[X] The Young Scholar: Your son shall spend his days amidst the tomes and scrolls of the Royal library and archives, familiarizing himself with the sciences and the arts, and imbuing him with a head for numbers. +Learning, +Stewardship, -Intrigue

While having our son going our footsteps is good and all i want him to forge his own legacy and not to be in shadows of his father who if everything goes well will pretty much unite Griffonia and make a contact with outside world.
Going Scholar gives him a chance to do something different and forge his own legacy unique to him that says that he isn't Garrick 02 but Gawain .
 
Young scholar doesn't only mean math, he will be learning arts as well. Having his reign kick start Griffon renaissance would be good.
 
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[X] The Young Scholar: Your son shall spend his days amidst the tomes and scrolls of the Royal library and archives, familiarizing himself with the sciences and the arts, and imbuing him with a head for numbers. +Learning, +Stewardship, -Intrigue
 
[X] The Gilded Gryphon: Your son shall follow in your footsteps, learning the intricate and complicated laws of the market, tutored by bankers, burghers, merchants, and other industrious fortune-builders. +Diplomacy, +Stewardship, -Martial

Stewardship is the GOAT trait of ck2.

Young Scholar gets us stewardship as well. Plus the chance to get even more of a boost from genius.

While admittedly it is nice if we could get genius I feel like we'd be forcing the kid to become a genius of hard work, usually when you have these traits show up they'll show up right away much like what our fellow has posted. That said if you don't think him being a genius wouldn't pop up while working on how to do his sums, logistics and also having a glib tongue than you have no idea how difficult it is to supply an army is.

[x] Gilded Griffon

Our son is less than 2 years old. We would not see if he was a genius. This isn't CK2 where we know immediately what congenital traits we got. It will be a few years before we roll for whether he inherited that trait. This gives us both of the best stats to improve chances.
 
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Archival purposes: "Turn 7: Results (posted by QM on Thursday, January 17, 2019)"

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The Front Page as it appeared to me on Friday, January 18, 2019.

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Name: Garrick Golden-Feather

Age: 33

Titles: King of Griffonia, Inheritor of the House of Gryphus

Description: At first glance, you seem like a pretty average example of the Griffon race. Head of an eagle, body of a winged lion, standing perhaps a hair taller than most other quadrupedal species. It's not until one looks closer that they see the things that distinguish you from a crowd. An unmistakably masculine build, a strong, prominent beak, feathers and fur that seem to be perpetually well-groomed, and a pair of piercing amber eyes hiding a fierce intelligence. But you're no peacock, only known for your good looks; your talons are razor sharp, and though you are not as strong as your wife, you are still an apex predator, and your musculature reflects that. Your wife's workout regimen has also improved your physique, cords of taut muscle now visible across your body.


Martial: 9+2+1+1=13

Diplomacy: 14+2+2=18

Stewardship: 13+2=15

Learning: 16+2=18

Intrigue: 11+2=13


  • Trait-Attractive: You are a very handsome fellow. +2 Diplomacy, better spousal relationship
  • Trait-Genius: Smart doesn't even begin to describe you. +2 all skills
  • Trait-Toned: Working out with your wife has done good things for your body. +1 Martial

Inventory:

  • Blade of the King: an ornate and deadly sword you had forged for yourself after being crowned King of Griffonia. +1 Martial
  • Royal Armor: Serving to protect you as well as display your royal status to onlookers, this armor is both durable and aesthetically pleasing.

  • Dragon Egg: an egg recovered from a dead dragon's nest. It's still warm, and could still hatch.






Wife: Gabriella Golden-Feather


Opinion of You: 8/10

Age: 31

Martial: 15+1+2=18
Diplomacy: 11+1=12
Stewardship: 8+1=9
Learning: 13+1=14
Intrigue: 10+1=11

Trait: Strong - Born stronger than most. (+2 Martial)
Trait: Experienced - Has been a mercenary for several years, ranging across the lands of the former Empire. Knows much about the world. (+1 All Stats)



Son: Gawain Golden-Feather


Age: 1

Status: Infant-No Stats
Status: Designated Heir. Will become player character in event of Parent's Deaths.


Informational: State of the Nation (last edited by QM on Tuesday, January 15, 2019)
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Economy

Treasury Reserves
: 2850

Net Income: 2590

Yearly Income: 2900

-Tax Revenue: 1825
-Farming Income: 525
-Mining Income: 450
-Trade Income: 100

Yearly Expenditures: 310

-Army Upkeep: 210
-Navy Upkeep: 100



Military

Royal Army
: Professional soldiers, paid and supplied by you. 500 soldier battalions cost 200 gold each to raise or replace. Additionally, Royal Army soldiers have an upkeep cost of 200 gold per every ten thousand soldiers.

Royal Army Morale: 70/100 (Above Average)

Royal Army Numbers: 11,080

-5000 Warriors: Armed with a sword or hand-axe and shield, these Griffons make up the bulk of your army.

-2700 Polearms: For keeping your enemy at arms length or taking down opponents larger than a Griffon.

-3380 Archers: Griffons with bows and some arrows. Not much else to say.

-5 Mobile Ballistae: Massively oversized mechanical bows that fire bolts big enough to pierce through tree trunks from vast distances.



Knightly Orders (Self Maintained): In the old Empire, Knightly Orders were typically made up of Griffons of noble birth who joined a fraternal militant organization dedicated to martial excellence, honor, and a number of various edicts of moral strength. These great warriors dedicated themselves to the Emperor and the protection of the common Gryph. Tragically, few of these brave souls survived the reign of Discord. But a new breed of Knights now seeks to serve as your sword and shield, and will rally to your banner whenever you may need them.

The Knights Lion
1 Grandmaster Konrad Hardbeak
30 Knights of the Inner Circle
200 Imperial Knights
200 Squires
600 Griffons-at-Arms

Citadel: The Lion's Den, Griffonia



Royal Navy: The vessels that guard your coastlines and patrol the oceans. Crewed by career sailors, they have an upkeep of five gold per ship, per year.

20 Cogs (Bolt-Throwers)



Auxiliaries: Auxiliary units are forces not part of a Knightly Order or the Royal Army and Navy that can be brought into battle alongside both of the former groups. They can be made up of allied nation units suborned to you, units drawn up from the militia, and mercenary outfits.



Politics

Nobility Opinion: 8/10 (Long Live the King).

General Public Opinion: 8/10 (Long Live the King).


Roll Bonuses

Improved Army Communications: +3 on certain Army Rolls
Naval Navigation Tools: +5 on certain Naval and Exploration Rolls


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Diplomatic Relations

Wingbardy: 9/10 (Steadfast Allies)

Feathersian League: 7/10 (Trusted Business Partners)


Persons of Interest

???: A friendly and strangely casual Griffon female you met at your inaugural ball. Despite having a wonderful evening chatting with her, you never got her name.

Federico Montefeathertro: Duke of the City-State of Urbirdo, and your Father-in Law. He might just be the friendliest Feathersian noble alive, having agreed to back you and your kingdom without question or condition, and hiring a mercenary outfit as a belated wedding gift. You're reasonably certain he likes you, as much as In-Laws can like each other anyway.
 
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Pretty sure the QM posted then went to bed. I would wait a little until he updates it some time tomorrow.

Also might there be any chance to get you to vote for the Scholar option since the Jack of all Trades doesn't offer any re-rolls.
 
We are forcing him to follow through our footsteps even though there is possibility that he will never be able to live up to our legacy and be viewed in eyes of the nobility like us but never truly us as in managing to live up to our legacy of uniting the empire as i doubt that it will be needed to be united twice.

Basically by having him follow our footsteps we are having him to live a childhood in our shadows.

If he is successful in his classes Griffons will say " He is just like his father " but he will never be able to live to our heritage.
But even worse is if he is unsuccessful because not everyone have a talent for trade, he will then be looked with hidden disappointment because he isn't able to live up to his fathers legacy and don't be wrong as a heir to the empire he will be observed and judged by the court.

Especially in ancestor based Griffon society.
 
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We are not forcing him to be a genius



We are forcing him to follow through our footsteps even though there is possibility that he will never be able to live up to our legacy and be viewed in eyes of the nobility like us but never truly us as in managing to live up to our legacy of uniting the empire as i doubt that it will be needed to be united twice.

Basically by having hI'm follow our footsteps we are having him to live a childhood in our shadows.

If he is successful in his classes Griffons will say " He is just like his father " but he will never be able to live to our heritage.
But even worse is if he is unsuccessful because not everyone have a talent for trade, he will then be looked with hidden disappointment and don't be wrong growing up as a heir he will be observed by the court.

That's why going our footsteps isn't good option for me, as it doesn't allow our kid to be himself and is condemning him to live in our shadows unless some important event doesn't happen.
What are you talking about? I'm trying to get the young Scholar option taken. Not follow in our footsteps.
 
I was using your post as example that we aren't forcing him to be a genius.
Ah okay got it. Yeah we aren't forcing him to be a genius. We are just giving the dice the best chance to roll for him to inherit the trait. I'm also pretty sure we will get more options later on in development to improve his stats.
 
[X] The Young Scholar: Your son shall spend his days amidst the tomes and scrolls of the Royal library and archives, familiarizing himself with the sciences and the arts, and imbuing him with a head for numbers. +Learning, +Stewardship, -Intrigue
 
Pretty sure the QM posted then went to bed. I would wait a little until he updates it some time tomorrow.

Also might there be any chance to get you to vote for the Scholar option since the Jack of all Trades doesn't offer any re-rolls.
Shouldn't be a problem if I catch the front page info for Turn 8 I mean diplomacy interlude.

Already changed my vote, it was losing. I wanted Jack because it wasn't giving re-rolls. Risky, but great reward if everything rolled high.

My choice is Gilded Gryphon, because Scholar has a negative re-roll on Intrigue, and the Strong trait should help mitigate a low martial for the kid, plus 'attractive' boosting a diplo score? I see Shiny near our grasp.
 
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We could but that is not a likely outcome. We would also get a chance to counteract any illness. Also unless somesort of democracy or Republic forms there is no reason that the title of Republic would have any positive connotations.



Edit that into your old post double posting can get you an infraction.

Okay those are good points. I changed it.
 
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[X] The Young Scholar: Your son shall spend his days amidst the tomes and scrolls of the Royal library and archives, familiarizing himself with the sciences and the arts, and imbuing him with a head for numbers. +Learning, +Stewardship, -Intrigue

Well that spy roll could have gone better but everything else worked.
 
Unfortunately you cannot simply ask her as she, like most of Brochard's advisors, has apparently gone into hiding, and Ravenburg can't seem to locate her.
What he was able to locate was some information on the trolls Brochard used in the Battle of Wingbardy. Some, but not much. While there is plenty of documentation on the capture of the trolls via "normal" means, and of their being measured for and fitted with armor while heavily sedated, there is next to nothing on exactly how the Trolls were conditioned to attack you and not the Aquileians. Brochard's journal contains cryptic references to "a mad scheme that could make or break us", but nothing more.
Ravenburg estimates only a fraction of the treasury was recovered, and confesses that as of now, he has no further leads to pursue.
Yeah, this isn't fishy/worrying at all. We're definatly going to have to keep an eye on this thread because it seems Brochard was at least partially a pasty to something or someone.

[X] The Gilded Gryphon
 
Okay those are good points. I changed it.
Can you change/edit your vote? It isn't being picked up in tally because the [X] isn't at the front of a line.
Adhoc vote count started by Marlin on Jan 18, 2019 at 7:18 AM, finished with 59 posts and 33 votes.
 
[X] The Young Scholar: Your son shall spend his days amidst the tomes and scrolls of the Royal library and archives, familiarizing himself with the sciences and the arts, and imbuing him with a head for numbers. +Learning, +Stewardship, -Intrigue

Also as a side note about Brochard's spymaster, while it might have been a simple case of her just being misinformed from what little evidence we got makes that unlikely. I mean the king dies, the country pretty much surrenders on the spot, and they're Still able to make off with most of the late kings riches before we even reach the capital. Makes it seem like they planned to have their king lose the war and I have to wonder what the end goal was here. Was it to simply make off with Aquileia's treasury or was their more behind it then that? Also have to wonder if she was working alone or if other advisers were in on it as well. I mean they ALL disappeared without a trace so I'm wondering if the spy master helped them disappear or if they just are good at intrigue as well... or just got lucky. Plus what little we were able to find out about their work on the trolls made it seem like this was another adviser's idea so if they are working together I doubt they did all of this just for a chance to swipe some gold.
 
Also as a side note about Brochard's spymaster, while it might have been a simple case of her just being misinformed from what little evidence we got makes that unlikely. I mean the king dies, the country pretty much surrenders on the spot, and they're Still able to make off with most of the late kings riches before we even reach the capital. Makes it seem like they planned to have their king lose the war and I have to wonder what the end goal was here. Was it to simply make off with Aquileia's treasury or was their more behind it then that? Also have to wonder if she was working alone or if other advisers were in on it as well. I mean they ALL disappeared without a trace so I'm wondering if the spy master helped them disappear or if they just are good at intrigue as well... or just got lucky. Plus what little we were able to find out about their work on the trolls made it seem like this was another adviser's idea so if they are working together I doubt they did all of this just for a chance to swipe some gold.

Well i don't know about other advisers but it seems that diplomatic advisor was on it.
Basically if we look at Brochard's behaviour we see a total lack of diplomacy and even actions that were from the looks of it designed to worsen the situation and speed up the war.
When their spymaster misinformed them about secret alliance normally any skilled diplomat would reacted by either contacting Wingbardys to elevate any tensions or Feathersian Leauge to form a counter alliance to using evidence from spymaster as a prof that we are warmongers , even if Brochard had a personality i believe that if willing diplo advisor would had been able to at least stop Brochard from threatening his neighbours and making him look like warmonger. There wasn't even a try to find a suitable marriage partner for possible alliances.
 
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[X] The Gilded Gryphon: Your son shall follow in your footsteps, learning the intricate and complicated laws of the market, tutored by bankers, burghers, merchants, and other industrious fortune-builders. +Diplomacy, +Stewardship, -Martial
 
[X] The Young Scholar: Your son shall spend his days amidst the tomes and scrolls of the Royal library and archives, familiarizing himself with the sciences and the arts, and imbuing him with a head for numbers. +Learning, +Stewardship, -Intrigue
 
[X] The Young Scholar: Your son shall spend his days amidst the tomes and scrolls of the Royal library and archives, familiarizing himself with the sciences and the arts, and imbuing him with a head for numbers. +Learning, +Stewardship, -Intrigue

Also as a side note about Brochard's spymaster, while it might have been a simple case of her just being misinformed from what little evidence we got makes that unlikely. I mean the king dies, the country pretty much surrenders on the spot, and they're Still able to make off with most of the late kings riches before we even reach the capital. Makes it seem like they planned to have their king lose the war and I have to wonder what the end goal was here. Was it to simply make off with Aquileia's treasury or was their more behind it then that? Also have to wonder if she was working alone or if other advisers were in on it as well. I mean they ALL disappeared without a trace so I'm wondering if the spy master helped them disappear or if they just are good at intrigue as well... or just got lucky. Plus what little we were able to find out about their work on the trolls made it seem like this was another adviser's idea so if they are working together I doubt they did all of this just for a chance to swipe some gold.
Well i don't know about other advisers but it seems that diplomatic advisor was on it.
Basically if we look at Brochard's behaviour we see a total lack of diplomacy and even actions that were from the looks of it designed to worsen the situation and speed up the war.
When their spymaster misinformed them about secret alliance normally any skilled diplomat would reacted by either contacting Wingbardys to elevate any tensions or Feathersian Leauge to form a counter alliance to using evidence from spymaster as a prof that we are warmongers , even if Brochard had a personality i believe that if willing diplo advisor would had been able to at least stop Brochard from threatening his neighbours and making him look like warmonger. There wasn't even a try to find a suitable marriage partner for possible alliances.
I have an utter LOL idea.

What if the advisers were trying to find a king that could actually make a united Griffonia stick and then triggered the war in the hopes that their unsuitable, clearly too gullible king goes up in flames before our properly funded war-machine?
The treasure is just them being greedy as an addition. :V


[] The Gilded Gryphon: Your son shall follow in your footsteps, learning the intricate and complicated laws of the market, tutored by bankers, burghers, merchants, and other industrious fortune-builders. +Diplomacy, +Stewardship, -Martial

I would go scholar, but right now our clearest potential adversary is Intrigue-focused. This is not the time to weaken our chances: we have no guarantee this won't be a constant Intrigue war that keeps going for a generation.
 
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???: A friendly and strangely casual Griffon female you met at your inaugural ball. Despite having a wonderful evening chatting with her, you never got her name.

Brochard's Spymaster, an enigmatic female Griffon by the name of Lady Nightingale, informed Brochard that Griffonia and Wingbardy had made a secret alliance against him, and counseled him to launch a preemptive strike while he held numerical superiority. Naturally, no such alliance was ever made, though Ravenburg is uncertain as to whether the Lady Nightingale was simply mistaken or if she had deliberately misled her Liege. Unfortunately you cannot simply ask her as she, like most of Brochard's advisors, has apparently gone into hiding, and Ravenburg can't seem to locate her.
Wait....Is possible that the mysterious Griffon and Brochard's Spymaster are the same Griffon?
 
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I have an utter LOL idea.

What if the advisers were trying to find a king that could actually make a united Griffonia stick and then triggered the war in the hopes that their unsuitable, clearly too gullible king goes up in flames before our properly funded war-machine?
The treasure is just them being greedy as an addition. :V


[X] The Gilded Gryphon: Your son shall follow in your footsteps, learning the intricate and complicated laws of the market, tutored by bankers, burghers, merchants, and other industrious fortune-builders. +Diplomacy, +Stewardship, -Martial

I would go scholar, but right now our clearest potential adversary is Intrigue-focused. This is not the time to weaken our chances: we have no guarantee this won't be a constant Intrigue war that keeps going for a generation.
This is just the very first choice for our son. We will or should be able to chose new training actions later on as he grows. He is less than 2 years old after all.
 
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