Always found it weird that @DragonParadox decided to make a battle caused by pride and greed on bothesides about heroes.

Not bad, but not really fitting.

You seem to be under the impression that it's possible for @DragonParadox to stop Waymar devouring every piece of scenery in sight with the boundless appetite of CHIVALRY!

Unconventional, but I am used to being shut down in far less creative ways.

I always try to be original for you :p
 
Waymar is a virtuous knight, one of a knight's virtues is loyalty. His king (and friend) said: "Help me kill this devil I want to wear its skin for a coat." The devil was certainly not an innocent of the kind Waymar swore to protect so sword to the head it was.
It didn't hurt that he got to look like a badass for Tyene.
 
Waymar is a virtuous knight, one of a knight's virtues is loyalty. His king (and friend) said: "Help me kill this devil I want to wear its skin for a coat." The devil was certainly not an innocent of the kind Waymar swore to protect so sword to the head it was.
I don't disagree.

My point was not that anything Waymar did was wrong or even weird for him.

My point was that it was a strange thematic choice to make Waymar's words and actions on heroes the centerpiece of a chapter that was the result of two people shouting "Mine" at each other and starting a brawl over that claim.
 
I don't disagree.

My point was not that anything Waymar did was wrong or even weird for him.

My point was that it was a strange thematic choice to make Waymar's words and actions on heroes the centerpiece of a chapter that was the result of two people shouting "Mine" at each other and starting a brawl over that claim.

One of those people shouting 'Mine' had friends, the other did not and that is what decided the fight. I focused on Waymar because he was emblematic of why you won and Mammon lost.
 
I don't disagree.

My point was not that anything Waymar did was wrong or even weird for him.

My point was that it was a strange thematic choice to make Waymar's words and actions on heroes the centerpiece of a chapter that was the result of two people shouting "Mine" at each other and starting a brawl over that claim.
I think that was more or less the point.

Mammon comes in facing a group of "heroes" that just want to murder him for xp and loot his corpse, then he goes and finishes one off.

"See, this is what heroes actually do, and their fitting end!"

And then the finished off guy stands back up and goes all

"You know nothing what heroes are like!"



He just missed the following epic confrontation since he was a total chump.
 
Maybe things changed and if DP has since said otherwise before I got to the end of the thread my apologies but it had been made clear that infinite food was a no-go for DP, do not approach the Tippyverse.

It wouldn't be actually infinite food, it'd likely cap out at 500 uses for a maximum of 7500 humans/2500 horses fed a day per each location. Enough to feed a maximum capacity Watch, their horses, and any guests that don't need the Fancy Food brought out. It's just written as unlimited uses because it's more economical to have "unlimited" uses than it is to have 500 uses. We'd likely tie the magic item effect to a section of the Larder itself so it's not really stealable.

@DragonParadox does the above have your approval, in both the "remove the Watch's nutritional concerns via magic items of food making" bit and the "enchanting the Castle Larders themselves as the focus for the magic rather than some random magic box, for both thematic reasons as well as security reasons" bit?
 
It wouldn't be actually infinite food, it'd likely cap out at 500 uses for a maximum of 7500 humans/2500 horses fed a day per each location. Enough to feed a maximum capacity Watch, their horses, and any guests that don't need the Fancy Food brought out. It's just written as unlimited uses because it's more economical to have "unlimited" uses than it is to have 500 uses. We'd likely tie the magic item effect to a section of the Larder itself so it's not really stealable.

@DragonParadox would magicking the larders of Wall Castles be valid targets for Runecrafting? Also, does the above have your approval, in both the "remove the Watch's nutritional concerns via magic items of food making" bit and the "enchanting the Castle Larders themselves as the focus for the magic rather than some random magic box, for both thematic reasons as well as security reasons" bit?

I'm thematically opposed to magically creating large amounts of food like that. It does weird things to the world-building.
 
600 per month. Huh. Our professors are better paid, and our universitary education is free.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but our country is wonderful in that regard.
Ever went to the academic center? All that money squandered and most people are wasting their time either smoking pot or snorting coke, staying in the university for free for nearly ten years when the course only takes four.

There are upsides and downsides to everything.
 
I'm thematically opposed to magically creating large amounts of food like that. It does weird things to the world-building.

That's fair. I don't suppose making it massively more expensive by requiring Heroes Feast (SL6) and CL15 instead of SL3 and CL5 for the Create Food and Water effect would be acceptable, making it 6 times more expensive (for the same value of 15 people's worth of food per casting)? If not that, how would putting an upper limit of 10 uses per day work in addition to the previous? That way it's a matter of being incredibly expensive and therefore impractical for it to happen on any large scale. For example, under the above changes it would cost 4,860,000IM (6(SL)x15(CL)x1800(command activated,10/day)x2(10/5 daily charge formula)x.5(crafting cost)x.2(gold to IM conversion)x150(total number of meal boxes)) to outfit the Watch with 1500 human's worth of food daily (or 1000 humans and 33 horses) out of magic items. It would then cost 92,340,000IM to outfit every Night's Watch Castle with enough magic to remove their basic nutritional and water concerns, or 14,580,000IM to cover the three Castles currently in use.

Otherwise I suppose Plan "Repopulate the Gift and the New Gift and slap Plant Growth spells on all the farmlands possible" will have to do for now.
 
Otherwise I suppose Plan "Repopulate the Gift and the New Gift and slap Plant Growth spells on all the farmlands possible" will have to do for now.
This plan will do fine, we've literally just commissioned dozens of Advanced Druid Creature Lotus Leshys who can cast druid spells up to level 3. A chunk of them can be shipped to the Watch and spam Plant Growth and make the grounds fertile for any settlers.
 
Ever went to the academic center? All that money squandered and most people are wasting their time either smoking pot or snorting coke, staying in the university for free for nearly ten years when the course only takes four.

There are upsides and downsides to everything.

Oh, but the ones that do that barely occupy any actual seats, and so they aren't counted when deciding how many teachers you hire.

Yeah, there are a lot who do that, but the market doesn't really welcome those guys.

Or you mean staying in as in the university providing accomodation for you? That doesn't happen here, not even in the private sector. You manage how you eat and how you sleep. The state only provides education.
 
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