure on the wording on blow the charges and run, as it seems to be directing them to blowing the charges more to block/slow the advancing enemy. That is not what we want to do in this situation, we want to inflict maximum casualties, along with a slim possibility at a decapitation strike.

But we also want to retreat, unless we inflict overwhelming casualties (like, less then 3000 left). We are to exhausted, and given how close we are to our supply lines compared to sombra, we can easily recover enough to re-engage with him before he can get re-enforcements, unless he retreats.
 
We need to take down Sombra at some point anyway. This magical winter is gonna wreck our economy in the long run.
 
[X] Blow the Charges and Bury Them!
this is a tough choice, but my gut says to inflict as much damage to him and his army as possible
 
And a siege, wich he probably expected to happen will help us while taking him by suprise and using it won't.

All of that if he doesn't retreat and goes for another round.

Just because he's not expecting our exhausted soldiers to charge headlong into his elites doesn't make it a good idea. It's still risking everything on one battle.
 
We need to take down Sombra at some point anyway. This magical winter is gonna wreck our economy in the long run.

Keep in mind if we commit to this it's going to be a no holds barred bare knuckle cage fight between his forces and ours.

I'll be surprised if any of the knightly orders or elite forces survive let alone the regular troops.

This is two men enter one man leaves at it's most fundamental extreme.

Either we come back victorious or we don't come back at all.
 
And what makes you think that by hiding behind some walls is gonna make this easier on us he could very well have something just for that.
I value rested troops and restocked traps/munitions more than a single trump card (the avalanche).

He MIGHT have something for the walls. He MIGHT have something for the avalanche. He MIGHT have a population big enough to easily replenish his troops. Not knowing what he actually has I decide to see what WE'll have in each case.

And I value the likely advantages of the avalanche below the advantages of rested troops, walls, more traps and artillery.

In my opinion with the avalanche it's a ALL or NOTHING situation. With the siege I think wel'll win, but we'll lose more than with a successful avalanche (and considerably less that with an unsuccessful one)

We have bunch unused knights that are our Elite and are still fresh .
A bunch = about 3300. With only about 800 full fledged knights.

He has 15.000, a dozen hurts-to-look monsters and himself

And they can cover our retreat, dealing with those that will get past the avalanche, allowing us to bring the flamethrowers with us
 
[X] Blow the Charges and Run!: You've destroyed the majority of the enemy force, but your forces are bloodied, exhausted and running low on ammo. And the worst of the enemy assault has yet to come. Blow the charges and have the Knights cover the retreat back to Lanner. You'll finish the enemy off when your forces are well rested and better supplied.
 
Also a reminder that the Yaks are only our nominal allies right now. We are only allowed to give them orders to remove a greater evil.

We have to remember to think beyond this battle. Is it okay to risk it all here when we still need a standing army from incursions from other nations. Is it okay to show how weak the battle would leave us to the Yaks? Or the Changelings?

No, I rather push Sombra to retreat so that we may be prepared to deal with all enemies of the empire, not just him.
 
As the Brave Sir Robin once said:

[X] Blow the Charges and Run!


It's not running away, it's a tactical retreat!

[X] Blow the Charges and Run!: You've destroyed the majority of the enemy force, but your forces are bloodied, exhausted and running low on ammo. And the worst of the enemy assault has yet to come. Blow the charges and have the Knights cover the retreat back to Lanner. You'll finish the enemy off when your forces are well rested and better supplied.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Pittauro on Feb 15, 2019 at 1:13 PM, finished with 120 posts and 47 votes.
 
Why do people choose run we have 3 knights fresh to fight. And this will be the only chance we have against him he underestimated us once we can be sure he will not do it again and we may never see a chance like this again. It has to end now.

We can have the Knightly Orders cover the rear a the general army regroups at that one city.
 
The reason i picked bury over run is that i kinda have doubts that running is possible. As in if sombra will let us run/can we disengage. So its a choice between staying and risking defeat in combat or trying to run and risking the diversion flopping and getting caught with our pants down.
 
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