It's a bad plan, it hinges on information we have no real hint about, and on them buying it in the first place. The Lord is an avowed loyalist.

You are assuming there's no formal or at least informal agreement the Lannisters the Citadel. Or that a Golden Shield Mage would be allowed to antagonize it just like that.
We have hard evidence of the Citadel and the Golden Shields working against each other.

Other then that, they have no hard evidence against this, so I'm seriously not getting why you assume they will automatically deduce that Tiserys Vargaryen is behind this.
 
It's a bad plan, it hinges on information we have no real hint about, and on them buying it in the first place. The Lord is an avowed loyalist.

You are assuming there's no formal or at least informal agreement the Lannisters the Citadel. Or that a Golden Shield Mage would be allowed to antagonize it just like that.
It's our lack of information in Westeros hurting us once again. We really need a spymaster. Still, I don't think that this plan has anything too egregious to trip over, and in the end they almost certainly don't know it's us.

[X] Azel
 
23 pages between the first update of yesterday and today's.

It's a bad plan, it hinges on information we have no real hint about, and on them buying it in the first place. The Lord is an avowed loyalist.

You are assuming there's no formal or at least informal agreement the Lannisters the Citadel. Or that a Golden Shield Mage would be allowed to antagonize it just like that.

There's enough reasonable doubt in the plan that the Maesters are unlikely to believe that their agent who sent this message and isn't using "I'm under compulsion" keywords is straight up lying to them.

They could use some sort of Divination to make sure that he's not under compulsion strong enough to prevent compulsion keywords, except this is specifically the Anti-Magic Faction so they are fairly unlikely to want to check using magic.

All in all, the plan serves our purposes for going to the next target up the food chain.

[X] Azel
 
With our new upgrade and Superior Invisibility we could be hovering right above the Maester in our True Dragon form, just a few feet, and nobody would notice us until it's too late.
"Dragon V is now uncloaking"
 
Vote closed. the update is going to be somewhat slow in coming though on account of even more Christmas commitments.
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Dec 26, 2018 at 9:49 AM, finished with 257887 posts and 12 votes.

  • [X] Sorcerer's Deep, the better to aid the growth of the capital
    [X] Deal with the Maester
    -[X] He will send a message to the Citadel that he was found out. Lord Brune was meeting with a member of the Golden Shields that healed him and now they are plotting his murder.
    -[X] He will ask for a pick-up at a safe location and Viserys will accompany him under Superior Invisibility.
    -[X] Ambush and capture who or what ever they send.
    [X] Deal with the Maester once and for all
    -[X] Swift death or joining the Black, your choice.
    -[X] Remove Mark of Justice after either decision.
    [X] Ask about what the Pointsmen had found at the Whispers
    [X] Sorcerer's Deep, the better to aid the growth of the capital
    [X] Ask about what the Pointsmen had found at the Whispers
    [X] Deal with the Maester once and for all
    -[X] Use Memory Moss and cast Modify Memory on him as many times as necessary to remove all of his memories pertaining to us or Lord Brune's discovery of his treachery, then plant a false memory of being captured by a Deep One raiding party before being Dominated and forced to return to the Citadel.
    --[X] Load him down with as many Explosive Packs and vials of Alchemist's Fire as he can carry (augmenting his Strength with a Bull's Strength if necessary), Teleport him to Old Town as near to the Citadel as possible, cast Unconscious Agenda to compel him to seek out the highest ranking Maester as he can find before detonating his payload, then cast Expeditious Retreat and Superior Invisibility on him.
 
You send back wordless agreement, not wishing to tempt fate by sharing the thought that had first come to mind. Perhaps the Watch's time will end with next winter's passing.
So Viserys is straight-up thinking of killing the Great Other, right?
Ballsy. Even the thread hadn't explicitly said it much.
We'll do better than the Last Hero!
 
So Viserys is straight-up thinking of killing the Great Other, right?
Ballsy. Even the thread hadn't explicitly said it much.
We'll do better than the Last Hero!
I just want to pillage the Lands of Always Winter.
"What is the realm of the Others?" you quickly change the subject. "What rules does it follow and what precisely dwells within?"

"Were you to travel by foot north from this cave you would find forests thinning to cold brushland and hardy grasses, to lichen-covered stone, and finally to bare rock and crushing ice. Were you then to press on against every instinct of mind and soul you would find yourself in a realm that is both part of the world and yet heavy with the hateful dreams of the thing the priests of R'hllor call the Great Others. Whether it is one thing or many, or even if such distinctions matter to it I cannot say, but there have been some bold enough to make the journey in the past and fortunate enough to return. Thus I can share with you some advice on how you may survive there."

"I'm not planning a journey anytime soon," you assure him.

Bloodraven nods in acknowledgement but continues in the same even half-whisper he uses to spare his ravaged voice: "Light no fires upon the ice, but scrape first to stone beneath. Drink no water from the icefields that has not been brought to a rolling boil thrice. Do not run over those cursed fields without a weirwood staff to guide your path by striking holes through the ice to see if there is solid ground, raging water, or lightless caverns beneath "

"No lesser staff?" you question. "Was that the reason for this..." you motion towards the token of your pledge to the Old Gods.

"One of the reasons," he replies. "Not the first in my mind, but certainly not the last."

"What might one find in the Farthest North in the dreams of the Other?" you ask rather than questioning what his other motives may be.

"There are said to be cities half buried in the ice where the dead walk, going about the hollow half-understood motions of life, cliffs upon which the wind wails like the screams of the dying, and the damned vaults filled the treasures of the Dawn Age guarded by great wyrms of ice. How far the ice goes or what lies beyond it none know, for no living traveler has reached the end of it."

"If it is a dream then perhaps it has no end," you offer.

"Half a dream, and the world we stand on is a bounded sphere as the sages of old discovered long ago," Bloodraven replies gravely. "For all the dreadful power of the Enemy it would not do to forget that this is now the world of men and what mortal wisdom tells us of it."
The ancient relics of the Dawn Age shall be ours.

As shall more Frost Dragon corpses.
 
The matter settled, you and Dany take to the sky for your morning flight on wings of silver and crimson... much more nimble wings in your case, thanks to some of the scrolls you had bought in the Opaline Vault, the blessings now woven into blood and bone.
I love that we take daily flights with Dany, presumably with the our friends and family joining in from time to time. It's also great that our citizens are so used to us now.

Just a few more months and Dawnfyre might be big enough for Valaena to ride... though I'd still give her an item of Featherfall as a precautionary measure.
 
I love that we take daily flights with Dany, presumably with the our friends and family joining in from time to time. It's also great that our citizens are so used to us now.

Just a few more months and Dawnfyre might be big enough for Valaena to ride... though I'd still give her an item of Featherfall as a precautionary measure.
Ring of Four Winds would be a nice Emperor's Day gift.
 
So Viserys is straight-up thinking of killing the Great Other, right?
Ballsy. Even the thread hadn't explicitly said it much.
We'll do better than the Last Hero!
I don't think there is a Great Other, so much as there's a hivemind of Others that together have godly powers, that also match with them mirroring the old gods, so we are planning to kill them all, but it wont be in 1 grand battle, it will be in a long run of skirmishes, lessening them until we kill the last of them.
 
I don't think there is a Great Other, so much as there's a hivemind of Others that together have godly powers, that also match with them mirroring the old gods, so we are planning to kill them all, but it wont be in 1 grand battle, it will be in a long run of skirmishes, lessening them until we kill the last of them.
This sounds time-consuming.
Let's just kill them all at once in a single massive battle, yeah?

:p
/jk

More seriously, good point.
 
I don't think there is a Great Other, so much as there's a hivemind of Others that together have godly powers, that also match with them mirroring the old gods, so we are planning to kill them all, but it wont be in 1 grand battle, it will be in a long run of skirmishes, lessening them until we kill the last of them.
Seems likely.

Viserys mentioned that the eldest Dragons have at times fought them, when he got a glimpse after defeating the Volantine Cleric.

Edit: Main issue is not beating them but truly killing them though. Being unable to die is kinda their biggest problem and so they make it ours.
 
There's enough reasonable doubt in the plan that the Maesters are unlikely to believe that their agent who sent this message and isn't using "I'm under compulsion" keywords is straight up lying to them.

They could use some sort of Divination to make sure that he's not under compulsion strong enough to prevent compulsion keywords, except this is specifically the Anti-Magic Faction so they are fairly unlikely to want to check using magic.

All in all, the plan serves our purposes for going to the next target up the food chain.

[X] Azel

I don't know how it is in this quest in particular as I haven't caught up yet so I could be wrong, but I was always under the understanding that that anti-magic faction of the citadel wasn't even close to the whole thing, and among other members there are indeed those who actually study magic?

I'm probably wrong here, just figured I'd double check.
 
I don't know how it is in this quest in particular as I haven't caught up yet so I could be wrong, but I was always under the understanding that that anti-magic faction of the citadel wasn't even close to the whole thing, and among other members there are indeed those who actually study magic?

I'm probably wrong here, just figured I'd double check.
You are right there's factions like that, but we don't think they are working together. The majority (or the most powerful anyways) is as far as we know the anti-magic group, and though they do have rituals and knowledge at their disposal, their ability is limited to those and they can't expand it much without violating the rules they operate under.
 
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I don't know how it is in this quest in particular as I haven't caught up yet so I could be wrong, but I was always under the understanding that that anti-magic faction of the citadel wasn't even close to the whole thing, and among other members there are indeed those who actually study magic?

I'm probably wrong here, just figured I'd double check.
The other factions are mostly irrelevant. The only ones we're paying attention to are the anti-magic ones.
 
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